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Some shots from Palestine

GarfieldLeChat said:
...all conlflicts there is sufficent a process of dehumaniseation with out devloping that with in the images which protray the circumstance.

Couldn't agree with you more. I would go further and say that photographs of people just being everyday people in exceptional circumstances actually command more emotional involvement from the viewer. I think we've all 'turned ourselves off' involuntarily to the many images of suffering.

I posted a link here a while ago to a set of photographs featured in the BJP EndFrame competition. Homeless children in the former USSR. What really grabbed me about the pictures (apart from there technical and creative excellence) was that they featured children just being children despite the horror of their circumstances. There were shock pictures also but, alone they would not have made nearly as much impact on me.

Nice work. You have any more Palestine shots to show?
 
Stanley Edwards said:
Couldn't agree with you more. I would go further and say that photographs of people just being everyday people in exceptional circumstances actually command more emotional involvement from the viewer. I think we've all 'turned ourselves off' involuntarily to the many images of suffering.

I posted a link here a while ago to a set of photographs featured in the BJP EndFrame competition. Homeless children in the former USSR. What really grabbed me about the pictures (apart from there technical and creative excellence) was that they featured children just being children despite the horror of their circumstances. There were shock pictures also but, alone they would not have made nearly as much impact on me.

Nice work. You have any more Palestine shots to show?

yeah i will be doing some more but in the habit of whittling them down from around 5000 shots to about 300 - 400 with the idea that there will be 6 final poster shots 2 postcard shots and 35 or so exhibition shots...

it's not easy...

I have many 'normal type' shots of palestinian kids and villages (although tryign to get natralistic shots when you have facial piercings and a camera - in most cases one or the other in most of these villages hadn't been seen before... up close, damnit :D)

people are much more inclinded to pose for shots to then say they have had their photograph taken.

more soon
 
zenie said:
http://www.lucidlondon.co.uk/pal/pal_25.html though not cos of the content it's just a weird pic - how did you do it? Hurts my eyes but very :cool:

well it's actually one of those things where like a zen ninja you practice and practice and practice till one day you will stand there and as the world moves with in you and with out you the light breeze and the hubbub of the local citizens drifts in and out of your ears like a dull rhytmic humming ....



.... a solider will throw a percussion grenade at the bread stand you where photographing next to a group of small children, deafing one for life and injuring others just as you depress the shutter....

what you can see is the explosion, and the pressure waves of the grenade exploding....

about 8 day's later a thrid percussion grenade went off near in front of me...

still haven't qutie got all my hearing back...

as long as i live i don't think that i'll ever taken another photograph like it...

but in a way i'm pleased that i did...

zenie said:
I'm just not sure that this set of pictures (as good as they) gets across what you are trying to say exactly. Is there some kind of message here? Of course there's trouble there and its in a dire crisis but the Palestinians have got what they wanted in a fashion haven't they?

I'm not really saying anything with the photos, my role was to capture the image, you role as the viewer is to to make a connection to those images... if of course the images are good enough to evoke that connection...

I'd say honestly that the Palestinians haven't in any way got what they wanted no.
 
GarfieldLeChat said:
well it's actually one of those things where like a zen ninja you practice and practice and practice till one day you will stand there and as the world moves with in you and with out you the light breeze and the hubbub of the local citizens drifts in and out of your ears like a dull rhytmic humming ....



.... a solider will throw a percussion grenade at the bread stand you where photographing next to a group of small children, deafing one for life and injuring others just as you depress the shutter....

what you can see is the explosion, and the pressure waves of the grenade exploding....

about 8 day's later a thrid percussion grenade went off near in front of me...

still haven't qutie got all my hearing back...

as long as i live i don't think that i'll ever taken another photograph like it...

but in a way i'm pleased that i did...
Well I would be too I really like it. :D


GarfieldLeChat said:
I'm not really saying anything with the photos, my role was to capture the image, you role as the viewer is to to make a connection to those images... if of course the images are good enough to evoke that connection...

I'd say honestly that the Palestinians haven't in any way got what they wanted no.

On the contrary I think as a photographer your role is certainly to make the viewers have a connection with the images through the media of photography? :confused:

It's not about taking pretty pictures and then saying "read into it what you want to read into it" its about documenting what's going on - if you are doing 'photojournalism' then thats what you should be aiming to achieve surely?
 
GarfieldLeChat said:
here you go

lemme know what you think etc :)

Some of the photographs are actually quite good.

But far too many of them - especially the portraits like children who have clearly been asked by the photographer to pose with weapons - are obviously contrived and therefore lazy and shabby.

Overall, predictably pretentious.

Images taken by well-meaning (probably) left wing visitors on safari who'll come home safely afterwards. Ho hum.
 
fanta said:
Some of the photographs are actually quite good.

But far too many of them - especially the portraits like children who have clearly been asked by the photographer to pose with weapons - are obviously contrived and therefore lazy and shabby.

Overall, predictably pretentious.

Images taken by well-meaning (probably) left wing visitors on safari who'll come home safely afterwards. Ho hum.

hahaha

none were posed love

i don't do pose's unless it's for glamour ...

no safari, you'll be coming to the exhibition then i take it...

overall your response was predictably tedious...

comments made by a well meaning (definately) right wing hawk on safari to the tratiors bulltin boards who'll nerk back to freepers.com safely after yet again having their arguements destroied by people who can read...
 
pal_26.html camp fire Fav one :cool:
pal_5.html lol boy with gun laying on floor
pal_10.html that wall :\
pal_12.html RAR sunset
 
GarfieldLeChat said:
well it's actually one of those things where like a zen ninja you practice and practice and practice till one day you will stand there and as the world moves with in you and with out you the light breeze and the hubbub of the local citizens drifts in and out of your ears like a dull rhytmic humming ....



.... a solider will throw a percussion grenade at the bread stand you where photographing next to a group of small children, deafing one for life and injuring others just as you depress the shutter....

what you can see is the explosion, and the pressure waves of the grenade exploding....

about 8 day's later a thrid percussion grenade went off near in front of me...

still haven't qutie got all my hearing back...

as long as i live i don't think that i'll ever taken another photograph like it...

but in a way i'm pleased that i did...

I'm pleased you did too.... impressive picture(s)!
 
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