Primal Scream - crap/not crap?

[poului]

well?

Another one of those 90s staples (see also Spiritualized, Massive Attack, Radiohead...) that I haven't listened to in years but was a fan back in the day.

 

[chriswill]

Not crap,


Can be a bit hit and miss live.

Mani is the man.

 

[Sunspots]

Can't sing, can't dance, talk shit. Great record collection, fine magpie tendencies, and completely in love with rock 'n' roll mythology. Can't fault 'em for any lack of enthusiasm.

Crap/Not crap? -I can't decide.

 

[Firky]

Screamadelica and XTRMNTR = class

 

[siarc]

Can't sing, can't dance, talk shit. Great record collection, fine magpie tendencies, and completely in love with rock 'n' roll mythology. Can't fault 'em for any lack of enthusiasm.

Crap/Not crap? -I can't decide.

this is why all polls should be multiple choice

 

[scarecrow]

I've only really heard Screamadelica, the dixie narco EP and give out but don't give up. Not crap based on them - even if 70% of it is actually Andy Weatherall

But Bobby Gillespie is a nob, make no doubt.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Is anybody ever going to pull together all of the "crap/not crap" threads and make a complete "Urban75 List Of Crap (And Not Crap)"?

 

[Sunspots]

this is why all polls should be multiple choice

I really love loads of Primal Scream's music, but I'm all too aware that the vast majority of their output is either too much mimmicking of their heroes or is something that relies far too heavily on whoever currently happens to be their latest collaborators.

For better or worse, Primal Scream are die-hard music fans.

My usual Primal Scream rant: http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=4475531&postcount=23

 

[zenie]

Is anybody ever going to pull together all of the "crap/not crap" threads and make a complete "Urban75 List Of Crap (And Not Crap)"?

Are you offering!!

Definitley not crap!!

I love the new stuff

 

[siarc]

that's it pretty much
about half of xtrmntr and screamadelica, and most of vanishing point is really good, largely where all the affectations are forced into something resembling a cohesive vision
when it doesn't work it's just embarassing (see their new single)

 

[Sunspots]

where all the affectations are forced into something resembling a cohesive vision

Come Together, MBV Arkestra (If They Move, Kill 'Em), or Accelerator

when it doesn't work it's just embarassing

Their version of Some Velvet Morning...

 

[linerider]

Not crap,


Can be a bit hit and miss live.

Mani is the man.

when they do pull it off live they are fucking amazing

 

[Sunspots]

Watch 'em try their best Stones impression on tonight's Jonathan Ross Show.

 

[siarc]

Come Together, MBV Arkestra (If They Move, Kill 'Em), or Accelerator

i was thinking of exactly those three tracks, although they're of course indebted to their knack for finding the right collaborators (shields especially)

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Perhaps the best band in the world.

Or at least my joint favourite band with Radiohead.

Really can't think of any band formed this decade that will be as good.

 

[Sunspots]

i was thinking of exactly those three tracks, although they're of course indebted to their knack for finding the right collaborators (shields especially)

Come Together: to my ears, they listened to Melanie's 'Lay Down' collaboration with The Edwin Hawkins Singers and re-invigorated the whole 'Just Want To See His Face' rock-tracks-with-a-gospel-choir gimmick that so many have since used. I will NEVER forget the first time I heard it in a hotel room in Amsterdam...

Weatherall, I salute you.

MBV Arkestra (If They Move, Kill 'Em): by Scream standards, total overload. At the time, every other band was bangin' on about jazz, but Kevin Shields took it interstellar with a complete free jazz freakout. Just builds... and builds... then DESTROYS!

Accelerator: Basically, what The Stooges could've done with the benefit of modern technology and amplification. I listened to this at full blast, watching the bombers taking off from Fairfield, crying with impotent rage. I'm not too proud that I was just sat at home watching it on telly, but that's what happened, and at the time, it felt like the most appropriate soundtrack to what I was witnessing. It took me months to realise that he wasn't actually singing: 'C'mon, c'mon... -hit the edge of the world, THE EDGE OF THE WORLD!!!...'. No Kevin Shields, no comment.

 

[Dubversion]

not crap - but that was CLOSE.

let's face it, it's Bobby Gillespie's record collection on display and that's about it.

i always WANT to love them, but end up just loving them for trying (and failing) to sound like all the right people

 

[brahaminda]

Accelerator: Basically, what The Stooges could've done with the benefit of modern technology and amplification. I listened to this at full blast, watching the bombers taking off from Fairfield, crying with impotent rage. I'm not too proud that I was just sat at home watching it on telly, but that's what happened, and at the time, it felt like the most appropriate soundtrack to what I was witnessing.

I keep thinking how much I want someone to put "Shoot Speed/Kill Light"
to the twin towers footage...

 

[brahaminda]

I keep thinking how much I want someone to put "Shoot Speed/Kill Light"
to the twin towers footage...

Look I know its a bit tasteless, but next time you've got the footage on the TV, put it on.
It makes more sense than it sounds like

 

[Balbi]

bit rubbish on woss at the minute tbh

 

[Sunspots]

bit rubbish on woss at the minute tbh

I dunno... At this exact moment, I think I'm almost converted.

 

[mr rosewater]

utter overhyped bollocks, ....and Gillespie's a cunt

 

[Sunspots]

Gillespie's a cunt

He'd love to be!

No, he obviously tries far too hard to be out of order, and fails repeatedly.

Gillespie's more of an idiot, tbh.

 

[bluestreak]

hard question to answer sometimes.

i mean, screamadelica does nothing for me. as indeed do any of their works until vanishing point, which is ace, and xtrmtr which is one of my favourite albums to listen to in a fuck-the-world mood. i've seen 'em live four times now, and three have been explosively ace and one was shite.

so not crap, with crap tendencies.

 

[Iam]

When they're good, decent (Screamadelica, EchoDek, Xtrmntr).

When they're bad, fucking awful (Evil Heat).

 

[jodal]

They are fucking awsome. Saw them live two years ago at Roskilde and absolutely rocked.

Screamadelica is one of THE best comedown albums, ever.

 

[mr rosewater]

He'd love to be!

No, he obviously tries far too hard to be out of order, and fails repeatedly.

Gillespie's more of an idiot, tbh.

I've met him....he's a cunt...

 

[Sunspots]

I've met him....he's a cunt...

Go on then... spill!

 

[mr rosewater]

nowt much to tell....was in the leather clad era (his not mine...).....was very much the arrogant prick towards those around him, luckily I dipped below his radar...

 

[tangerinedream]

Never understood prml scrm. Loaded is fantastic, class, wonderful and xtmntr is ok I suppose, but the rest of it just passes me by.

Oh well