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Possible move to london, scared of the big city!

Mia

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I'm new to this forum, I found it when looking for advice about London living.
I have been offered a job there but apart from a couple of day trips I have no idea what London holds for a resident.
I'm not one for clubs, expensive dining or big shopping sprees, I'm very solitary the majority of the time, but I'm hoping to broaden my social circle, I'm guessing that London offers a diverse range of activities, from those in the know is it a good place to live in your opinion?
 
Where are you coming from?

A lot will depend on where your job is and how much it pays you to live comfortably. London is less fun with no money but at the same time there is a diverse range of free things to do, and the biggest mixture of cultures I've seen anywhere in the world.
 
I'm new to this forum, I found it when looking for advice about London living.
I have been offered a job there but apart from a couple of day trips I have no idea what London holds for a resident.
<snip> is it a good place to live in your opinion?
It can be, but it can also be a terrible place to live and work). London is still an overgrown patchwork of villages and small towns which grew into each other, so there's quite a lot of variation between areas.

I suggest you read the threads in urban's London and Brixton sections. There are plenty of pockets of green space for a few moments of peace and quiet - get a copy of the A to Z and you'll see them - I'm lucky enough to have Brockwell Park as an extension of this council estate's back garden. :)
 
It can be, but it can also be a terrible place to live and work). London is still an overgrown patchwork of villages and small towns which grew into each other, so there's quite a lot of variation between areas.

I suggest you read the threads in urban's London and Brixton sections. There are plenty of pockets of green space for a few moments of peace and quiet - get a copy of the A to Z and you'll see them - I'm lucky enough to have Brockwell Park as an extension of this council estate's back garden. :)
true, when I first moved to London, I used to happily travel for ages for a night out, now I prefer staying in my local area or fairly close by, apart from occasional trips to the South for urban drinks of course.
 
The job is in Camden? I'm used to small rural villages between cities and towns, I've lived in Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire and Leicestershire over the years and just spent a couple of years living in Spain, I'm ready for a new start but I'm unsure if city life is for me but the comments so far are reassuring, in my mind it's all crowds dirt and noise which is stupid I know.
 
The job is in Camden? I'm used to small rural villages between cities and towns, I've lived in Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire and Leicestershire over the years and just spent a couple of years living in Spain, I'm ready for a new start but I'm unsure if city life is for me but the comments so far are reassuring, in my mind it's all crowds dirt and noise which is stupid I know.
there are crowds, dirt and noise tbf :D If you are in Camden then you can get there easily as there are loads of Tubes, Buses, Rail, etc that get you there. Depending on where in Camden you can use Kings X, Euston, St Pancras main line stations, plus Northern, Piccadily, Victoria, Circle, Metropolitan, Hammersmith and city, and the Overground to get in. Camden is expensive to rent in though, but exciting to live in I'd guess. It is very green, Hampstead Heath is a great green space to the North of the borough.

Try and find somewhere in Zone 2, 3 (or even 1 but that is mega expensive) to live in, on a tube line is better for a new arrival. So Northern Line - takes you both directions - and is probably the easiest journey (when it works:hmm:)
 
I think a lot of how you adjust to living in "that" London will depend on how old you are

YEARS ago (like 30) moving and working and living in London would have been an exciting adventure - something which my sister did and I considered

Fast forward 30 years - my sister still lives, works, socialises and LOVES London - I had to work there a year or so ago for 9 - count them one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine days spread over a month - that month couldn't end quickly enough - to me, it was everything you've stated - crowds, dirt and noise - I've lived in a semi-rural location for the last 10 years or so, the change was marked

Me and Mrs Voltz have discussed this as part of our great life plan - and the only way you'd get me to move there would be for an obscene amount of money and for a strictly enforced time scale (< 2 years) if either of those weren't on offer, then being inside the M25 (which is what I classify as "London") simply wouldn't happen
 
The job is in Camden? I'm used to small rural villages between cities and towns, I've lived in Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire and Leicestershire over the years and just spent a couple of years living in Spain, I'm ready for a new start but I'm unsure if city life is for me but the comments so far are reassuring, in my mind it's all crowds dirt and noise which is stupid I know.
Not stupid at all - my first term at Liverpool poly I nearly went spare craving green spaces, just because I hadn't worked out where they were! :oops:

So, buy an A to Z - the most recent copy. You really will use it when you don't use a smartphone or google maps to get around. Even the most built up areas often have pocket handkerchief sized parks and squares.
 
