I don't even know what that is - but I assume its NORN related.
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I don't even know what that is - but I assume its NORN related.
WHAT A LOAD OF OLD BOLLOCKS!it's a bit like trying to reclaim the England flag off the EDL. A lost cause.
The ONLY reason the far right have 'claimed' the English flag &/or the Union Jack is because people like you spout shit like this.
Go to an England game...is everyone who flies an England flag EDL?
Time for some of us to get our England and Union flags out of the cupboards and bring them to games...you know...the ones that we proudly have Dulwich Hamlet &/or south London on them.
Believe me I have these flags and I am most certainly NOT EDL!!!!
To say I am insulted by your comment is an understatement... time for you to be 'offended' by again then....
Anyone that flies a flag to show they are "proud" of England is a bit odd. What is England currently doing to make anyone so proud?
Whether someone is EDL or whatever else their reason. What does the England flag mean to them that they are so proud of?
People that love the flag could move to the USA and would love that pledge of allegiance.
Whether someone is EDL or whatever else their reason. What does the England flag mean to them that they are so proud of?
People that love the flag could move to the USA and would love that pledge of allegiance.
clog
she seems to like to nitpick and moan a lot
Not sure I said I was offended by anything. I have an England flag somewhere, took it to WC2006. I wouldn't bring it out of the cupboard at the moment, it has too many negative connotations.
I said it was hard to reclaim the England flag from the EDL etc, not that everyone who has an England flag is EDL.
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It is my country. It is where I am from....and I am proud of our inclusiveness, despite the right wing elements that try to hijack MY flag.
Back in our promotion season, 2012/13, we were at home on a Tuesday night on St. George's Day.
Our website headlined: Let's create a St. George's celebration of colour!
The strapline that followed was: It's often been said that the English don't celebrate St. George's Day enough. Well let's change that at Champion Hill this year
The article that followed explained:
"For St. George's Day is on Tuesday 23rd April, which coincides with our home Ryman League Division One South match with Crawley Down Gatwick, as we continue with our promotion push.
There are some out there who have their own agenda for St. George's Day, in society, who use the occasion to peddle their myths and lies about asylum seekers, refugees and foreigners in general, to push ther' English' cause.
You won't hear any of that at Dulwich Hamlet! As a Club we are proud to be based in our great capital, where our fanbase is the most vibrant, buzzing & all-inclusive of the London non-league clubs. We don't care where you are from, or what your heritage is, as long as you love PINK & BLUE!
And St. George himself would appreciate that too, as not only is he the patron saint of England, but also in the following places: Canada, Croatia, Portugal, Cyprus, Greece, Georgia, Serbia, Bulgaria, Romania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and the Republic of Macedonia. Cities include Moscow in Russia, Genova in Italy, Ljubljana in Slovenia, Beirut in Lebanon, Qormi and Victoria in Malta and many others. It is also celebrated in the old Crown of Catalonia-Aragon in Spain—Aragon, Catalonia, Valencia, and Majorca. To name but a few!
Why not help the Hamlet celebrate the fact that London is the greatest city in the world, where people from all creeds and countries mix together, indeed play football in the same Dulwich Hamlet teams by bringing a St. George's Dulwich Hamlet decorated flag to the Crawley Down Gatwick game, if you are proud to be English? And if you are not English yourself, but love being in England then why not have your own flag behind the goal alongside, from the country you are from, or where you feel your roots are, and we can have a riot of colour behind the goal!"
I hope that answers your question on why I am proud to be English, and proud to have Dulwich Hamlet on my national flag.
This idea was one of the first early community engagement ideas I had, that was my first season on the Football Committee. And it was widely picked up and praised by fans all over the Ryman League, on a number of messageboards.
Back in our promotion season, 2012/13, we were at home on a Tuesday night on St. George's Day.
Our website headlined: Let's create a St. George's celebration of colour!
The strapline that followed was: It's often been said that the English don't celebrate St. George's Day enough. Well let's change that at Champion Hill this year
The article that followed explained:
"For St. George's Day is on Tuesday 23rd April, which coincides with our home Ryman League Division One South match with Crawley Down Gatwick, as we continue with our promotion push.
There are some out there who have their own agenda for St. George's Day, in society, who use the occasion to peddle their myths and lies about asylum seekers, refugees and foreigners in general, to push ther' English' cause.
You won't hear any of that at Dulwich Hamlet! As a Club we are proud to be based in our great capital, where our fanbase is the most vibrant, buzzing & all-inclusive of the London non-league clubs. We don't care where you are from, or what your heritage is, as long as you love PINK & BLUE!
And St. George himself would appreciate that too, as not only is he the patron saint of England, but also in the following places: Canada, Croatia, Portugal, Cyprus, Greece, Georgia, Serbia, Bulgaria, Romania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and the Republic of Macedonia. Cities include Moscow in Russia, Genova in Italy, Ljubljana in Slovenia, Beirut in Lebanon, Qormi and Victoria in Malta and many others. It is also celebrated in the old Crown of Catalonia-Aragon in Spain—Aragon, Catalonia, Valencia, and Majorca. To name but a few!
Why not help the Hamlet celebrate the fact that London is the greatest city in the world, where people from all creeds and countries mix together, indeed play football in the same Dulwich Hamlet teams by bringing a St. George's Dulwich Hamlet decorated flag to the Crawley Down Gatwick game, if you are proud to be English? And if you are not English yourself, but love being in England then why not have your own flag behind the goal alongside, from the country you are from, or where you feel your roots are, and we can have a riot of colour behind the goal!"
I hope that answers your question on why I am proud to be English, and proud to have Dulwich Hamlet on my national flag.
This idea was one of the first early community engagement ideas I had, that was my first season on the Football Committee. And it was widely picked up and praised by fans all over the Ryman League, on a number of messageboards.
The ONLY way we stop the England flag having EDL negative connotations is to TAKE THEM OUT OF THE CUPBOARD!
Or consign it to the dustbin like so many traditions that belong in the past.
And I can't believe that anyone thinks England is inclusive but hey, its the off season.
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hiraethified
Yes we did. It looked OK, but when I first went to Hamlet, I loved the fact that there wasn't a load of St Georges or Union flags all over the place. Made it feel more inclusive and welcoming to me.
YTC
Human Man
Well, maybe we should bring it back. It'll sit nicely along all the other nations flags we have! Inclusive means inclusive for everyone, not just people that don't like the flags.
Personally, call me old fashioned if you like, I'd love us to be inclusive of those who like their own national flag, whatever country it is, including England and Great Britain.
Political correctness gone mad innit!
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hiraethified
clog
she seems to like to nitpick and moan a lot
Not calling you old fashioned, just saying it's not as simple as all that, sadly.
I personally see no need to wave England flags around all over the place. We're in England already, we don't need reminding of it.
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hiraethified
#truefanvote
YTC
Human Man
Thats the Spirit!
Lucy Fur
Well-Known Member
as a representative of the media, I find your lack of impartiality concerning. even the bbc are more discreet than your good self...
There have been Scotland flags at Hamlet games. ALL flags are welcome, as far as I am concerned.
Not even gonna attempt to take the bait.This way to Champion Hill!
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hiraethified
Like it or not, that's the association that a lot of non-English people make when they see a load of St George flags flapping about. And don't blame me! It's just how it is - even the English say so!
St George's flag is a racist symbol says a quarter of the English
And like it or not...let's have some views on hanging, immigrants and so on...
I'm with the 75% that don't see it as a racist symbol then...
I'm with the 75% that don't see it as a racist symbol then...
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hiraethified
FYI, that's 75% of English people.
