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HANA KARIM's father found out that his eldest daughter worked as a
prostitute only when he saw a photograph of her body flash up on a
television screen in Baghdad's main morgue.

Reeling from the shock, the old man was led downstairs to identify Hana.
His daughter's body, dressed in pyjama bottoms and a skimpy vest, was
caked in blood.

She had been shot twice in the head from close range, as had the other
27 prostitutes who lay dead alongside her in the city's morgue.

"When the doctors told me why she was killed, that she was sleeping with
men, I couldn't believe them," said Majid, a grey-haired 53-yearold
former construction worker with a wrinkled face.

"She was so bright. She'd won a scholarship to study to be a vet. She
loved Baghdad. She wanted to be free and wear nice clothes."

Majid said he at first believed that a Sunni militia had killed his
daughter, who came from a poor Shi'ite family in the country's south.

But Majid was wrong about his daughter's killers. Last week, The Sunday
Times spoke to one of them -- a member of a Shi'ite death squad attached
to one of the most brutal militias operating in Iraq.

In recent months, as Sunni extremists from Isis, (also known as Islamic
State), seized Mosul, Iraq's second-largest city, and marched on
Baghdad, Iraq's American-trained army crumbled.

Thousands of Shi'ite militiamen, heeding calls from senior clerics, were
sent to the front to plug the gaps and stall the Isis advance.

Yet, these Iranian-backed Shi'ite militias now defending Baghdad are no
less barbaric than the Islamic zealots of Isis, whose desire to impose a
Sunni Islamist caliphate in Iraq and Syria they are trying so
desperately to thwart.

Dressed in black shoes, black trousers and a black cap, Abu Abdullah's
bulging eyes hardly blinked as he recounted how his squad raided the
brothel where Hana and 27 women worked as prostitutes in the upmarket
Baghdad neighbourhood of Zayouna.

In justifying the brutal killing of 28 women for the crime of
prostitution, Abu Abdullah said: "When we are doing Allah's work we are
never scared. We never regret."

One month before the murders, Abu Abdullah's men posted a letter and a
bullet through the door of the brothel.

When the prostitutes failed to heed the warning, Abu Abdullah received
orders to mobilise his hit squad. The team of 15 assassins slipped
through a hole in the corrugated iron fence and into the apartment
block's garden.

Neighbours, who had initially asked the militia to chase the prostitutes
from the area, watched from their balconies as the militiamen broke down
the front door and rounded up the women.

Some they shot in their beds, alongside male customers. Others they
forced onto their knees before shooting them in the heads with silenced
pistols, deaf to their cries for mercy.

"Many screamed at us and told us that they would stop their work. We
said we have no choice but to finish you now. They didn't listen to us
before. We told them to be quiet and then we shot them," Abu Abdullah said.

A gaggle of terrified women who had escaped the initial slaughter
cowered together in the bathroom. Gunmen walked in and shot them in the
head one by one, splattering flecks of blood on the white tiles. The
killers found one woman in a cupboard. They dragged her out and shot her
in the head.

Within half an hour, 28 women and five men lay dead. Some of the victims
lay slumped together in the main living room, their arms and legs
entwined. In the moments before their death, one of the men had tried to
shield one of the women from the gunfire. His arms were still locked
around her.

In the bathroom, curled up among the others, was Karim's daughter.

Hana had always wanted to move to Baghdad to escape the strict
conservatism of her home town.

"In Baghdad she never had to wear the abaya [the black gown that covers
a woman's body and head].

"She could wear fancy clothes instead. She always sounded like she was
happy when we spoke to her on the phone," said Karim, who lost one of
his sons, a doctor, in a suicide bombing in Baghdad three years ago.

Having finished school with good grades, Hana's opportunity to leave her
home town of Nasiriyah came when she won a scholarship to study
veterinary medicine at Baghdad University.

But, at some stage during her three years at university, Hana's fortunes
changed. Her father does not know why she became a prostitute.

