Rangers 2011/2012.

[inflatable jesus]

And of course, it's not like there are any people glorified in song at Ibrox with any links to fascism.

Like say Billy Fullerton:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Boys

Fullerton was a former member of the British Fascists

Or the British royal family:

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/05/01/Royal_Nazis.html

One brother-in-law [of Prince Philip], Prince Christoph of Hesse, was a member of the SS and flew fighters that attacked allied troops in Italy. In fact, so many of Philip's relatives had Nazi links that when he married Princess Elizabeth he was severely limited on the guests he could invite.

Like most of the British aristocracy in the 1930s, George VI and his wife, the late Queen Mother, hoped to avoid war with Germany. The king sent birthday greetings to Hitler weeks before Germany invaded Poland.

More notoriously, his brother, the former King Edward VIII, who became the Duke of Windsor after abdicating in 1936, was sympathetic towards Hitler. Even in 1970 he told one interviewer: "I never thought Hitler was such a bad chap."

 

[tar1984]

The club itself is not revolutionary socialist but there is a well organised and growing militant anti fascist and left wing element among the supporters, which is becoming increasingly attractive to politically aware people from other areas of not just Britain but Europe too.

The green brigade?

Meh, I think the socialist thing to do is support your community club. The whole Rangers/Celtic, Unionism/Nationalism, Protestant/Catholic thing is just marketing to me, pick a brand and buy into it.

 

[anchorage]

Look around you next time you go to Ibrox.

Neither photo is at Ibrox so I don't see what your point is. I don't deny we have a minority who are right wing in their beliefs I was pointing out the lie about shame fc fans being anti- fascist. Tell a lie often enough eh.

 

[inflatable jesus]

I think you understood my point just fine.

The reality is that there is a fairly large tendency in the celtic-support to be left-leaning, progressive and anti-imperialist particularly as you move into the more educated end of the hardcore fans. These people tend to define themselves as explicitly anti-fascist and in many ways that's in opposition to the neo-nazi sympathizers that made up much of the extreme end of the Rangers support particularly in the 80s and 90s as links between C-18 and the Ulster loyalists began to solidify.

Your attempt at disproving this by referring to the actions of Stephen Hayes in the 40s was just another selection from anchorage's big book of pointless whataboutery.

More broadly, my point was that the indignation that some of your ilk attempt when the issue of Irish neutrality in WW2 are brought up is in fact the more obvious hypocracy given the fact that your lot routinely celebrate the outright fascist Billy Fullerton and fawn over the British monarchy who's past is really quite murky in that department.

So my main point is that idiots like you just try to bring this up because you think it proves that the anti-fascist element in the celtic support is somehow fake. The only reason you do it is so that you don't have to take seriously the well known fact that the hardcore end of your lot have a longstanding flirtation with fascism.

 

[inflatable jesus]

The green brigade?

It's there. Whatever you think about their views on N Ireland, the left-wing anti-fascist angle is a big part of their ideology.

 

[Fedayn]

The green brigade?

What about them?

 

[Fedayn]

I was pointing out the lie about shame fc fans being anti- fascist. Tell a lie often enough eh.

It'ds impossible to deny there maybe people at parkhead who have fascist opinions, there's one or two over on Stormfront who claim to be Celtic. But your claim is not that is it?? You're not referring to a tiny handful are you? So, care to explain how Celtic fans support fascism, how they support the smashing of the trades union movement? How they support the atomisation of the working class? How they support criminalisation of socialist/radical pro-working class politics?

 

[Fedayn]

Tell a lie often enough eh.

Like your claim Rangers never had a covert signing policy and it was the fault of Celtic fans that RC players never signed.

 

[N_igma]

Yeh Celtic fans are clearly a lot more left leaning than Rangers fans. You see Palestinian flags and Irish tricolours at Celtic games whereas at Rangers games you see Union Jacks and Israeli flags. It's obvious who the biggest cunts are!

 

[inflatable jesus]

Is it? I don't know if I could make that judgement based on what flags people wave (Nazi flags aside).

 

[inflatable jesus]

It'ds impossible to deny there maybe people at parkhead who have fascist opinions

I can honestly say that in all my many years of growing up with mostly Celtic fans as friends, I've never met one.

I'm not saying we're all scholars and gentlemen but I've never met somebody that's ever put in enough effort to codify their stupidity into a pro-fascist stance.

 

[Fedayn]

I can honestly say that in all my many years of growing up with mostly Celtic fans as friends, I've never met one.

I'm not saying we're all scholars and gentlemen but I've never met somebody that's ever put in enough effort to codify their stupidity into a pro-fascist stance.

I know none, but there are certainly one or two yes.

 

[anchorage]

Yeh Celtic fans are clearly a lot more left leaning than Rangers fans. You see Palestinian flags and Irish tricolours at Celtic games whereas at Rangers games you see Union Jacks and Israeli flags. It's obvious who the biggest cunts are!

Union flags you mean.

