National Walkout Against Fees 24.11.10

[Lock&Light]

indeed they can. hence the British political party, The Liberal Democrats.

All Liberals are obviously the same no matter where they come from. Really?

 

[chilango]

Didn't Russia have a Liberal Party led by a raving right-wing loony? Anyone can use the name Liberal.

True. But the Italian Liberals weren't a too dissimilar beast to the modern Lib Dems

After Valerio Zanone took over in 1976, the party moved to the centre. The new secretary opened to the Socialists, hoping to put in action a sort of Lib-Lab cooperation, similar to that experimented in the United Kingdom from 1977 to 1979 between Labour and Liberals.
In 1983 the PLI finally entered in the government coalition with the Christian Democracy (DC), the Socialist Party (PSI), and the smaller Italian Democratic Socialist Party (PSDI) and Italian Republican Party (PRI); the coalition was dubbed for a long time pentapartito, or "five-parties". In the 1980s, the party was also led by Renato Altissimo and Alfredo Biondi.

UK Lib Dems

International affiliation Liberal International
European affiliation European Liberal Democrat and Reform Party

Italian Liberals

International affiliation Liberal International
European affiliation European Liberal Democrat and Reform Party

 

[killer b]

All Liberals are obviously the same no matter where they come from. Really?

that wasn't what i said, you prick.

 

[frogwoman]

There's something new. The Left-wing using the BNP to attack the LibDems.

I think describing the BNP as "Nazi" etc when it bears no resemblance to the electoral strategy the BNP are now using on the ground (and has no bearing over the fact that mainstream parties are adopting policies formerly favoured by the BNP) is something to "attack" neo-liberal parties over, yes.

 

[chilango]

So the Italian Liberal party, which was part of the same International and same European Party as the Liberal Democrats and had previously been in coalition with the centre left, merged in 1995 with the MSI, the fascist inheritors of Mussolini's legacy.

(sorry for the de-rail)

 

[Lock&Light]

The BNP is a Fascist Party and that is, for me, the same as Nazi.

 

[frogwoman]

The BNP is a Fascist Party and that is, for me, the same as Nazi.

That's a stupid thing to say on so many levels.

 

[Lock&Light]

That's easy for you to say.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

LOL Pretty fucking funny what the first bit of paper says.

 

[Blagsta]

The BNP is a Fascist Party and that is, for me, the same as Nazi.

That's not historically accurate.

 

[frogwoman]

So the Italian Liberal party, which was part of the same International and same European Party as the Liberal Democrats and had previously been in coalition with the centre left, merged in 1995 with the MSI, the fascist inheritors of Mussolini's legacy.

(sorry for the de-rail)

Wow interesting, i never knew this (and it would be interesting to write about as i want to do a post or an article or something at some stage on the topic of "liberalism" and its relationship to fascism). Have a link about this?

 

[moon23]

i think you mean holocaust.

More of your pedantry gone wrong, the Holocaust was a Genocide.

 

[Lock&Light]

That's not historically accurate.

I know about the differences between the Fascists and the Nazis. It is their similarity I am commenting on.

 

[dylans]

LOL Pretty fucking funny what the first bit of paper says.

hahahahah. Lib dems should be tied to a chair and forced to watch that until they die.

 

[butchersapron]

I wonder what eno thinks now?

(brilliantly apt title though - An Ending (Ascent))

 

[frogwoman]

What the hell is that choir music reminiscent of 28 days later doing in the background?

 

[butchersapron]

What the hell is that choir music reminiscent of 28 days later doing in the background?

That one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever made - it's An Ending (Ascent) by lib-dem supporter Brian Eno.

 

[moon23]

Yes the Lib Dems will join the BNP of course, and we would help Nazi to kill Jews too for a minsterial car- Honestly grow up this is a pathetic.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

I wonder what eno thinks now?

(brilliantly apt title though - An Ending (Ascent))

It's a shame one of my favourite pieces of music got used on this shite but it's very appropriate.

 

[frogwoman]

That one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever made - it's An Ending (Ascent) by lib-dem supporter Brian Eno.

Ah OK, I didn't get to listen to it properly (I was right - it was in n28 days later i think!) I'm going to have to listen to it properly without that twat drowning it out!!

Poor eno

 

[Doctor Carrot]

Yes the Lib Dems will join the BNP of course, and we would help Nazi to kill Jews too for a minsterial car- Honestly grow up this is a pathetic.

What's your response to BA's excellent post about there being absolutely nothing about raising of fees in the coalition agreement and there actually be provisions for lib dem MPs to abstain?

 

[dylans]

Yes the Lib Dems will join the BNP of course, and we would help Nazi to kill Jews too for a minsterial car- Honestly grow up this is a pathetic.

Of course not. That would be silly. They will just hold Camerons coat tails while he drives us all back to the workhouse and the soup kitchen. But hey they will provide cushions.

 

[Lock&Light]

while he drives us all back to the workhouse and the soup kitchen.

People worry about the exact meaning of the word "most" while accepting this sort of bullshit without question.

 

[frogwoman]

Listening to it now - it is good.

 

[Streathamite]

There's something new. The Left-wing using the BNP to attack the LibDems.

except she's not, is she, she's pointing out that Moon23, not for the first time, has got his facts wrong and his talking shite

 

[Streathamite]

The BNP is a Fascist Party and that is, for me, the same as Nazi.

actually, they're more like the French FN: far-right, ultra-nationalist, xenophobic, racist, but not fascist

 

[Lock&Light]

The Freedom Party in Holland doesn't call itself Fascist as Wilders knows that the Dutch still remember the Occupation. But Fascist is what they are or will be as soon as they gain any power.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Yes the Lib Dems will join the BNP of course, and we would help Nazi to kill Jews too for a minsterial car- Honestly grow up this is a pathetic.

Indeed it is. But it's also the logical conclusion to the argument you are presenting.

 

[Pickman's model]

Yes the Lib Dems will join the BNP of course, and we would help Nazi to kill Jews too for a minsterial car- Honestly grow up this is a pathetic.

i don't think the bnp would admit former lib dems - they do have some standards, you know.

 

[Pickman's model]

That's easy for you to say.

because it's true.

every time you start posting on a thread you embarrass yourself. you show yourself to be thick as pigshit. why do you bother?