"Maybe it was money but she always told us the university paid
everything for her," he whispered. "I will never let my remaining
daughters leave the house again."

Abu Abdullah feels no remorse. "We're not like Isis," said the
37-year-old father of two. "We don't behead people. That's not in the
Koran; it's for animals. In the holy book it says prostitutes should be
stoned to death. We didn't have time to stone them so we shot them. It's
cleaner this way."

Abu Abdullah and his men are not only responsible for erasing "unIslamic
behaviour" from the streets of Baghdad. Shi'ite militia leaders also use
the death squads to hunt down and kill anyone suspected of sympathising
with Isis.

On Thursday, Abu Abdullah left Baghdad for Amerli, a town of 15,000 that
Isis militants have besieged for more than two months.

UN officials have warned of an impending massacre of the town's Shi'ite
Turkmen population, which Isis considers to be heretical and so worthy
of elimination.

The militia Abu Abdullah works for received a tip that two Sunni Turkmen
families on the outskirts of the town were helping Isis -- one had even
given one of their daughters to an Isis commander, Abu Abdullah was told.

On Friday morning, Abu Abdullah's assassins stormed the two Sunni homes.
They rounded up the men, five in total, forced them to kneel on the
floor and shot them with pistols.

"We didn't touch any of the women and children," said Abu Abdullah. "The
men begged for us to spare them. They said their neighbours had told
lies about them. We didn't believe them."

Many blame extrajudicial killings like these for driving Iraqi Sunnis
into the arms of Isis. Hardline Shi'ite Islamists such as Abu Abdullah
say the killings his group carries out are justified because "most
Sunnis" support Isis.

Some Iraqi politicians have insisted that if Shi'ite militias continue
to operate with impunity then Isis will continue to find easy recruits
among Iraq's Sunni minority.

Blamed for a string of attacks, including the murder of Sunni
worshippers in a mosque last week, the militias are also hindering
efforts by Iraq's new prime minister, Haider al-Abadi, to form a more
inclusive government.

Yet Shi'ite militia leaders such as Qais al-Khazali, who commands the
Asaib Ahl al-Haq (League of the Righteous) militia, insist that Isis
will never be defeated without his men.

Backed by Iran with weapons, money and expertise, the league is Iraq's
largest paramilitary force.

Its men are battle-hardened, fighting with devastating effect against
the American occupation of Iraq and, lately, in Syria on the side of
President Bashar al-Assad.

Coupled with widespread allegations of human rights abuses, the
militia's anti-American roots and Iranian ties make it an uneasy ally
for western leaders as they scramble to find away to cope with the
rising threat of Isis.

Instead, the country is caught in a cycle of tit-for-tat sectarian
murders that many believe will drag Iraq into civil war.

"Iraq will not be at peace for a very long time. It will be Sunni
against Shi'ite to the end," said Abu Abdullah in a terrifying portent
of the bloodshed that many fear is yet to come.
 
Translation of recent statement by the Naqshbandi Army:

Oh dignified people of Iraq,
Oh sons of our Arab Islamic Ummah,
Oh free people in the entire world.

Verily the racist sectarian government has persisted with intensity in its killing of Iraqis and spilling their blood since the American enemy gave it authority over the sons of our people, and it has committed hideous and dreadful massacres against them: among them, the massacre of the mosque of our Sayyid Mus'ab bin Umair (may God be pleased with him) that the criminal SWAT militias perpetrated under orders from the racist sectarian government, and thus that government has proven what we affirmed in previous statements: that even if faces have changed the sectarianism, racism and subordination to Iran have not changed, also because the lackey sectarian racist government continues to rule over us while implementing the racist, sectarian expansionist plans of Iran. In light of these dangerous associations, we draw the attention of our people, our Ummah and the entire world to what follows:

1. Our Iraqi people will never obtain their freedom, their rights and their security except by continuation of their blessed revolution until victory is realized and the sectarian, racist and corrupt followers of Iran are expelled. And indeed all that has happened and is happening with the killing of Iraqis over identity, forced displacement, violation of their taboos and holy sites, violation of their honor, stealing their wealth and terrorizing them: all this is because of the continuation of this government and the sectarian, racist Unnational Alliance [National Alliance] that professes allegiance and subordination to Iran: the enemy of peace and stability in Iraq and the region.


