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Don't people from Liverpool proper call people from these outlying towns plastic scousers? They sound pretty scouse in St Helens to me anyway - quite different just a few miles away in Wigan. I think it is Stuart Maconie who writes about the invisible, contested line between Scouse and Lancs - and the fact it is ever shifting eastwards.
Yep. It used to be woolybacks but when they built the overspills of Runcorn, and even places as far as away from the pool as Winsford, scouseness started to mutate spread far and wide.

There then became a second tier of scouseness to appease the poor fuckers left behind :D. The plastic scouse became the new wollyback which is now reserved for the people of the Wirral and anyone on the North Wales coast who went there looking for the rainbow and rock and sandcastles only to find rain, crack and a bag of brown :D If you go to parts of Runcorn new town (Where John Bishop grew up) they sound more scouse than scousers. Widnes exists in the middle of all this contested boundary like a little Lancastrian Bigadoon though. That place is well fucking weired :D

Norman Tebit's bike also saw scouse outposts in places as far a field as Boscome in Bournemouth (The Costa Del Dole) too:thumbs:
 
St Helens was definitely not scouse back then. Firmly in woolyback territory. Mind you, so was Southport.
 
Isn't it the original Ikea in the UK? practically a heritage feature.
Yup. The callands Estate that surrounds IKEA is mainly inhabited by Swedish people who have worked and retired at the store. You can often see them cutting holes in the ice on the lake near Hood Manor and plunging into the cold water after thrashing themselves with privet hedge. Not sure where they go for a sauna though cos the one in town is mainly for cross dressers.

It's been there since the 30's I think ;)
 
St Helens was definitely not scouse back then. Firmly in woolyback territory. Mind you, so was Southport.
Southport used to be well posh. Now it's fucking grim." Since the scousers came" according to the old locals :D
 
Southport used to be well posh. Now it's fucking grim." Since the scousers came" according to the old locals :D
Oh Southport always had a seedy underbelly. I lived there in the 80s and worked in t'chewit factory and it wasn't as posh as you might think. It just lacked any of the character of Liverpool.
 
Its on! looking at a little bnb opposite Taylor Park and working round Ashtons Green
It's a dosshouse ha :D If it's the one on the corner, about 3 or 4 storeys high? Technically, the area is known as Toll Bar.

Brilliant that you're right by Taylor Park though!! When you go, there's a big hill - worth a walk up to the benches at the top for the view - love it! Also - there's an information board up there with the history of the park - fascinating stuff. The Quarry part used to have these big high-up cages, with all manner of small creatures and birds in them - used to love it there as a kid. The lido is now a skate parky thing which is a shame.

So when do you land then?
 
Here is what happened to me in St Helens in 1985. I was in a pub with my then boyfriend and two friends. A large bloke approached us and stated, accurately, that we were scousers. He was clearly offended by this fact. It's a bit of a blur what happened next but it involved a large quantity of huge, lagered up rugby league fans. We made it away in the car and on later inspection there were fist pummels in the roof of the car.

So in case the subject comes up, I don't think they like scousers. They certainly didn't then. Things may have changed but check first, if the issue arises.
Good point - but sorry to hear about your experiences. No, they don't like scousers. They don't like anyone really who doesn't sound like a fucking knuckledragging twat. Used to be a lovely accent round here - proper Lancashire. Now they just sound as thick as they are.

Don't people from Liverpool proper call people from these outlying towns plastic scousers? They sound pretty scouse in St Helens to me anyway - quite different just a few miles away in Wigan. I think it is Stuart Maconie who writes about the invisible, contested line between Scouse and Lancs - and the fact it is ever shifting eastwards.

We're Lancashire so don't come under the placcy banner. People from, say, Huyton would though.

See above for the accent. The old St Helens accent was pure Lancashire - very similar to the Wigan accent, and gorgeously velvety, deep and rolling. Now, just thick :(
 
Parts of Southport have always been posh. Hillside/Birkdale footballer territory. Or when I was kid, also people who talked with no trace of scouse in their accents. They were definitely posh. Whereas High Park and environs, e.g., were definitely not.
 
Oh my god - you're gonna be in Parr :D

You know I said St Helens was a total shithole? Well, Parr is the shithole of the shithole :D Rough as FUCK round there mate!
 
Good point - but sorry to hear about your experiences. No, they don't like scousers. They don't like anyone really who doesn't sound like a fucking knuckledragging twat. Used to be a lovely accent round here - proper Lancashire. Now they just sound as thick as they are.



We're Lancashire so don't come under the placcy banner. People from, say, Huyton would though.

See above for the accent. The old St Helens accent was pure Lancashire - very similar to the Wigan accent, and gorgeously velvety, deep and rolling. Now, just thick :(
Yes, on the same night, someone slightly friendlier gave us directions to go stret passt pilks wuks etc. I could barely understand him.
 
Widnes exists in the middle of all this contested boundary like a little Lancastrian Brigadoon though. That place is well fucking weird :D

I'll never forget going back to my grans in Hough Green after a year living in Spain and having some little snot-nosed kid come up to me and ask me for a 'knicker'. I beg your pardon, young fellow, I replied. 'Gizza knicker' he repeated. 'No knickers on me today, I'm afraid', I said, smiling at the forthrightness of the local youth.
 
I'll never forget going back to my grans in Hough Green after a year living in Spain and having some little snot-nosed kid come up to me and ask me for a 'knicker'. I beg your pardon, young fellow, I replied. 'Gizza knicker' he repeated. 'No knickers on me today, I'm afraid', I said, smiling at the forthrightness of the local youth.
They did give us that lovely May weekend in Spike Island :cool: Where we probably all got ICI cancer dust:facepalm:
 
Yes, on the same night, someone slightly friendlier gave us directions to go stret passt pilks wuks etc. I could barely understand him.
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I'll never forget going back to my grans in Hough Green after a year living in Spain and having some little snot-nosed kid come up to me and ask me for a 'knicker'. I beg your pardon, young fellow, I replied. 'Gizza knicker' he repeated. 'No knickers on me today, I'm afraid', I said, smiling at the forthrightness of the local youth.
Small world! I've got an auntie lives in Hough Green!
 
Sorry not replied it went dead workwise but they've promised more end of April... I bloody hope there is, its a mint contract!
 
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