Rebuilding of Blackfriars Thameslink station...end in sight?

[teuchter]

Now the reflection on *that* side of 20 Fenchurch Street (the walkie talkie) is much better. I love the way it makes a miniature picture of the sunset due to its convex shape

I hate the way the whole stupid building is just an embarrassment for London.

 

[editor]

I've posted up some photos of the completed station which looks rather splendid in its sci-fi blue glow.

http://www.urban75.org/blog/photos-...idge-the-worlds-largest-solar-powered-bridge/

 

[teuchter]

I hate the blue lighting. Cheap and tacky.

 

[Crispy]

I agree. Reminds me of a Subarus Impreza with dropped suspension and counter-rotating hubcaps.

Pretty good station otherwise, though. Turned out better that I thought, especially the roof.

 

[editor]

Pretty good station otherwise, though. Turned out better that I thought, especially the roof.

I like it, and I like the way it puts a streak of blue light across the Thames.

 

[clicker]

I like the blue light, because from a distance it looks like a train speeding across.

 

[teuchter]

I like the blue light, because from a distance it looks like a train speeding across.

Since when did trains have blue lights?

 

[marty21]

Got the tube from Blackfriars Station a couple of weekends ago, first time I've been there since the work - I like it - and i like the blue lights

 

[Bungle73]

The one ting I don't like about the new station is that when I come out of the Globe or Tate, and I enter through the south entrance, a lot of the time the train is already in the platform, but it's only a 4 coach train, and it's parked right at the far end of the station! This means I have to run the entire length of the station to catch it! I don't know why they can't stop 4 coach trains in the middle of the platform?

Apart from that, the station is very nice.

 

[Crispy]

4 car trains should be consigned to history soon

 

[clicker]

Since when did trains have blue lights?

In my imagination it is streak of train speeding across a track...my imagination is no respecter of fact and neither should it be.

 

[cybertect]

Gratuitous photo, since I've been using Blackfriars for an early morning commute this week


Morning at Blackfriars by cybertect, on Flickr

 

[Cloo]

I stopped at it for the first time since reopening a few weeks ago; verrr' nice.

 

[hipipol]

The only idiot annoying thing is that you have to go out of gate from the tube, then in thru another for the train
Why no lift from tube to train platform?

 

[Bungle73]

The only idiot annoying thing is that you have to go out of gate from the tube, then in thru another for the train
Why no lift from tube to train platform?

Because the Tube station is the Tube station, and the NR station is the NR station. Different things, with different fares and different tickets.

And how are you going to have a lift from the Tube to the NR platforms when there are multiple platforms?

 

[teuchter]

Because the Tube station is the Tube station, and the NR station is the NR station. Different things, with different fares and different tickets.

And how are you going to have a lift from the Tube to the NR platforms when there are multiple platforms?

At Farringdon you can go between tube and NR without going through the barriers, can't you?

 

[Crispy]

At Farringdon you can go between tube and NR without going through the barriers, can't you?

Yep. Wracking my brain for other examples.

 

[Bungle73]

At Farringdon you can go between tube and NR without going through the barriers, can't you?

You're right. But the platforms are next to each other, where as at Blackfriars they are on different levels and entirely separate, and it's always been like that at BF, and is at most other stations where one can interchange between NR and Tube I believe.

 

[hipipol]

Yep. Wracking my brain for other examples.

Queens Park for example, or Ealing Broadway, or Stratford.............

You're right. But the platforms are next to each other, where as at Blackfriars they are on different levels and entirely separate, and it's always been like that at BF, and is at most other stations where one can interchange between NR and Tube I believe.

It would have been possible to have lifts connect the two levels - there is a lot of space at the Northern end of the NR platforms

 

[hipipol]

Yep. Wracking my brain for other examples.

Kentish Town, Northern Line and NR served by the same ticket barriers in a shared station
This is the last, wont post any more, promise

OOOps, Highbury and Islington

 

[Crispy]

Depends on whether there's actually a clear vertical corridor to thread a lift shaft through from tube to concourse.

 

[se5]

Kentish Town, Northern Line and NR served by the same ticket barriers in a shared station
This is the last, wont post any more, promise

OOOps, Highbury and Islington

Also Old Street, Whitechapel, Canada Water...

 

[Bungle73]

Also Old Street, Whitechapel, Canada Water...

Whitechapel and Canada Water don't have NR services.....well technically they do, but it is London Overground which is TfL. Not the same as "proper" NR services though.

 

[teuchter]

Whitechapel and Canada Water don't have NR services.....well technically they do, but it is London Overground which is TfL. Not the same as "proper" NR services though.

There are lots of stations that have proper NR and TfL overground though.

The point is, having the two ticketing systems doesn't prevent a station sharing ticket barriers.

In the case of Blackfriars my guess as to why there's no direct lift is that it just wouldn't be possible physially.

 

[se5]

Whitechapel and Canada Water don't have NR services.....well technically they do, but it is London Overground which is TfL. Not the same as "proper" NR services though.

Good point

Wimbledon has proper national rail, London underground and the tram

 

[lang rabbie]

There are lots of stations that have proper NR and TfL overground though.

The point is, having the two ticketing systems doesn't prevent a station sharing ticket barriers.

In the case of Blackfriars my guess as to why there's no direct lift is that it just wouldn't be possible physially.

The tube platforms are quite a bit north of the end of the mainline platforms by which point the high level tracks have to converge to get onto the bridge over Queen Victoria Street.

 

[ShakespearO]

And how are you going to have a lift from the Tube to the NR platforms when there are multiple platforms?

Just have a button to select which platform you want, ofcourse. They manage this on Star Trek.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Dramas, this morning
Blackfriars station terror alert as police cordon off suspicious vehicle Blackfriars station terror alert as police cordon off suspicious vehicle

 

[grosun]

Dramas, this morning
Blackfriars station terror alert as police cordon off suspicious vehicle Blackfriars station terror alert as police cordon off suspicious vehicle

What the... how on earth would you get a car down there? They must've driven it a fair way along the South Bank, or down the stairs

 

[Fozzie Bear]

What the... how on earth would you get a car down there? They must've driven it a fair way along the South Bank, or down the stairs

Yeah it's all a bit