2. Those advocating division under so-called federalism and regions and the other various appellations are collaborators in this hideous massacre and are looking out for occasions like this to renew their hopeless demands to divide our homeland of Iraq by sect, race, and ethnicity to implement the agendas of their overlords. This is what our army (JRTN) and the sons of our dignified Iraqi people reject, also because the unity of Iraq in land and people is among our principles and precepts, so there is no compromise over it at all, ever.

3. We affirm what our army (JRTN) thinks:

a) The sectarian, racist Unnational Alliance that the American enemy brought to Iraq feigns interest in democracy and adherence to the U.S.; and it is in reality bound by doctrine, madhhab, and spirit to Iran; and it is implementing Iran's expansionist interests in the region and the world in exporting the Iranian Revolution (of evil renown).

b) The continuation of American support for this sectarian, racist and corrupt Unnational Alliance has destroyed the U.S.'s respect and credibility with the international community in its embrace of the spreading of freedom and democracy and the protection of human rights.

c) The forced displacement of Iraqis, the emptying of Iraq of its foundational components, and the changing of the demographic and political map of Iraq and the region is on of the crimes of the racist sectarian government and its bloody terrorist militias. The aim of this is to sow fitna [strife] and separation as well as confuse documentation to distort and destroy the destiny of our Iraqi people's revolution.

d) Holy sites like mosques, places of worship and shrines of the prophets (on our Prophet and them prayers and peace) and shrines of the awliya' and just ones (may God have mercy on them) constitute holy religious and doctrinal sites that must be respected, dignified and not be infringed on.

e) Infringing on holy religious and doctrinal sites and killing unarmed believing worshippers in them and spilling their blood is an enormous crime and gross violation of their rights, and it is contrary to the principles of monotheistic Islam and the principles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and freedom of religion.

4. We hold the U.S. and international community responsible for what is happening in Iraq for the continuation of their support for this cheap, miserable, illegal political operation, and its racist sectarian government with its carrying out of these hideous massacres against our Iraqi people who keep the peace, and its committing organized state terrorism, killing over identity, violation of the sanctities of holy sites, killing worshippers in them, forced displacement of Iraqis, demographic change including displacement of Christians, Yezidis and other minorities, kindling the fire of sectarian and racist violence, and violating the right of citizenship and peaceful co-existence among the components and sects of Iraq's people.

5. We affirm as we have previously affirmed that our army (JRTN) has not had any connection to any side considered suspect or connected with this racist sectarian government and bloody terrorist militias in any way.

We entreat God, His messenger and our Iraqi people to move forward on the path of liberating the land from all forms of sectarianism, racism, and the realization of justice, equality, peace, respect for human and citizenship rights, and life with dignity for all the sons of our people without distinction and the protection of the interests of the peoples and states that stand by the Iraqi people in their blessed revolution and obtaining their rights completely without reduction, and there is no victory except with God, the Almighty, the All-Wise.

Dr. Salah ad-Din al-Ayyubi,
Official JRTN spokesman.
28 Shuwwal 1435 AH.
24 August 2014.

http://www.aymennjawad.org/2014/08/naqshbandi-army-statement-24-august-analysis
 
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Yeah, sickos! Why do Arab sunnis stand up and fight against the occupation? Why don't they just lie down and be murdered by the criminal regime and the Americans and Iran?

Let it be known that last week the General Military Council in Fallujah issued a statement identical in meaning, if not in words, to that I posted by the Naqshbandi.

