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The ever astute John Siracusa writes: http://hypercritical.co/2013/09/02/nintendo-in-crisis
Nintendo Reveals The Hideous $130 2DS, Will Cut Wii U Price To $299
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elbows
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Kid_Eternity actually posted a thread about IOS gaming where they were planning to release a semi-official joypad attachment. If that happens then I think it'll definitely work, but currently you have the possibility of making your game joypad aware, but hardly anyone does because hardly anyone has the attachments. And as a developer, you can't know which one they've got. So the game has to be developed to the lowest common denominator: the touch screen
Make them 'official' though, and you will have a set of constraints to work within and you might know that say 60% of the people buying your game are likely to have the adapter, so you can make the call to include the advanced input and only lose 40% of your potential audience, instead of anything up to what? 99%?
Standardisation is the key. Until that's nailed, touch screens are not there yet.
It's not an if, its a definite. The spec & software side of things is official Apple, coming with iOS 7, while the hardware itself will be made by a range of other hardware companies rather than Apple. There are a couple of different versions of the spec, including one which does not not act as a case round the iOS device and is therefore well suited to tablets. The number of buttons etc, their sensitivity and the deadzones of the sticks are part of the spec and Apple will strictly enforce such standards. I don't know when the first versions will be out but it should be well before the end of the year.
The main limitation to this plan is that Apple are not allowing software developers to make games that only work with the hardware controller, you still have to include support for those who don't own any kind of joypad and will just be using the touchscreen.
Fez909
toilet expert
Pointless then.
mwgdrwg
Be a Pisces. Jam.
Quite a big niche it is too. 32.48 million 3DS consoles sold thus far, and Nintendo are yet to release a proper Pokemon game. I'm sure when they release Pokemon X and Y next month they will sell one or two more
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mwgdrwg
Be a Pisces. Jam.
mwgdrwg
Be a Pisces. Jam.
elbows
Well-Known Member
I wouldn't go that far at all. What I expect will happen is that certain genres of game continue to include crappy virtual controls on the touchscreen, but will play much better with the proper hardware. And the developers will be well aware that the casual/mobile equivalent of hardcore gamers will get themselves a hardware controller.
Fez909
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Well, I hope you're right, but I have my doubts. Better mobile gaming on IOS benefits everyone as it'll cause Android to up its game too
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Time for another nintendo forum?
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
It's shit and won't save Nintendo from its destiny to become the gaming equivalent of AOL.
Fez909
toilet expert
What do you find shit about it?
mwgdrwg
Be a Pisces. Jam.
Yeah, 3DS....what a flop. Only 40 million sold.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Compared to 500 million Apple ID users or the billion or so Android users? You're an idiot if you can't see that 40 million of a dying paradigm is shit.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Good piece on Nintendos demise:
And also this:
Yup. This is why some people (who's opinion I generally respect but not on this issue) are basically 30 somethings sticking their nostalgic heads in the sand.
Full article here.
And also this:
Yup. This is why some people (who's opinion I generally respect but not on this issue) are basically 30 somethings sticking their nostalgic heads in the sand.
Full article here.
tommers
Fuck it, it's fine.
I'm not sure that's true. I'd much rather give my son a 2ds than an iPad. People may not want to carry more than 1 device but you're not carrying it, your kid is. And an iPad is 600 quid or whatever. No way am I giving that to a 3 year old (and we don't have one).
And his kid might not know who Nintendo are but that's his fault. Mine does. We have a Mario quiz every night before he goes to bed.
And his kid might not know who Nintendo are but that's his fault. Mine does. We have a Mario quiz every night before he goes to bed.
editor
hiraethified
As in report a profit of $25.9 million?
mwgdrwg
Be a Pisces. Jam.
In other anecdotal evidence, my 6 year old son and all of his friends all love Pokemon and Mario. So?
All these 'Apple advocates' (which is just another term for fanbois) and their tech blogs damning Nintendo, they ALL want Nintendo games on iOS. If that doesn't prove the rock-solid demand for Nintendo's quality games and beloved franchises, I don't know what does. Hell, wouldn't you all rather be playing Animal crossing or Pokemon, rather than 4-pictures-one word, os whatever free to play (lot to pay) shit is in vogue this week? Admit it.