I think a lot of how you adjust to living in "that" London will depend on how old you are

YEARS ago (like 30) moving and working and living in London would have been an exciting adventure - something which my sister did and I considered

Fast forward 30 years - my sister still lives, works, socialises and LOVES London - I had to work there a year or so ago for 9 - count them one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine days spread over a month - that month couldn't end quickly enough - to me, it was everything you've stated - crowds, dirt and noise - I've lived in a semi-rural location for the last 10 years or so, the change was marked

Me and Mrs Voltz have discussed this as part of our great life plan - and the only way you'd get me to move there would be for an obscene amount of money and for a strictly enforced time scale (< 2 years) if either of those weren't on offer, then being inside the M25 (which is what I classify as "London") simply wouldn't happen
I still love London after 27 years here (anniversary of my move is this week) but I'm lucky, I live fairly central (Hackney) and we bought a flat when prices were reasonable , so I can enjoy London on an average income.
 
How do I quote as I'm confusing with what I'm replying to? Thank you for the replies though
 
How do I quote as I'm confusing with what I'm replying to? Thank you for the replies though
just hit reply and it quotes for you

If you were replying to me - the zones are the transport Zones, which radiate from central London out as far as Watford ( I think) . 10 zones iirc, you pay more for your travel the more zones you have to travel through. A zone 1 and 2 travel card is about £33 a week, if you have to travel from zone 3 or further to zone 1, it will be more expensive. Bus travel is cheaper but takes longer.
 
You are very lucky to be moving there. I lived and worked in and around London for a few years and loved it.

If you've always lived in small places, and Spain (where? I'm living in Seville now) London can be a challenge till you settle. Then you'll wonder how you ever lived anywhere else. It gets into your blood and soul.
 
You are very lucky to be moving there. I lived and worked in and around London for a few years and loved it.

If you've always lived in small places, and Spain (where? I'm living in Seville now) London can be a challenge till you settle. Then you'll wonder how you ever lived anywhere else. It gets into your blood and soul.
Majorca, pollensa, as you can imagine London will be a stark contrast, I'm just looking at property prices atm I think I need a drink!
 
just hit reply and it quotes for you

If you were replying to me - the zones are the transport Zones, which radiate from central London out as far as Watford ( I think) . 10 zones iirc, you pay more for your travel the more zones you have to travel through. A zone 1 and 2 travel card is about £33 a week, if you have to travel from zone 3 or further to zone 1, it will be more expensive. Bus travel is cheaper but takes longer.
I had a panic attack when I last went for the day and travelled on the tube haha, that's not a good sign, but it was so busy and I had a pervert trying to touch me, hopefully this isn't the norm.
 
I had a panic attack when I last went for the day and travelled on the tube haha, that's not a good sign, but it was so busy and I had a pervert trying to touch me, hopefully this isn't the norm.
It's not the norm but sadly there are people who do this.
 
A few disconnected thoughts -

Presume you're aware that property sites like 'rightmove' mean you can search by area / near to particular stations etc. Personally, I'd be inclined to rent initially if I was moving to an area I didn't know at all rather than rush in to buying.

Nobody can really generalise about a particular postcode / area of London - it's mostly too much of a patchwork - one street may be completely different to the next.

Anywhere that's off the Underground (and is served by other railways - either the London Overground or the National Rail network) is usually a bit less expensive for house prices / rent. Many of the NR / Overground lines run at least every 15 minutes or better at peak times.

There is a journey planner on TfL's website here - you can plan journey by street name or postcode without knowing what the nearest station / bus stop is. The only snag is the more central you are, the more options it will suggest.