Meanwhile, the imperialist intervention is in full motion.

http://uruknet.info/?p=m109373&hd=&size=1&l=e

Dear Friends

As you know, there have been a huge disinformation campaigns related to what’s been going on in Iraq and what ISIS has been committing in Mosul.

The continuous American Bombing of villages and populated areas will not solve the problem simply because there have been too many victims among civilians associated with this bombing and - in addition - the destruction of more infrastructure and residents properties. The American forces are not a non-bias party within the context of this conflict or situation. In reality they have created this planed chaos and mess through the occupation of Iraq since 2003. The American’s have their own agenda of destroying Iraq and divide it into three or four weak Federations, begging them to keep their military basis for ever to control all oil fields and other resources.

Also, they American forces are pushing to keep Christian, Yezidies, and the Turkmen’s areas under Kurdish control. These are not Kurdish areas and they are not willing to stay within Kurdish State. While the Kurdistan cities till the eighties were only Erbil and Sulaymania, under the American forces protection in the Ninnies and the No Fly Zones, they crawled to include Duhok, a city of Christian majority to their demands. The Kurdish Peshmerga with American and Israeli Mossad have been kicking the Christians, the Arabs, and other Minorities off their villages for two decades by now to include these areas within Kurdistan. After 2003, under the American occupation of Iraq, Kurdistan areas have been extending to include third of Iraq’s areas: Same Israeli policy in taking over more and more areas under the protection of the American and their Allies.

The other problem is that the American’s sources of information (Informers) about ISIS locations are the Occupation assigned government secret informers, such as Malik’s Daawa party members and Militia's in these areas. Just like in Baghdad and Anbar. Each family opposes Maliki's Iranian policy is being accused of terrorism. In Mosul they call them ISIS. That would include areas and families of other Tribal Revolutionaries, and other resistance factions. So we are getting back to point ZERO when the occupation assigned politicians and parties with Iranian militias since 2003 were leading the Americans troops in their raids and imprisonment to innocent people just because they disapprove the occupation measures in destructing Iraq's state and identity. The support of the American and Iranian bombing of cities is another way of giving the occupation forces a legal license to kill more civilian and Families in Mosul and other Arabic Sunni areas, the way they are doing currently in Fallujah and other already oppressed regions.

The solution in my opinion is admitting the huge mistake the American Occupation committed with their puppet Iranian supported sectarian government and look at the Fair Demands of the young Iraqis protest sites attacked by Maliki’s security forces and Militias last year. Give the oppressed people from all sides their rights to rebuild their country and ensure the future of their children. This can be done through pressuring the government of Baghdad to do some major policy changes. This cannot be accomplished unless some changes in the occupation written constitution is done to ensure that the political process is not based on religious or sectarian basis. The way it is in USA and European countries constitutions. Iraqi people will help getting rid of ISIS. People in Mosul are doing nothing currently because they think that if Maliki's criminal sectarian militias enter Mosul again they will slaughter residents, the way they are doing in Diyalah now. Christian areas should stay with Mosul because this is their city and areas even before Islam.

Again, this bloodshed have not resulted from sectarian or ethnic violence, the occupation related media is trying to convince us. It’s a normal outcome of the struggle due to Major Conflict and Clash between the American Colonial Agenda implemented by their collaborators and forces in Iraq on one side and the will of the Iraqi people fighting to regain their independence and their country back.

Dr. Souad Al-Azzawi is associate Professor in Environmental Engineering, Geo environmental consultant. Former Vice President of Mamoun University for Scientific Affairs, Former Chairwoman of the Environmental Engineering Dept.of University of Baghdad. She is a member of the Executive Committee of the Brussells Tribunal.
 
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Here we go again. Looks like we are going to be dragged into another war there. A war partially of our own making (thanks again Tony). How do people feel about this?

If IS gain full control of an oil rich country it really would mean a massive threat to the entire region and beyond. I was one of the 2 million marching against Blair's Iraq war of deceit. This is very different though.
 
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Here we go again. Looks like we are going to be dragged into another war there. A war partially of our own making (thanks again Tony). How do people feel about this?

