Ryman League Premier Division 2014-2015

[TonyWalt]

Here is a map I have put together of all our away trips for next season.

http://www.click2map.com/v2/TonyWalters/Map1

 

[Scutta]

Here is a map I have put together of all our away trips for next season.

http://www.click2map.com/v2/TonyWalters/Map1

Nice work Tony!!

 

[Dulwich Mishi]

Here is a map I have put together of all our away trips for next season.

http://www.click2map.com/v2/TonyWalters/Map1

Indeed ,well done, but I would suggest that someone has a little too much spare time on their hands...

 

[editor]

Here is a map I have put together of all our away trips for next season.

http://www.click2map.com/v2/TonyWalters/Map1

That's ace. Great work!

 

[Pink Panther]

Here is a map I have put together of all our away trips for next season.

http://www.click2map.com/v2/TonyWalters/Map1

Cheers Tony. Just zooming in to the Greater London part of the map it sort of looks a bit like we've farted, and everyone else has dispersed towards the M25!

 

[sankara]

Excellent work Tony. You might want to have a look at Hayes and Yeading though - they're playing at Maidenhead next season until their ground in Hayes is sorted.

 

[juice_terry]

It'll be between Dulwich and Maidstone next season .. would be great to meet some urbanites at the Maidstone game

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

It'll be between Dulwich and Maidstone next season .. would be great to meet some urbanites at the Maidstone game

Maidstone last year was great. Meet you in the 'Spoons by the station before the game.

A bit premature to suggest they'll be the two frontrunners next season though...

 

[Jamie Wyatt]

Maidstone last year was great. Meet you in the 'Spoons by the station before the game.

A bit premature to suggest they'll be the two frontrunners next season though...

Margate could be team to catch/beat, money they have and will be spending!

 

[TonyWalt]

Have updated the map, replacing Hayes and Yeading with the reinstated Wingate n Finchley.

http://www.click2map.com/v2/TonyWalters/Map1

 

[editor]

Have updated the map, replacing Hayes and Yeading with the reinstated Wingate n Finchley.

http://www.click2map.com/v2/TonyWalters/Map1

Top work!

 

[vornstyle76]

Margate could be team to catch/beat, money they have and will be spending!

Margate's owner has said he thinks they could be a Football League club. Jaw-dropping. Also told us after the league away game, in a strange repetitive fashion that had me reaching for the plug round the back of his head, "We'll be in the Conference in three years, no question... We'll be in the Conference in three years, no question... We'll be in the Conference in three years, no question..."

 

[editor]

Margate's owner has said he thinks they could be a Football League club. Jaw-dropping. Also told us after the league away game, in a strange repetitive fashion that had me reaching for the plug round the back of his head, "We'll be in the Conference in three years, no question... We'll be in the Conference in three years, no question... We'll be in the Conference in three years, no question..."

Let's hope we fucking smash them then

 

[vornstyle76]

Let's hope we fucking smash them then

They're training in Kidbrooke from this season (I presume to increase the number of players willing to join), we could set up elaborate traps.

Edit: There's a joke there somewhere about Isthmian-level players being attracted to the bright lights of Kidbrooke.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Margate's owner has said he thinks they could be a Football League club. Jaw-dropping. Also told us after the league away game, in a strange repetitive fashion that had me reaching for the plug round the back of his head, "We'll be in the Conference in three years, no question... We'll be in the Conference in three years, no question... We'll be in the Conference in three years, no question..."

Well they wouldn't be the first team with no support but a well off owner to make it. More's the pity.

 

[steeplejack]

Where is Margate's new money coming from?

Last time I was at Hartsdown Park their new stadium plan was freshly knocked back and everyone was looking gloomy.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Where is Margate's new money coming from?

Last time I was at Hartsdown Park their new stadium plan was freshly knocked back and everyone was looking gloomy.

Rich owner I think. Your traditional 'local made good' type - that sort of money only gets you an Isthmian League team these days.

 

[EDC]

There's good money to be made selling jellied eels down that way.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

And cockles and mussels alive a alive oh. And whelks probably.


(I think he's a management consultant).

 

[steeplejack]

Rich owner I think. Your traditional 'local made good' type - that sort of money only gets you an Isthmian League team these days.

Hmm, obviously a recent development. They had a reasonable conference team under Chris Kinnear a while back, but then the wheels came off spectacularly owing to a ground fuck up and totally running out of money.

Always thought there could be league potential for another Kent team but Dover Athletic and Dartford seem miles ahead of Margate in the "realism" stakes. Maidsotne, too, once the conference stop being so absurdly conservative about artifical pitches.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Hmm, obviously a recent development. They had a reasonable conference team under Chris Kinnear a while back, but then the wheels came off spectacularly owing to a ground fuck up and totally running out of money.

Always thought there could be league potential for another Kent team but Dover Athletic and Dartford seem miles ahead of Margate in the "realism" stakes. Maidsotne, too, once the conference stop being so absurdly conservative about artifical pitches.

Yes Maidstone are the obvious one - there's certainly the potential crowd there. They'll need to improve the team before they have to worry about the pitch though, they finished out of the playoffs just below Dulwich last year.

 

[Joe K]

Rich owner I think. Your traditional 'local made good' type - that sort of money only gets you an Isthmian League team these days.

When we met him, he told us he was a local, but that he'd previously been on the board at Wolves, a club renowned for their financial probity over the last thirty or so years.

