Schools and ipads

[likesfish]

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/10296008.Hove_school_introduces_iPads_for_all_pupils/

This is a colossal waste of cash and will end badly
For the same price as an ipad
i could get a laptop
A tablet
An ereader and a printer and a raspeberry pi set up and an external hardrive.

Do everything an ipad can do it better and have at least one operating device at the end of the school year.
The heads been blinded by the Shiny much like the nhs IT system.

 

[editor]

Yes. But it's an iPad! Shiny! Modern!

 

[bi0boy]

"Parents have been offered a package of three options: they can buy an iPad or iPad Mini directly from the school, bring in their own, or use a school-owned iPad, paying contributions for one or two years, after which they own it."

So they're forcing parents to buy iPads? wtff?

 

[likesfish]

Exactly £12 a month fr a miny ipad over two years case insurance extra.
Nice way to stop poor kids attending though

 

[8ball]

They have iPads at my nephew's school and he's 6 - I remember being 3 to a textbook!!

Wonder what they use them for...

 

[Dovydaitis]

I know at my old school they now have laptops for SEN kids. I remember a school opening up that gave each pupil a laptop granted they were shit but even so, when we were 2/3 to a textbook

 

[sim667]

We've asked for 2 for my classroom

I was essentially told to fuck off.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

We've asked for 2 for my classroom

I was essentially told to fuck off.

What would you do with two?

 

[Pingu]

angry birds grudge matches

 

[Pingu]

do schools still have classroom pets btw? maybe have 1 I pad per class and some kid gets to take it home over the weekend

 

[Mr Smin]

Teachers will be able to mark students’ work interactively by voice, recording their feedback while correcting their work.

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The student can watch a video of their work being corrected with the teacher explaining what’s happening – allowing parents to see what’s going on.

This is far more cool than pupils actually getting facetime (boom tish) with teachers to go over their work.

 

[wiskey]

One of the primary schools I looked at for Werv to go to in Sept has two sets of ipads (30 per set) for classes to book out and use. The headteacher was very enthusiastic about them, but they stayed at the school and weren't personal issue.

 

[weepiper]

One of the primary schools I looked at for Werv to go to in Sept has two sets of ipads (30 per set) for classes to book out and use. The headteacher was very enthusiastic about them, but they stayed at the school and weren't personal issue.

My kids' school has a setup like this. The parent council bought them out of their fundraising budget. I think there's only one set of 30 though.

I'd be pretty cross if the school suddenly turned round and said each child had to buy one. I've got three kids! That'd be £36 a month I'd have to find out of nowhere, that wouldn't be easy and tbh if I had a spare 36 quid a month I'd probably rather use it to pay for football or karate lessons or something else extra-curricular.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

Bring back slates that's what I say. The kids would love using them; I remember having one as a toy at home and loved the scratchy noise that the special tool made when you drew or wrote upon it. Then to wipe it off a damp cloth did all the deleting you needed.

Also if this was taken up nation wide it could lead to a revival of the Welsh slate industry.

 

[sim667]

What would you do with two?

We have small groups of five or six, and it would be good for them to be able to find research to write up in their sketchbooks at the desks they sit at instead of having to send them into another room....

They tend to use the computers in short sharp bursts, they'd be really useful in the way we run our classes.

 

[RedDragon]

...I've got three kids! That'd be £36 a month I'd have to find out of nowhere, that wouldn't be easy and tbh if I had a spare 36 quid a month...

There are reduced rates for parents with more than one child at the school and for parents at risk financially. (from article link)

What is 'at risk financially' supposed to mean?
If the school insist on kids having iPads then they really ought to find away of supplying them that doesn't include embarrassing parents/children.

 

[Fez909]

My kids' school has a setup like this. The parent council bought them out of their fundraising budget. I think there's only one set of 30 though.

I'd be pretty cross if the school suddenly turned round and said each child had to buy one. I've got three kids! That'd be £36 a month I'd have to find out of nowhere, that wouldn't be easy and tbh if I had a spare 36 quid a month I'd probably rather use it to pay for football or karate lessons or something else extra-curricular.