All these 'Apple advocates' (which is just another term for fanbois) and their tech blogs damning Nintendo, they ALL want Nintendo games on iOS. If that doesn't prove the rock-solid demand for Nintendo's quality games and beloved franchises, I don't know what does. Hell, wouldn't you all rather be playing Animal crossing or Pokemon, rather than 4-pictures-one word, os whatever free to play (lot to pay) shit is in vogue this week? Admit it.
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Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Yeah Nintendo has a bright future....
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
I've love Nintendo to return to their glory years rather than another tired rehash of Mario Kart. I'd love nothing more than Nintendo to put their considerable creative talents to use on ALL MOBILE PLATFORMS thus ensuring their brand of gaming (or at least what they used to be) survives in the coming mobile computing age.
I'm not harsh on Nintendo out of some brand loyalty (I've owned more Nintendo products than any other company), I just read the numbers, the projections, look at what I see people using (I remember a time I'd see people playing a DS on the tube all the time, not anymore, not even kids) and draw the best conclusions I can.
I'm not burying my head in the sand unlike some of the gamers on here is all...hard truth but there it is...
I'm not harsh on Nintendo out of some brand loyalty (I've owned more Nintendo products than any other company), I just read the numbers, the projections, look at what I see people using (I remember a time I'd see people playing a DS on the tube all the time, not anymore, not even kids) and draw the best conclusions I can.
I'm not burying my head in the sand unlike some of the gamers on here is all...hard truth but there it is...
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
I'm not sure that's true. I'd much rather give my son a 2ds than an iPad. People may not want to carry more than 1 device but you're not carrying it, your kid is. And an iPad is 600 quid or whatever. No way am I giving that to a 3 year old (and we don't have one).
And his kid might not know who Nintendo are but that's his fault. Mine does. We have a Mario quiz every night before he goes to bed.
You can get an ipad for just over 300 quid and I'd have no problem given one to my kids if I had them at any age they could reasonably use them.
fen_boy
Exits gracefully.
Yeah Nintendo has a bright future....
I don't see the 3DS on that graph. Am I missing something?
mwgdrwg
Be a Pisces. Jam.
I don't need the 3D part of the 3DS, and I definitely want to get hold of Pokemon X/Y, so I would happily buy a 2D version of the 3DS, particularly if it was a fair sight cheaper and had a better battery life. But it has to be clamshell so that I can put it in my jacket pocket. This non-clamshell version is useless to me.
fractionMan
Custom Title
I'm not sure that's true. I'd much rather give my son a 2ds than an iPad. People may not want to carry more than 1 device but you're not carrying it, your kid is. And an iPad is 600 quid or whatever. No way am I giving that to a 3 year old (and we don't have one).
And his kid might not know who Nintendo are but that's his fault. Mine does. We have a Mario quiz every night before he goes to bed.
In other anecdotal evidence, my 6 year old son and all of his friends all love Pokemon and Mario. So?
All these 'Apple advocates' (which is just another term for fanbois) and their tech blogs damning Nintendo, they ALL want Nintendo games on iOS. If that doesn't prove the rock-solid demand for Nintendo's quality games and beloved franchises, I don't know what does. Hell, wouldn't you all rather be playing Animal crossing or Pokemon, rather than 4-pictures-one word, os whatever free to play (lot to pay) shit is in vogue this week? Admit it.
this. Also, regardless of the anecdote posted in that article above kids do what nintentos. I have tons of my own anecdotes to back it up.
I do play games on my Android pad. However, I have over 200 hours sunk into Pokemon Black 2 alone on the DS. Nothing produced to date on any tablet could possibly get close to that. £100 for a DS + £30 for the game means that Black 2 is heading rapidly towards the 50p per hour mark even if I just bought the DS for that single game alone. Then you add in the 200+ hours on Advance Wars 2, and the hundreds of hours on various other games and you get to the conclusion that the NDS is a seriously good value bit of entertainment in its own right.