His other claim was that Margate could lay claim to a catchment of something in the region of 300,000+ people, which I take to mean not only all of Thanet (thus including Ramsgate) but all of north-east Kent (thus including former-Hamlet-opponent towns Herne Bay and Whitstable). Although their own team didn't seem particularly well supported when I went there - and I was seeing double! - I can't imagine people from Ramsgate deciding en masse to support their local rivals. 'Catchment' is always a funny idea in football, as it's based on a purely qualitative measure of how many people live in a (usually arbitrarily defined) area, and fails to take into account things like internecine local politics, how much the club have pissed off councils and other locals in the past, whether there's a tradition of locals going to watch a relatively distant big club (familial loyalties to the Merseyside clubs is what means big towns like Warrington and Skelmersdale never get a professional club off the ground, for instance), and whether there's another sport or pasttime competing with football. It's like this recent 'Palace have a potential catchment of five million people' thing - just a meaningless statistic.

Anyway, it had disaster written all over it. Margate are a proper club with tradition and therefore can't be seen as another Whitehawk, but it's hard to have much regard for yet another team who are going to win the league thanks to short-sighted financial doping.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

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His other claim was that Margate could lay claim to a catchment of something in the region of 300,000+ people, which I take to mean not only all of Thanet (thus including Ramsgate) but all of north-east Kent (thus including former-Hamlet-opponent towns Herne Bay and Whitstable). Although their own team didn't seem particularly well supported when I went there - and I was seeing double! - I can't imagine people from Ramsgate deciding en masse to support their local rivals. 'Catchment' is always a funny idea in football, as it's based on a purely qualitative measure of how many people live in a (usually arbitrarily defined) area, and fails to take into account things like internecine local politics, how much the club have pissed off councils and other locals in the past, whether there's a tradition of locals going to watch a relatively distant big club (familial loyalties to the Merseyside clubs is what means big towns like Warrington and Skelmersdale never get a professional club off the ground, for instance), and whether there's another sport or pasttime competing with football. It's like this recent 'Palace have a potential catchment of five million people' thing - just a meaningless statistic.

Agreed. It's an appealing idea for club owners but it's generally nonsense. Sam Hammam (and possibly Tan too) gave various interviews about the possibility of turning Cardiff into 'Wales FC' - good luck selling that to the Swansea and Wrexham fans. Really the only club who've pulled it off have been the MK Dons (unfortunately).

 

[G Man]

They're training in Kidbrooke from this season (I presume to increase the number of players willing to join), we could set up elaborate traps.

Edit: There's a joke there somewhere about Isthmian-level players being attracted to the bright lights of Kidbrooke.

Kidbrooke. Only ever rarely go through it on the bus. Back in the day i.e 2-3 years ago when the Ferrier estate was still going, it looked and felt a really rough place. Now it's known as Kidbrooke 'village' I believe, and resembles a stripped down, mini version of the Olympic village. Do the wankers have to pretend they live in Blackheath now?

Margate's chairman was eerily robotic at the away game, somewhat reminiscent of a character from iconic 1990's American tv show 'eerie Indiana (big up the Burt!) Hopefully we can do em' like we did three times last year. Happy days!

 

[vornstyle76]

It's like this recent 'Palace have a potential catchment of five million people' thing - just a meaningless statistic.

Dulwich Hamlet have a potential catchment area of five million people. Mishi better open the second turnstile!

 

[Andy payne]

Im thinking why should it only be the Premiership that have owners with a bit of spare cash, good luck to anyone that wants to invest in non-league football in England as it will be the only way our younger players that have slipped through the ever widening net of "BIG" clubs. Margate, Maidstone and Peacehaven all have big money owners..... only time will tell if it is influential in this Division or not.

 

[Pink Panther]

Im thinking why should it only be the Premiership that have owners with a bit of spare cash, good luck to anyone that wants to invest in non-league football in England as it will be the only way our younger players that have slipped through the ever widening net of "BIG" clubs. Margate, Maidstone and Peacehaven all have big money owners..... only time will tell if it is influential in this Division or not.

"A bit of spare cash" seems something of an understatement. I don't like to see this whether it's Margate, or Chelsea or Manchester City. Personally I think it stinks, and I don't ever want to see it at the Hamlet either.

 

[darryl]

Kidbrooke. Only ever rarely go through it on the bus. Back in the day i.e 2-3 years ago when the Ferrier estate was still going, it looked and felt a really rough place. Now it's known as Kidbrooke 'village' I believe, and resembles a stripped down, mini version of the Olympic village. Do the wankers have to pretend they live in Blackheath now?

People in Kidbrooke have ALWAYS pretended they live in Blackheath.

Part of the Kidbrooke Village development is built on the site of Harrow Meadow, the old home ground of Greenwich Borough. (Greenwich Council took the land back after a row over rent with GB, and handed it over to Berkeley Homes.)

 

[Dulwich Mishi]

People in Kidbrooke have ALWAYS pretended they live in Blackheath.

Part of the Kidbrooke Village development is built on the site of Harrow Meadow, the old home ground of Greenwich Borough. (Greenwich Council took the land back after a row over rent with GB, and handed it over to Berkeley Homes.)

Greenwich Borough was part of the Sami Muduroglu fiasco...the bloke who sank Fisher Athletic, and almost took us under, through association...
Story goes he got involved there to build housing on it, but the council were wise to him...all 'allegedly' of course! ;-)

 

[darryl]

Greenwich Borough was part of the Sami Muduroglu fiasco...the bloke who sank Fisher Athletic, and almost took us under, through association...
Story goes he got involved there to build housing on it, but the council were wise to him...all 'allegedly' of course! ;-)

Oh really? I didn't realise there was a connection. At some point a few years back, Danny Dyer was chairman of the club (!), and there seemed to be all kinds of rum goings-on for a bit. They seem to be back on their feet now, playing out at Dartford.