Peter Crouch joins the Dulwich Hamlet board

[tonysingh]

Paula , smoking and drinking brands are banned from any commercial involvement in sport . not so gambling .

Though they really should be

 

[pompeydunc]

Betting is a fucking evil industry. It causes real misery for millions of people around the world. And now Hamlet have elected a board member who actively promotes gambling for money. It's not a good look for a club that once stood out for its strong ethics and community principles.

And yet all true. What's your thoughts on his election to a club that supposedly strongly opposes gambling?

He's not been "elected" to the Board. He's been appointed by existing Board members. Hence the democratic deficit that exists here, any why it's controversial for supporters...no matter what your view on his appointment is and the reasons for it.

 

[blueheaven]

In general I feel Crouch's involvement is a positive move and that people should at the very least be willing to give him a fair chance, but I have to admit I really cringed yesterday when I was watching one of the Euros matches and he popped up in the middle of it advertising Paddy Power. It's hard not to see that as a big contradiction of the club's stance on gambling and it feels inappropriate to me that Crouch has a foot in both camps. I think it would be good to hear the club's view on this - it must be something that was discussed when it was decided to bring him on board, after all.

 

[B.I.G]

In general I feel Crouch's involvement is a positive move and that people should at the very least be willing to give him a fair chance, but I have to admit I really cringed yesterday when I was watching one of the Euros matches and he popped up in the middle of it advertising Paddy Power. It's hard not to see that as a big contradiction of the club's stance on gambling and it feels inappropriate to me that Crouch has a foot in both camps. I think it would be good to hear the club's view on this - it must be something that was discussed when it was decided to bring him on board, after all.

You mean beyond asking how much money we were getting paid by the tv company?

 

[editor]

It's going to give a very confusing message about the club's stance on gambling if Crouch's gambling adverts end up being shown in between episodes of the Hamlet TV show he's making...

 

[MrFouldsy]

What are his overheads? They will be massive.

 

[Tony_LeaS]

It's going to give a very confusing message about the club's stance on gambling if Crouch's gambling adverts end up being shown in between episodes of the Hamlet TV show he's making...

I'd like to think Discovery wouldn't be the place for a ad with gambling but then again TV surprises me sometimes.

 

[supersafari]

Have yet to see any adverts for bookmakers during the Tour de France coverage. The ad breaks are very sedentary: think Rafa Nadal in an open-neck shirt, holding a glass of wine, gently promoting tourism in Mallorca.

The ad-breaks during football assault the senses. Like walking through a pachinko parlour where floating heads with British regional accents bellow at you to gamble simply for the sake of it.

 

[tonysingh]

Have yet to see any adverts for bookmakers during the Tour de France coverage. The ad breaks are very sedentary: think Rafa Nadal in an open-neck shirt, holding a glass of wine, gently promoting tourism in Mallorca.

The ad-breaks during football assault the senses. Like walking through a pachinko parlour where floating heads with British regional accents bellow at you to gamble simply for the sake of it.

There have been a couple of excellent documentaries recently about the evils of the gambling industry and it's ties to football, how it exploits children through advertising etc and how various clubs willingly go along with it. Proper depressing.

 

[editor]

I'd like to think Discovery wouldn't be the place for a ad with gambling but then again TV surprises me sometimes.

Be prepared to be surprised as they also own Eurosport:

Discovery Networks Norway, an arm of the international broadcast group that owns Eurosport, has taken legal action over the move by the Norwegian state to ban the advertising of foreign betting companies by broadcasters.

Ahead of the scheduled law change, which is due to come into effect on January 1, 2021, Discovery has issued a subpoena as it looks to avoid being hit by a sharp decline in advertising from the betting sector.

Norsk Tipping holds a gambling monopoly in Norway and the act passed by the Norwegian parliament in May allows the Norwegian Media Authority (Medietilsynet) to order broadcasters and internet service providers to prevent access to advertisements from betting operators based abroad.

Discovery Networks Norway told Kampanje, the Norwegian media website: “We have subpoenaed the state in connection with the new provision of the Broadcasting Act which, from January 2021, gives the Norwegian Media Authority the means to impose on Norwegian distributors of audiovisual services the prevention or hampering of the
promotion of gambling aimed at Norway, even if it is sent legally from other EEA States.”

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ZsWKhiWb3foJ:https://www.sportbusiness.com/news/discovery-makes-legal-challenge-to-norways-betting-ads-ban/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

 

[mick mccartney]

can we invite Mark Cavendish to join the board ?

