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RIP John Prescott

Might not have always been the best politician but was never one to back down from a fight, in more ways than one. As well as giving that twat who chucked an egg at him a well deserved clump, remember him going on Top Gear and having a good old verbal battle with Jeremy Clarkson when he knew the audience wouldn't be on his side. R.I.P.
 
He went on that awful journey that started as a rank and file trade union militant and ended up in the detritus of neo-liberal Blairite garbage.

But I couldn’t help really liking him because he was a working class man who the media openly hated. They were clear, he was a ‘low information’ pleb - and even worse one who could have courted admittance to their world but clearly saw it as worthless - and refused to abandon the culture he’d grown up in.

I admired his complete rejection of middle class culture and the obvious pride he had in his own culture and learning (Ruskin, working class autodidact, music, family, community).

I remember instinctively cheering when I saw him bang out that egg thrower. I also liked his open disdain for the snarky middle class New Labour wankers of the 90’s but I wished he’d have smashed a few of them as well.

RIP John Prescott
 
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I was once at a party where I ended up talking simultaneously to the woman I lost my virginity to [edit - many years earlier rather than that night] and John Prescott. Felt like one of those weird dreams but actually happened.
 
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Yet another war criminal ...deputy prime minister who backed invasion of Iraq with full knowledge....fully suppported the invasion of Afghanistan also....his later bleating that "Blair tricked us" were the words of a weasel. The banality and normality of evil embodied. Fuck him and all the other endless stream of state mass murderers. I despise him and everyone like him...The queue of people like him waiting for their turn in power feels near infinite.
 
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RIP. A reminder of politicians from another age. Was the rough edge of old Labour in the smoothed out PR machine of the New. Always enjoyed seeing him on TV.
 
Smokeandsteam said:
He went on that awful journey that started as a rank and file trade union militant and ended up in the detritus of neo-liberal Blairite garbage.

But I couldn’t help really liking him because he was a working class man who the media openly hated. They were clear, he was a ‘low information’ pleb - and even worse one who could have courted admittance to their world but clearly saw it as worthless - and refused to abandon the culture he’d grown up in.

I admired his complete rejection of middle class culture and the obvious pride he had in his own culture and learning (Ruskin, working class autodidact, music, family, community).

I remember instinctively cheering when I saw him bang out that egg thrower. I also liked his open disdain for the snarky middle class New Labour wankers of the 90’s but I wished he’d have smashed a few of them as well.

RIP John Prescott
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All of that and I would also add that I remember seeing Prescott speak when he was a rank and file union activist and he was a different beast to the one who ended up promoting and defending Blair and resigning from the RMT. His railings against middle class culture were I'm sure heartfelt however they became a caricature, something that could be a distraction from what the governments he served in had ditched out . Someone to be wheeled out at convenient times to 'give balance' or to even attack working class militancy as 'I've seen it done it ' type response. A politician who could attack the Tories, and even in his later stages defend Corbyn from personal attacks and then fudge and bluster over what Labour should be doing. Ultimately after a history of facing both ways he won't be remembered for either his earlier militancy or any achievements in his time in office but as someone who once punched a Tory and had a bit of bluster.
 
The39thStep said:
All of that and I would also add that I remember seeing Prescott speak when he was a rank and file union activist and he was a different beast to the one who ended up promoting and defending Blair and resigning from the RMT. His railings against middle class culture were I'm sure heartfelt however they became a caricature, something that could be a distraction from what the governments he served in had ditched out . Someone to be wheeled out at convenient times to 'give balance' or to even attack working class militancy as 'I've seen it done it ' type response. A politician who could attack the Tories, and even in his later stages defend Corbyn from personal attacks and then fudge and bluster over what Labour should be doing. Ultimately after a history of facing both ways he won't be remembered for either his earlier militancy or any achievements in his time in office but as someone who once punched a Tory and had a bit of bluster.
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And drew out and exposed the depth of classist disdain from some tories like Soames who habitually 'ordered a G&T' when Prescott stood to speak.
 
The39thStep said:
Someone to be wheeled out at convenient times to 'give balance' or to even attack working class militancy as 'I've seen it done it ' type response. A politician who could attack the Tories, and even in his later stages defend Corbyn from personal attacks and then fudge and bluster over what Labour should be doing. Ultimately after a history of facing both ways he won't be remembered for either his earlier militancy or any achievements in his time in office but as someone who once punched a Tory and had a bit of bluster.
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That’s was undoubtedly how Blair and Co used him and he was savvy and clever enough to know it and yet went along with it. A ‘history of facing both ways’ is a good way of putting it actually.

But like Rayner now, the snark, open snobbery and class hatred (often from their ‘own side’) they provoke makes me instinctively side with them.
 
Smokeandsteam said:
That’s was undoubtedly how Blair and Co used him and he was savvy and clever enough to know it and yet went along with it. A ‘history of facing both ways’ is a good way of putting it actually.

But like Rayner now, the snark, open snobbery and class hatred (often from their ‘own side’) they provoke makes me instinctively side with them.
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Yes Rayner is the Prescott de nos jours.
 
Smangus said:
He had a fantastic right hook. RIP.
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he did lead with the left, what with being old labour

john prescott punching egg throwing twat
 
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