If IS gain full control of an oil rich country it really would mean a massive threat to the entire region and beyond. I was one of the 2 million marching against Blair's iraq. This is very different though.
they have gained control of an oil-rich country. they've carved it out from parts of syria and iraq.
 
I would like to know what our involvement is, dropping bombs on urban guerillas to save the lives of innocents sounds like Obama's been taking it from the Knesset again.

Airstrikes stopped Radovan Karadžić and Momčilo Krajišnik's genocide. Whats different here? Genuine question.
 
Airstrikes stopped Radovan Karadžić and Momčilo Krajišnik's genocide. Whats different here? Genuine question.

The Croatians - who fought a parallel campaign - were much more effective than the Kurds / Iraqi Army / Shia militia are, there were Western forces on the ground able to intervene, and NATO was prepared to negotiate with the opposition (including Karadzic's mob) in order to bring about a (relatively) sensible peace that helped to resolve many of the issues that caused that series of horrors. There was also a clear and rational plan at the NATO end about what to do and how to fix things.

This on the other hand seems to be nothing more than gesture politics of the very worst kind. You just have to look at who is in favour of it to see how bad it is.
 
The Croatians - who fought a parallel campaign - were much more effective than the Kurds / Iraqi Army / Shia militia are, there were Western forces on the ground able to intervene, and NATO was prepared to negotiate with the opposition (including Karadzic's mob) in order to bring about a (relatively) sensible peace that helped to resolve many of the issues that caused that series of horrors. There was also a clear and rational plan at the NATO end about what to do and how to fix things.

This on the other hand seems to be nothing more than gesture politics of the very worst kind. You just have to look at who is in favour of it to see how bad it is.
And Israel stand obediently at the sidelines not wanting to get involved in Levant politics.
 
Six British Tornados seems more symbolic than substantive.

it looks like it, but actually its not. the 6 GR4's are just part of around 100 modern fast jets now commited to this operation - the truth is there isn't enough 'trade' for much more than 100 fast jets every night, so adding another 12, or 24, wouldn't produce much apart from more hotel bills.

more useful than 6, or 26, GR4's is the UK's RC-135W - snooping on phone calls, tracking their location and ensuring that the call tarrif is somewhat higher than the customer understood to be the case...
 
it looks like it, but actually its not. the 6 GR4's are just part of around 100 modern fast jets now commited to this operation - the truth is there isn't enough 'trade' for much more than 100 fast jets every night, so adding another 12, or 24, wouldn't produce much apart from more hotel bills.

more useful than 6, or 26, GR4's is the UK's RC-135W - snooping on phone calls, tracking their location and ensuring that the call tarrif is somewhat higher than the customer understood to be the case...

Which is the insanity of this; the two useful things we could contribute (the other being aid flights) we were already doing anyway.
 
Which is the insanity of this; the two useful things we could contribute (the other being aid flights) we were already doing anyway.

the GR4's are useful, their surveilance gear and Brimstone systems make them very useful, particularly against moving targets and where dropping a 500lb bomb might do more harm than good, but no, their probably isn't enough work at this stage for more than a dozen GR4's given what others are also contributing.

also of course we now only have 85 GR4 airframes left, we have other GR4 detachments in Afghanistan, and 3 GR4's in Nigeria still looking for those missing school girls. GR4 is our prime strike and reece aircraft, committing 24 to Iraq means having far fewer available to reinforce the FI or support a NATO ally with a nasty bear prowling along his garden fence. only committing 6 allows them to be kept in place for years if neccesary.
 
Got it:

HANA KARIM's father found out that his eldest daughter worked as a
prostitute only when he saw a photograph of her body flash up on a
television screen in Baghdad's main morgue.

Reeling from the shock, the old man was led downstairs to identify Hana.
His daughter's body, dressed in pyjama bottoms and a skimpy vest, was
caked in blood.