 

[PartisanDulwich]

Still look forward optimistically to the day when Rio Ferdinand gets involved -

 

[tonysingh]

Perhaps we should get BrewDog to provide a few halftime tinnies

 

[1927]

Perhaps we should get BrewDog to provide a few halftime tinnies

If they promise you they are solid 24carat gold worth £15k, don’t believe them!

Brewdog: Watchdog urged to probe solid gold can prize claim

 

[scousedom]

Still look forward optimistically to the day when Rio Ferdinand gets involved -

You mean the face of William Hill?

 

[B.I.G]

You mean the face of William Hill?

I thought that was me.

 

[AverageJoe]

Paula , smoking and drinking brands are banned from any commercial involvement in sport . not so gambling .

Heineken are one of the official sponsors of this years Euros.

 

[1927]

Paula , smoking and drinking brands are banned from any commercial involvement in sport . not so gambling .

No they’re not.
Every football team has an official beer, spirit etc.

 

[Cyclodunc]

 

[MrFouldsy]

What an actor! Rooney really captures that feeling of complete exestential collapse.

 

[Pink Panther]

What an actor! Rooney really captures that feeling of complete exestential collapse.

It all looks quite profound with the Spanish subtitles, although admittedly I was watching it on mute.

 

[AveryDave]

Just had a look at Peter Crouch's Twitter and Instagram accounts, and I can't see a single thing about Dulwich Hamlet on them.

Given he's got over 1 million followers across both those platforms wouldn't that be something he could do to help, especially in the week when season tickets have gone on sale?

 

[editor]

Just had a look at Peter Crouch's Twitter and Instagram accounts, and I can't see a single thing about Dulwich Hamlet on them.

Given he's got over 1 million followers across both those platforms wouldn't that be something he could do to help, especially in the week when season tickets have gone on sale?

Him getting involved with Hamlet was a professional engagement. He hasn't suddenly become a mega-fan of the club and I expect he'll pretty much do the minimum 'out of hours' promotion for the club.

After all, its not a labour or love for him. It's a well-paid, well publicised job and an opportunity to raise his profile and add to his growing TV portfolio and status as a football celebrity. And I don't expect he'll stick around after the series has ended.

Nothing wrong with any of that, of course. It's how these things work.

 

[AveryDave]

Him getting involved with Hamlet was a professional engagement. He hasn't suddenly become a mega-fan of the club and I expect he'll pretty much do the minimum 'out of hours' promotion for the club.

After all, its not a labour or love for him. It's a well-paid, well publicised job and an opportunity to raise his profile and add to his growing TV portfolio and status as a football celebrity. And I don't expect he'll stick around after the series has ended.

Nothing wrong with any of that, of course. It's how these things work.

I'm not saying you're not right - and personally I think you probably are - but it doesn't quite tally with the "If I can help in any way", "I’m taking it seriously", "I know this is people’s lives, people’s livelihoods" rheotoric he's actively been putting out there.

He's tagged in all of the club's tweets about season tickets but hasn't engaged with a single one, when he could reach nearly 1 million people with a single retweet. Don't think that's asking a lot?

 

[editor]

I'm not saying you're not right - and personally I think you probably are - but it doesn't quite tally with the "If I can help in any way", "I’m taking it seriously", "I know this is people’s lives, people’s livelihoods" rheotoric he's been actively putting out there.

Thaaaaaaaat's showbiz!

 

[1927]

I'm not saying you're not right - and personally I think you probably are - but it doesn't quite tally with the "If I can help in any way", "I’m taking it seriously", "I know this is people’s lives, people’s livelihoods" rheotoric he's actively been putting out there.

He's tagged in all of the club's tweets about season tickets but hasn't engaged with a single one, when he could reach nearly 1 million people with a single retweet. Don't think that's asking a lot?

He’s only paid when cameras are rolling!
ETA:it maybe that he’s planning a big social media launch in conjunction with the production company, so it might not be a bad thing.

 

[Nivag]

Blimey, people moan about the possible publicity and also moan about the lack of it

 

[scousedom]

Blimey, people moan about the possible publicity and also moan about the lack of it

It’s almost like people really just like moaning.

 

[AveryDave]

It’s almost like people will swallow any old shit that’s shovelled their way.

 

[editor]

I realise that I'm one of the people who's opinion is now easily swept aside and/or ridiculed here, but if anyone can find a way to square Hamlet's stated 'anti gambling' stance with the election of a high profile pro-gambling celebrity, I'd love to hear their workings.

Oh, and scousedom - I'm still waiting for you to explain your comment about my opinion and 'hits'.