 

[anchorage]

Players signing for Rangers who were catholics got no problems from their own kind.

 

[Fedayn]

Players signing for Rangers who were catholics got no problems from their own kind.

Answer the question anchorage, go on change the habit of a lifetime.

 

[Fedayn]

Players signing for Rangers who were catholics got no problems from their own kind.

A seperate species are they these Catholics?

 

[starfish]

Oh dear, not this old chestnut again. Might as well get comfortable.

 

[anchorage]

Like your claim Rangers never had a covert signing policy and it was the fault of Celtic fans that RC players never signed.

And despite being an idol with the Celtic supporters, Lennon revealed he almost signed for Rangers when he was a kid.

He added: "There was a scout at Motherwell who wanted to take me to Fir Park but he moved to Rangers and then wanted to take me there instead.

"So Rangers took an interest in me - you couldn't make it up.

"They invited me to Glasgow to take a look around the stadium.

"But at that time they couldn't sign me because they had a non-Catholic signing policy and I don't think it would have gone down too well at home anyway.

TLB admits how him signing for Rangers would go down back home.

 

[anchorage]

A seperate species are they these Catholics?

Their own kind = bigots.

 

[Fedayn]

And despite being an idol with the Celtic supporters, Lennon revealed he almost signed for Rangers when he was a kid.

He added: "There was a scout at Motherwell who wanted to take me to Fir Park but he moved to Rangers and then wanted to take me there instead.

"So Rangers took an interest in me - you couldn't make it up.

"They invited me to Glasgow to take a look around the stadium.

"But at that time they couldn't sign me because they had a non-Catholic signing policy and I don't think it would have gone down too well at home anyway.

TLB admits how him signing for Rangers would go down back home.

And, hardly a shock is it? You evade the question, you claim Rangers never had this policy, it was all the fault of Catholic bigots.

I notice you ignore the comment about the 'Non-Catholic signing policy' Ho hum....

 

[starfish]

And despite being an idol with the Celtic supporters, Lennon revealed he almost signed for Rangers when he was a kid.

He added: "There was a scout at Motherwell who wanted to take me to Fir Park but he moved to Rangers and then wanted to take me there instead.

"So Rangers took an interest in me - you couldn't make it up.

"They invited me to Glasgow to take a look around the stadium.

"But at that time they couldn't sign me because they had a non-Catholic signing policy and I don't think it would have gone down too well at home anyway.

TLB admits how him signing for Rangers would go down back home.

Anything to say about the bit in bold?

 

[anchorage]

And, hardly a shock is it? You evade the question, you claim Rangers never had this policy, it was all the fault of Catholic bigots.

I notice you ignore the comment about the 'Non-Catholic signing policy' Ho hum....

I copied it so how is that ignoring it. TLB admits signing for Rangers would be a problem for him.Rangers showed him round the stadium then thought to ask him if he was a catholic. I will again state that Rangers signed players who wanted to play for them. Nearly all scottish catholics wanted to play for shame fc. Do you understand that?

 

[anchorage]

Anything to say about the bit in bold?

TLB always tells the truth.

 

[anchorage]

And, hardly a shock is it? You evade the question, you claim Rangers never had this policy, it was all the fault of Catholic bigots.

I notice you ignore the comment about the 'Non-Catholic signing policy' Ho hum....

I notice you ignore the comment about not going down too well at home. I wonder why.

 

[Fedayn]

I copied it so how is that ignoring it. TLB admits signing for Rangers would be a problem for him.Rangers showed him round the stadium then thought to ask him if he was a catholic. I will again state that Rangers signed players who wanted to play for them. Nearly all scottish catholics wanted to play for shame fc. Do you understand that?

Because you continue to make the claim that the reason Rangers never signed Catholics was nothing to do with Rangers and ALL the fault of RC bigots. Is lennon lying about the signing policy yes or no?!

 

[Fedayn]

I notice you ignore the comment about not going down too well at home. I wonder why.

No I don't ignore it, the comment 'hardly a shock is it?' is a reference to said point, ie some people in 'NI might look at it rather none too kindly to put it mildly. Fuck sake you're a pale shadow of your poor former self....

 

[Fedayn]

If I was you i'd be more worreid about the performance at Ibrox frankly....

 

[anchorage]

Because you continue to make the claim that the reason Rangers never signed Catholics was nothing to do with Rangers and ALL the fault of RC bigots. Is lennon lying about the signing policy yes or no?!

TLB lying We had catholics playing for us before shame fc were formed. Shame fc had a catholics only signing policy when they were formed we never.

 

[starfish]

TLB always tells the truth.

So are you saying you only believe half of the sentence?

 

[anchorage]

If I was you i'd be more worreid about the performance at Ibrox frankly....

Don't call me frankly and i am worried. Ally seems to be Smith mark 2. 3 CB's at home and two holding midfield players. They scored a great goal and shagger had about 5 great saves. Still 2 goals gets us through.