She had been shot twice in the head from close range, as had the other
27 prostitutes who lay dead alongside her in the city's morgue.

"When the doctors told me why she was killed, that she was sleeping with
men, I couldn't believe them," said Majid, a grey-haired 53-yearold
former construction worker with a wrinkled face.

"She was so bright. She'd won a scholarship to study to be a vet. She
loved Baghdad. She wanted to be free and wear nice clothes."

Majid said he at first believed that a Sunni militia had killed his
daughter, who came from a poor Shi'ite family in the country's south.

But Majid was wrong about his daughter's killers. Last week, The Sunday
Times spoke to one of them -- a member of a Shi'ite death squad attached
to one of the most brutal militias operating in Iraq.

In recent months, as Sunni extremists from Isis, (also known as Islamic
State), seized Mosul, Iraq's second-largest city, and marched on
Baghdad, Iraq's American-trained army crumbled.

Thousands of Shi'ite militiamen, heeding calls from senior clerics, were
sent to the front to plug the gaps and stall the Isis advance.

Yet, these Iranian-backed Shi'ite militias now defending Baghdad are no
less barbaric than the Islamic zealots of Isis, whose desire to impose a
Sunni Islamist caliphate in Iraq and Syria they are trying so
desperately to thwart.

Dressed in black shoes, black trousers and a black cap, Abu Abdullah's
bulging eyes hardly blinked as he recounted how his squad raided the
brothel where Hana and 27 women worked as prostitutes in the upmarket
Baghdad neighbourhood of Zayouna.

In justifying the brutal killing of 28 women for the crime of
prostitution, Abu Abdullah said: "When we are doing Allah's work we are
never scared. We never regret."

One month before the murders, Abu Abdullah's men posted a letter and a
bullet through the door of the brothel.

When the prostitutes failed to heed the warning, Abu Abdullah received
orders to mobilise his hit squad. The team of 15 assassins slipped
through a hole in the corrugated iron fence and into the apartment
block's garden.

Neighbours, who had initially asked the militia to chase the prostitutes
from the area, watched from their balconies as the militiamen broke down
the front door and rounded up the women.

Some they shot in their beds, alongside male customers. Others they
forced onto their knees before shooting them in the heads with silenced
pistols, deaf to their cries for mercy.

"Many screamed at us and told us that they would stop their work. We
said we have no choice but to finish you now. They didn't listen to us
before. We told them to be quiet and then we shot them," Abu Abdullah said.

A gaggle of terrified women who had escaped the initial slaughter
cowered together in the bathroom. Gunmen walked in and shot them in the
head one by one, splattering flecks of blood on the white tiles. The
killers found one woman in a cupboard. They dragged her out and shot her
in the head.

Within half an hour, 28 women and five men lay dead. Some of the victims
lay slumped together in the main living room, their arms and legs
entwined. In the moments before their death, one of the men had tried to
shield one of the women from the gunfire. His arms were still locked
around her.

In the bathroom, curled up among the others, was Karim's daughter.

Hana had always wanted to move to Baghdad to escape the strict
conservatism of her home town.

"In Baghdad she never had to wear the abaya [the black gown that covers
a woman's body and head].

"She could wear fancy clothes instead. She always sounded like she was
happy when we spoke to her on the phone," said Karim, who lost one of
his sons, a doctor, in a suicide bombing in Baghdad three years ago.

Having finished school with good grades, Hana's opportunity to leave her
home town of Nasiriyah came when she won a scholarship to study
veterinary medicine at Baghdad University.

But, at some stage during her three years at university, Hana's fortunes
changed. Her father does not know why she became a prostitute.

"Maybe it was money but she always told us the university paid
everything for her," he whispered. "I will never let my remaining
daughters leave the house again."

Abu Abdullah feels no remorse. "We're not like Isis," said the
37-year-old father of two. "We don't behead people. That's not in the
Koran; it's for animals. In the holy book it says prostitutes should be
stoned to death. We didn't have time to stone them so we shot them. It's
cleaner this way."