Bear in mind that the London Underground 'map' is a diagram not a real map, some places that look quite far apart aren't really, and there are a few journeys that look like you have to go a couple of stations one way, then change and go a couple of stations another way, it's really quicker to walk.

Transport in London is not deregulated like in the rest of England, so buses are part of TfL as well - Oyster Card / Travelcard gets you on any train / underground / bus within London so you don't have to think about which bus operator it is and which ticket you can / can't use.

Oyster and Travelcard also do things like the Docklands Light Railway and Croydon tram although these may not bother you. (They don't cover commuter coaches from outside London, sightseeing tour buses, and the Paddington - Heathrow link.)

Most London bus routes are quite frequent, and operate quite late into the evening - but journey times are slow especially during peak hours because there's so much traffic on the road. There is also a fairly comprehensive network of night buses / 24 hour bus routes - the railways and Underground generally shut down somewhere around midnight. (some bits of the underground may eventually run all night on Friday and Saturday nights but that was all supposed to start some time last year and it hasn't yet)

There are about 500 bus routes in London, so if you try to digest the entire network at once, it can be a bit daunting. They do 'spider maps' showing all the routes from particular locations - you can see these on the web here and they are shown at a lot of bus stops as well. All bus stops show info about the routes that call there and where they go along the route.

Camden is fairly well connected - as others have said not far from Kings Cross / St Pancras / Euston and of course is on the northern line (although this is very busy at peak hours - it can for example be difficult even to get on a northbound train at the Clapham stations during the peak hours.) It's also on the London Overground line that runs from Richmond (SW London) to Stratford (E London) - and any journey that avoids going in to zone 1 (the central bit) will be cheaper than a journey that does.
 
It's about how you look at things.

Lots of people? Yes. But people are what makes life meaningful. Having lots of them means that every taste in music, every hobby is catered for. That many people means that no one knows your business, there's little curtain twitching or gossip. My husband grew up in the countryside and people regularly got the heads kicked in for being weird / not fitting in. Here people don't really bat an eye.

Noise? Yup. But not everywhere. Sit in the middle of a park and while there might be faint traffic noise in the background, it's really not hard to forget. Don't live on a high street, over a shop or near a pub or club, and you'll be fine.

Dirty? Well, I suppose. But the countryside is fucking filthy *and* it stinks of manure. Different kinds of dirt, I guess. Some people notice the air pollution, if they're used to rural air. Me, I don't feel a difference.
 
A few disconnected thoughts -

Presume you're aware that property sites like 'rightmove' mean you can search by area / near to particular stations etc. Personally, I'd be inclined to rent initially if I was moving to an area I didn't know at all rather than rush in to buying.

Nobody can really generalise about a particular postcode / area of London - it's mostly too much of a patchwork - one street may be completely different to the next.

Anywhere that's off the Underground (and is served by other railways - either the London Overground or the National Rail network) is usually a bit less expensive for house prices / rent. Many of the NR / Overground lines run at least every 15 minutes or better at peak times.

There is a journey planner on TfL's website here - you can plan journey by street name or postcode without knowing what the nearest station / bus stop is. The only snag is the more central you are, the more options it will suggest.

Bear in mind that the London Underground 'map' is a diagram not a real map, some places that look quite far apart aren't really, and there are a few journeys that look like you have to go a couple of stations one way, then change and go a couple of stations another way, it's really quicker to walk.

Transport in London is not deregulated like in the rest of England, so buses are part of TfL as well - Oyster Card / Travelcard gets you on any train / underground / bus within London so you don't have to think about which bus operator it is and which ticket you can / can't use.

Oyster and Travelcard also do things like the Docklands Light Railway and Croydon tram although these may not bother you. (They don't cover commuter coaches from outside London, sightseeing tour buses, and the Paddington - Heathrow link.)

