Saw it last night, brilliant movie! Superb acting and excellent screenplay - its all about the MUSIC. It's so good i wanted to leap out of my chair and dance down the aisles!
There's more to it than the story of NWA though, its funny, witty and very moving. Don't miss it!
I thought they were calling him Q for ages until i finally realized it was Cube, I was like who the hell is Q? Then i was like thats Cube!!! Fuck off. That skinny little pretty boy is meant to be Cube. Get real.
I thought they were calling him Q for ages until i finally realized it was Cube, I was like who the hell is Q? Then i was like thats Cube!!! Fuck off. That skinny little pretty boy is meant to be Cube. Get real.
Are you mad??? I recognised it as Cube immediately and thought, 'how the fuck did they find someone who looks so like him? Only found out after, but thats his son who is the image of him!!! And a great actor. He aint skinny??? Do you mean the fella playing Snoop?? I didnt think that dude was perfect^^
I agree that Cube Jnr is a paler, prettier version for sho.' But come on, no one can live up to the real thing!! i saw Cube in 1994 in Dublin (and little boy too, whom he brought on stage and the toddler shouted 'Fuck the police!' to the screaming audience). Great show!
fave cube tune ever. If ever I've had a long day when everything has been hectic but OK and I've won, this beast gets a spin as I skin up a victory spliff:
Did enjoy this film: first half was electrifying, with great concert scenes and drama, but I did feel that the second half dragged; I would have liked more on the band's cultural impact as well as more on the LA riots than all the wrangling over money. Still, great fun, though...
Did enjoy this film: first half was electrifying, with great concert scenes and drama, but I did feel that the second half dragged; I would have liked more on the band's cultural impact as well as more on the LA riots than all the wrangling over money. Still, great fun, though...
Went to see this yesterday and really enjoyed it - Id lowered my expectations but as cheesey says the script was tight and the acting was genuinely excellent. Definitely its an airbrushed telling, and theres a lot of disputed politics within it (and beyond it), but the NWA story is an amazing one, not least as Dre almost single handedly took rap to the heights of becoming the dominant sound in the USA, knocking rock off the top spot - shame it was via Gangsta Rap, but there you go...
Sure, theres a more warts and all story out there that could be told, but the film does a good job of setting out the story arc and I think its up to the viewers to fill in some of the more explicit and fucked up things that must've happened.
I had Straight Outta Compton, Above the Law (the next LP to come out on Ruthless) and the first solo Ice Cube record (Amerikkkas Most Wanted), but I didnt really know anything about the backgrounds of the people involved.... and so for me the most interesting part of the story was finding out about the early years, but particularly the role of Eazy E.
To me Eazy always came across as a poor rapper, he was the only one of NWA to have jheri curls (making him look a little out of place), his solo material wasnt good, Id vaguely heard about some dodgey stuff he got up to and said - not least on his own lyrics - and to me I always thought of him as a weak link in the band....
...whereas in fact Eazy was the lynchpin in everything: not only was it his drug money that funded the project, and then went on to manage the whole project and label, but also of all of NWA he was the only one who really lived the hustler life - the rest of the line up where barely out of school, with Cube still living with his mum right through that first tour period (IIRC). And to be fair to the film they acknowledged that Eazy wasnt a rapper, that he didn't really have the talent, but he was what he was and that made it authentic.
The film was heavy on the record industry elements, but I have to say I really liked that - and if you fancy more theres an interesting interview with Jerry Heller here, who defends his reputation somewhat - i think the truth is probably somewhere in between. The relationship between Eazy and Jerry seems really sincere and affectionate from both sides (till they fell out), and I thought that was captured nicely in the film.
re sexual abuse, I think its certain that a lot of really bad things happened - theres a lot violence that will be missing from this too - but like cribynkle says, Dre and Cube are producers here, its their sanitised version of events, and there are hints of it included. There is nothing role modelish about the world of gangsta rap, and the horrible shit that comes with it is part and parcel of something bigger.
as to the guardian reviewers in that video, i think it shows up a starting point of disrespect and disinterest: Dre in particular is a Giant of popular music, hard to think of anyone alive who has achieved the sales he has - the unlikeliness of NWAs story, the scale of success they collectively had, their legacy is still mired in a wider dislike of the whole gangsta rap culture...I can understand that...theres a lot not to like... but their lives are a reality, the insane levels of success and popularity are a reality, plus theres some great music in there too, and you have to come to that with a degree of respect (or dont bother seeing the film)...the truth of it all is even more incredible and epic than any film could capture.
*i did feel there were a few clunky edits in it and some awkward fastforwading through the timeline, but I saw just now that the first cut of the film was 3.5hrs (ended up 2hr17mins) - Id actually be up for seeing that longer version if it ever came out on DVD - theres a lot of events to get through in their lives
The actors re-recorded NWA's entire Straight Outta Compton album (with producerHarvey Mason Jr.) to help them get into character.
The real Jerry Heller vehemently objected to his portrayal in the film.
Eazy-E and M.C. Ren were the only members of NWA who belonged to a street gang. They were both members of the Kelly Park Compton Crips, a Crips sect in the Kelly Park neighbourhood of Compton. They were friends long before NWA was formed and they gangbanged and sold drugs together before venturing into music.
M.C. Ren, real name Lorenzo Patterson, a.k.a. The Villain In Black, was a fan favourite and major contributor to the songwriting talents of NWA with group member Ice Cube. When Ice Cube left NWA, M.C. Ren took over primary songwriting duties. Despite his popularity and success in the group, he was oddly relegated to being somewhat of a background character in the movie. This has angered some fans, including upsetting M.C. Ren himself, although he has additionally stated that he strongly supports the movie and its cast.
Dr. Dre is shown writing the famous synthesizer line from "Nuthin' But A G Thang", however the synthesizer along with the rhythm track were sampled from Leon Haywood's song "I Want'a Do Something Freaky to You".
that scene made me laugh tbh!
EFIL4ZAGGIN: The Only Home Video is a 1992 documentary film starring rap group N.W.A. The film was released on November 2, 1992 and was distributed by Priority Records. It featured groups behind the scenes of their music videos, concert performances, interviews and at parties, as well as three music videos from the groups album, Niggaz4Life, "Alwayz Into Somethin'", "Appetite for Destruction" and "Approach to Danger". On October 8, 2002 the film was released on DVD format.
REally interesting interviews with NWA + Cast + Director - particularly interesting about the actors and the director, they really did a great job with the material - some real method acting/directing going on
Are you mad??? I recognised it as Cube immediately and thought, 'how the fuck did they find someone who looks so like him? Only found out after, but thats his son who is the image of him!!! And a great actor. He aint skinny??? Do you mean the fella playing Snoop?? I didnt think that dude was perfect^^
THIS ^^^
Amazed me how similar they looked!
Really good film!
I hear there bringing out a second one, focusing a lot on death row records and the huge role suge knight played in the rise of west coast rap.
I heard after the film notorious, that they were doing a film based on pacs life instead coz a lot of big names in west coast rap weren't happy with how the film notorious was biased and some things completely false?
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