Abu Abdullah and his men are not only responsible for erasing "unIslamic
behaviour" from the streets of Baghdad. Shi'ite militia leaders also use
the death squads to hunt down and kill anyone suspected of sympathising
with Isis.

On Thursday, Abu Abdullah left Baghdad for Amerli, a town of 15,000 that
Isis militants have besieged for more than two months.

UN officials have warned of an impending massacre of the town's Shi'ite
Turkmen population, which Isis considers to be heretical and so worthy
of elimination.

The militia Abu Abdullah works for received a tip that two Sunni Turkmen
families on the outskirts of the town were helping Isis -- one had even
given one of their daughters to an Isis commander, Abu Abdullah was told.

On Friday morning, Abu Abdullah's assassins stormed the two Sunni homes.
They rounded up the men, five in total, forced them to kneel on the
floor and shot them with pistols.

"We didn't touch any of the women and children," said Abu Abdullah. "The
men begged for us to spare them. They said their neighbours had told
lies about them. We didn't believe them."

Many blame extrajudicial killings like these for driving Iraqi Sunnis
into the arms of Isis. Hardline Shi'ite Islamists such as Abu Abdullah
say the killings his group carries out are justified because "most
Sunnis" support Isis.

Some Iraqi politicians have insisted that if Shi'ite militias continue
to operate with impunity then Isis will continue to find easy recruits
among Iraq's Sunni minority.

Blamed for a string of attacks, including the murder of Sunni
worshippers in a mosque last week, the militias are also hindering
efforts by Iraq's new prime minister, Haider al-Abadi, to form a more
inclusive government.

Yet Shi'ite militia leaders such as Qais al-Khazali, who commands the
Asaib Ahl al-Haq (League of the Righteous) militia, insist that Isis
will never be defeated without his men.

Backed by Iran with weapons, money and expertise, the league is Iraq's
largest paramilitary force.

Its men are battle-hardened, fighting with devastating effect against
the American occupation of Iraq and, lately, in Syria on the side of
President Bashar al-Assad.

Coupled with widespread allegations of human rights abuses, the
militia's anti-American roots and Iranian ties make it an uneasy ally
for western leaders as they scramble to find away to cope with the
rising threat of Isis.

Instead, the country is caught in a cycle of tit-for-tat sectarian
murders that many believe will drag Iraq into civil war.

"Iraq will not be at peace for a very long time. It will be Sunni
against Shi'ite to the end," said Abu Abdullah in a terrifying portent
of the bloodshed that many fear is yet to come.

What a mess, these fanatics should be annihilated, but by whom, Isis?
 
I didn't follow the news in the 90's so I can't answer that.

What were you doing or is it best not to ask

then again I remember being at a free party the night the bombing began on Belgrade, it was as if nothing had happened

a few years later, thousands here were on the streets the night of the Iraq War commencing.
 
The Croatians - who fought a parallel campaign - were much more effective than the Kurds / Iraqi Army / Shia militia are, there were Western forces on the ground able to intervene, and NATO was prepared to negotiate with the opposition (including Karadzic's mob) in order to bring about a (relatively) sensible peace that helped to resolve many of the issues that caused that series of horrors. There was also a clear and rational plan at the NATO end about what to do and how to fix things.

This on the other hand seems to be nothing more than gesture politics of the very worst kind. You just have to look at who is in favour of it to see how bad it is.

Come on down Downward Dog..
 
it looks like it, but actually its not. the 6 GR4's are just part of around 100 modern fast jets now commited to this operation - the truth is there isn't enough 'trade' for much more than 100 fast jets every night, so adding another 12, or 24, wouldn't produce much apart from more hotel bills.

more useful than 6, or 26, GR4's is the UK's RC-135W - snooping on phone calls, tracking their location and ensuring that the call tarrif is somewhat higher than the customer understood to be the case...


Lots of gallows humour in the military, isn't there.
 
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