Patience (C4)

[danny la rouge]

Based on the beloved, though strangely pitched and flawed, Astrid et Raphaëlle.

I’d been waiting for it, but then missed the fact that 4 episodes have dropped on whatever the C4 player is called these days.

This thread is to remind me, then to discuss it.

 

[cupid_stunt]

All 6 episodes are on My4, I got the first three recorded on my Freesat box ready to watch.

 

[Epona]

Hated it, I've detailed why in the "TV shows other than Netflix etc." thread.

I am Autistic btw.

My hatred mostly summed up by the following:

Spoiler

• There's a hint of "Isn't everyone a bit on the Spectrum though?" about it - No.
• Clichés about autistic people not so much abound, as run rampant throughout the entire thing - we don't all fucking love puzzles and hate physical contact, fuck off
• Another Autistic character comes out with the classic line "So I decided to do what a Neurotypical would do" - er fuck no, it doesn't work like that and it sums up the problems with the portrayal
• The plot of the whole thing is just pretty poor, and the dialogue isn't great
• At the end Patience smiles as she is being hugged by a small child - oh goodness, maybe she can learn to be more "normal" after all
• And we're not all fucking miserable and tormented all the time

Pros:
- The external shots of York were nice, I love York, it's one of my favourite places in the world

 

[danny la rouge]

Hated it, I've detailed why in the "TV shows other than Netflix etc." thread.

I am Autistic btw.

My hatred mostly summed up by the following:

Spoiler

• There's a hint of "Isn't everyone a bit on the Spectrum though?" about it - No.
• Clichés about autistic people not so much abound, as run rampant throughout the entire thing - we don't all fucking love puzzles and hate physical contact, fuck off
• Another Autistic character comes out with the classic line "So I decided to do what a Neurotypical would do" - er fuck no, it doesn't work like that and it sums up the problems with the portrayal
• The plot of the whole thing is just pretty poor, and the dialogue isn't great
• At the end Patience smiles as she is being hugged by a small child - oh goodness, maybe she can learn to be more "normal" after all
• And we're not all fucking miserable and tormented all the time

Pros:
- The external shots of York were nice, I love York, it's one of my favourite places in the world

Have you seen the French original? (Sorry if this repeats what you’ve said elsewhere).

 

[Epona]

Have you seen the French original? (Sorry if this repeats what you’ve said elsewhere).

I haven't, I'd be up for watching it if I can find it.

 

[danny la rouge]

I haven't, I'd be up for watching it if I can find it.

I have to warn you it is flawed, and it does seem to me to repeat stereotypes, and some just odd stuff, but apparently one of the main writers is autistic.

 

[nottsgirl]

It looks a bit crap.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I have to warn you it is flawed, and it does seem to me to repeat stereotypes, and some just odd stuff, but apparently one of the main writers is autistic.

Apparently the actress that plays Patience in this version is autistic herself.

 

[Epona]

Apparently the actress that plays Patience in this version is autistic herself.

Aye, if only that had been enough to salvage it

 

[cupid_stunt]

Aye, if only that had been enough to salvage it

You're putting me right off even watching now.

 

[danny la rouge]

You're putting me right off even watching now.

I’m watching it anyway, but indeed!

 

[May Kasahara]

I hated the trailer so much, for all the reasons Epona posted above, that watching the actual show was never an option.

 

[Poot]

It did sound a bit cringe. I won't bother in that case.

I suppose well-meaning, clumsy representation is necessary in some cases, in order for things to evolve. But I'm not sure this is that.

 

[cesare]

Yep I found that smile really irritating too.

Was the series written by someone autistic?

Edit: just saw Danny's #6

 

[Sir Belchalot]

I haven't, I'd be up for watching it if I can find it.

It was shown on More 4 as Astrid: Murder in Paris so should be available, there’s a new series on the way too.

 

[danny la rouge]

It was shown on More 4 as Astrid: Murder in Paris so should be available, there’s a new series on the way too.

Oh, really? It felt like it had wound up at the end of the last series.

 

[pipcas]

What was the message on the box? she peeled it off. Ep6

 

[Aaronf]

Glad there's a thread for this as well.

Was so looking forward to it as Ella Maisy Purvis (Patience) was in A Kind Of Spark which I absolutely loved and was also such a good representation for Autistic people from the author of the book to the three main lead actresses So happy at Autistic actors playing autistic parts and any parts out there forming the basis of a show.

Anyway, probably a pre subjective view of knowing I would like it automatically so hard to be critical/recognise any bot so good things.

Saw the 1st two last week but haven't caught 3&4 yet as swapped to Traitors live 9pm. Thought it was good and the two parter was good with the mystery of the murders then felt a bit rushed even with the perpetrator garnering sympathy for why they did it.

Haven't seen Astrid but saw that mentioned elsewhere and need to watch it also