Russian forces fire on RN vessel in Black Sea... (23/06/21)

[weltweit]

So all kicking off

or not

Depending on which news source you take ..

Ruskies eh ..

 

[Smangus]

Global Britain eh

 

[StoneRoad]

Makes up for having to scramble some RAF jets to escort Bears back out over the North Sea.

That escort duty is a regular feature, but rarely gets reported.

 

[bimble]

Escorting Bears?

 

[a_chap]

Escorting Bears?

It's from the 1975 novelty song "Convoy".

Bears in the air: police in helicopters.

 

[weltweit]

Escorting Bears?

Russian strategic bombers. Massive 4 engine propeller driven Rusky bombers that often fly around the UK and cause alerts and the scrambling of fighters to intercept them.

 

[a_chap]

My answer was funnier.

 

[deeyo]

It's from the 1975 novelty song "Convoy".

Bears in the air: police in helicopters.

great movie, too.

 

[weltweit]

Russian strategic bombers. Massive 4 engine propeller driven Rusky bombers that often fly around the UK and cause alerts and the scrambling of fighters to intercept them.

 

[JimW]

Florence and Mary are packing their nursing kit.

 

[Dogsauce]

Just happened to have the BBC on board for this stunt. What other shitshow are they trying to distract us from?

 

[19sixtysix]

Preplanned

Just happened to have the BBC on board for this stunt. What other shitshow are they trying to distract us from?

Exactly. State broadcaster BBC headlines with report from reporter who just happens to be on board.

 

[teqniq]

And someone from the Fail. What a strange coincidence:

 

[NoXion]

Yawn. Wake me up when the Russians actually hit something.

 

[rubbershoes]

And someone from the Fail. What a strange coincidence:

Read that as someone from The Fall.

Tbf a significant percentage of people have been in The Fall, so it's not impossible

 

[dessiato]

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It's been going on for a long time.


11 Sqdn Lightning from RAF Binbrook. They went out of service in 1987/88.

 

[dessiato]

Idly surfing I came across this pic. How long has the Bear been flying? It must be 35+ years.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Idly surfing I came across this pic. How long has the Bear been flying? It must be 35+ years.

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Since 52.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Was gonna say this was Stalin era development

 

[kebabking]

There are journalists on many UK military operations/exercises - certainly film crews have gone with previous RN deployments to the black sea (they even made a tv series about it...), there have been journalists on the UK contingent with the UN force in Mali, there were journalists on the recent Joint Warrior exercise off Scotland, and there will be journalists with the rest of the RN carrier strike group as it does its round the world cruise...

Of course, experienced defence/media watchers will be well aware of this - I mean, no one would want to be thought of as some tRuTh sEEkinG moOn hOwLer who sees conspiracy when there is none....

 

[dessiato]

Since 52.

69 years, that’s a hell of a long time. I guess they must be solidly reliable at least. Given how far technology has moved on since then I wonder what the advantages of keeping it are.

 

[spitfire]

I was reading about this yesterday but didn't really understand it enough to post but the USNI are reporting it and I guess they must be a reliable source?

Positions of Two NATO Ships Were Falsified Near Russian Black Sea Naval Base - USNI News

The tracking data of two NATO warships was faked off the coast of a Russian controlled naval base in the Black Sea while the actual ships were moored 180 miles away, USNI News has learned. The U.K. Royal Navy’s HMS Defender, a Type-45 Daring-class destroyer, and the Royal Netherlands Navy’s...

news.usni.org

 

[WouldBe]

69 years, that’s a hell of a long time. I guess they must be solidly reliable at least. Given how far technology has moved on since then I wonder what the advantages of keeping it are.

It will be like Triggers broom, every part will have been changed in that time.

 

[CNT36]

Sending a 69 year old plane to test an enemies defences seems like a smart move to me. You get to learn about the enemies fancy new flying machines and all they see is a museum piece.

 

[T & P]

Like fuck the Russians dropped four bombs into the ocean in front of the UK destroyer...

 

[MrCurry]

So what’s the motive for provoking this little skirmish? The fact the journos were placed on board makes it abundantly clear that the U.K. top brass who ordered this little mission were perfectly aware of what the Russian response would look like, so why do it?

Some good old post Brexit Britannia rules the waves jingoism, or perhaps putting the idea the Russians are aggressors firmly in the public mind ahead of some other news which will come out next week, or what?

If my family members were serving onboard that ship i’d be spitting chips at them being used as political fodder, but I suppose that is the lot of the military at any time.

 

[ska invita]

So what’s the motive for provoking this little skirmish? The fact the journos were placed on board makes it abundantly clear that the U.K. top brass who ordered this little mission were perfectly aware of what the Russian response would look like, so why do it?

Because Britannia Is Back On The Global Stage and Ruling The Waves

 

[MrCurry]

Because Britannia Is Back On The Global Stage and Ruling The Waves

I’ll get my flag ready.

 

[WouldBe]

Sending a 69 year old plane to test an enemies defences seems like a smart move to me. You get to learn about the enemies fancy new flying machines and all they see is a museum piece.

They would just shoot the flying fossil down with their air defence systems.

 

[T & P]

As I understand it, the object of such missions is mainly to check the response times by the UK defence radars & the RAF jets sent to intercept them. It makes sense not to send more advanced aircraft for such sorties.