So if you're on the dole you are demonised for daring to have a flat screen telly, but at the same time pressured into buying an expensive luxury item for your kids to be able to get a basic education.

 

[Orang Utan]

I've worked in two primary schools that used them extensively and all the teachers in the high school I work have them.
They are expensive but they are much more durable and bashable than other tablets in my limited experience.

 

[equationgirl]

This is far more cool than pupils actually getting facetime (boom tish) with teachers to go over their work.

'Oh for fucks sake I knew you weren't paying attention in class when I was going through this, Timothy. 10 + 10 is not 100 despite what that twat Gove says'....

 

[Fez909]

Isn't it a bit unfair to expect teachers to annotate the marking with voice/video/whatever? I was under the impression that most teachers do this at home because they aren't given enough time to do it during the school day. Sat at home marking with the telly on/music in the background/whatever is annoying, but tolerable. If you made it so that audio is recoded, too, then much more direct attention would have to be given to the task.

 

[Orang Utan]

You'd have to put the pipe down too

 

[editor]

And turn off the porn in the background.

 

[likesfish]

Theres an article tht a school brought ipads for every pupil 50% were knacked within 12 months

 

[RedDragon]

Theres an article tht a school brought ipads for every pupil 50% were knacked within 12 months

Would this be it?

 

[likesfish]

Yes thats it pretty depressing

 

[catinthehat]

You pay for Ipads with what you would spend on teaching time is the general rule. My students without fail always rate 1 -1 and classroom contact time as the most valuable experience for them. And today they were splendid and put a picture of Gove on the teacher PC as a screen saver. I love em.

 

[RedDragon]

Yes thats it pretty depressing

Not really, it was just kids being kids and once they found a more suitable case the breakages were reduced to under 2% - and anything that winds up the tax payers alliance is good by me.

 

[likesfish]

Are didnt spot that under 5% is acceptable just think they need a decent case before being given to kids.

Though the charging cables are toss

 

[editor]

Bit over 5% I think:

It was hoped that the iPads would be a useful learning tool, as well as keep the school up to pace with international competitors embracing the technology in the classroom.

But after just one year, more than four in ten of the iPads had been sent off for repair, after being knocked, dropped or scratched. Figures obtained under the Freedom of Information Act reveal 489 had to be replaced after being found to be beyond repair.

Pupils said in some of the younger classes, around half the class had broken their tablet at least once, and some as many as three times.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...0-giving-pupils-iPads-admits-HALF-broken.html

Students in Wausau, WI school district may have access to a large number of iPads in their classrooms, but what’s catching many people’s attention is not the learning benefit the devices bring to the classroom, but rather the cost of repairing them when they break. The Wisconsin schools recently started their new semesters, and if last year was any indication, the district can expect about 20 percent of its iPads to break by the end of the term.

http://www.technapex.com/2012/10/educators-administrators-deal-with-broken-ipads/

Having a 9.7-inch touchscreen makes the device susceptible to damage when dropped. The school district began the year offering two options: $53 insurance plan to cover damage or charging $250 for repairs.
Approximately 40 percent purchased insurance. But instead of the agreed on damage fee, the district decided to work with a local company and charge students the amount of the repair. A cracked screen was most common, which cost $140.
While staff predicted 10 to 15 percent of the iPads would need repairs, approximately 15 to 25 percent of the tablet computers were damaged. The total number of students that had to pay for repairs and amount wasn't available yet.
Austin Bollinger was a graduate who was unhappy with a $140 bill. He thought the district should have invested in a more durable device such as the Samsung Galaxy Tab and had a more reasonable fee structure.
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2012/06/ipads_in_education_lessons_lea.html

 

[RedDragon]

Bit over 5% I think:

Did you read the Mail article you linked to?

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‘The breakage rate resulted from using a recommended case which was insufficiently robust. Since replacing cases this year, breakage has fallen to 1.2 per cent.’​

He added: ‘Exam results at the end of our first year of using tablets were the highest in the school’s 48-year history.​

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