Most London bus routes are quite frequent, and operate quite late into the evening - but journey times are slow especially during peak hours because there's so much traffic on the road. There is also a fairly comprehensive network of night buses / 24 hour bus routes - the railways and Underground generally shut down somewhere around midnight. (some bits of the underground may eventually run all night on Friday and Saturday nights but that was all supposed to start some time last year and it hasn't yet)

There are about 500 bus routes in London, so if you try to digest the entire network at once, it can be a bit daunting. They do 'spider maps' showing all the routes from particular locations - you can see these on the web here and they are shown at a lot of bus stops as well. All bus stops show info about the routes that call there and where they go along the route.

Camden is fairly well connected - as others have said not far from Kings Cross / St Pancras / Euston and of course is on the northern line (although this is very busy at peak hours - it can for example be difficult even to get on a northbound train at the Clapham stations during the peak hours.) It's also on the London Overground line that runs from Richmond (SW London) to Stratford (E London) - and any journey that avoids going in to zone 1 (the central bit) will be cheaper than a journey that does.
Thank you for this, I usually drive or take a bus occasionally when back in the UK, I'm used to living in places where there's one bus to get to where you want to go so it's going to be a learning curve, I can see me ending up lost on several occasions, I'm going to visit for a few days to get a feel for the place, it's exciting but daunting.
 
Thank you for this, I usually drive or take a bus occasionally when back in the UK, I'm used to living in places where there's one bus to get to where you want to go so it's going to be a learning curve, I can see me ending up lost on several occasions, I'm going to visit for a few days to get a feel for the place, it's exciting but daunting.

I'd forget about having a car. If you're working in Camden, you won't need one and parking's a nightmare/expensive if you can find a space. And getting lost is part of the fun ;). As long as you've a paper copy (as Greebo recommends) of an A-Z so you can see how things fit together and an Oyster card so you can jump on a bus/tube if you have to, you'll be fine. (Oh, and the journey planner on the TFL website is your friend as is Walkit London.)

FWIW, I moved to London at 21 having very briefly visited twice (once being for the job interview) and I spent quite a lot of time getting lost at first. Been here now for a long time off and on and still enjoying it.
 
Try and find somewhere in Zone 2, 3 (or even 1 but that is mega expensive) to live in, on a tube line is better for a new arrival. So Northern Line - takes you both directions - and is probably the easiest journey (when it works:hmm:)


...the tube in the rush hour probably isn't one for those with claustrophobic tendencies...esp the deep lines...Northern / Piccadilly
 
It's about how you look at things.

Lots of people? Yes. But people are what makes life meaningful. Having lots of them means that every taste in music, every hobby is catered for. That many people means that no one knows your business, there's little curtain twitching or gossip. My husband grew up in the countryside and people regularly got the heads kicked in for being weird / not fitting in. Here people don't really bat an eye.

Noise? Yup. But not everywhere. Sit in the middle of a park and while there might be faint traffic noise in the background, it's really not hard to forget. Don't live on a high street, over a shop or near a pub or club, and you'll be fine.

Dirty? Well, I suppose. But the countryside is fucking filthy *and* it stinks of manure. Different kinds of dirt, I guess. Some people notice the air pollution, if they're used to rural air. Me, I don't feel a difference.
On my fleeting visits I just found it very hectic, I felt quite anxious when there, I definately need to go for a few days to explore :)
 
Oh, and unless your job is really, really well paid, I'd forget about renting your own place as it'll be too expensive. A flatshare's probably a good idea anyway as it'll give you a chance to meet people. SpareRoom London - flatshare, house share, rooms to rent, flatmates is a good place to start to get an idea of prices for different areas etc.
I really don't want to share if I can help it, I've tried this before and hated it, I like my own space, I'm a bit of a loner.
 
On my fleeting visits I just found it very hectic, I felt quite anxious when there, I definately need to go for a few days to explore :)
Thing is, 10% or more of UK residents live in London. The proportion living outside rural areas and small towns (so within cities or large towns) is around 60%.

I mention this because, while it might feel odd to start with, it's not some rarified set of skills. Nor is it an unendurable hardship. It's how most people live.
 
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