cuppa tee
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My Fathers Place on Coldharbour Lane to become a cocktail bar
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hiraethified
They've started smashing down the old sign. I found their cheering when it crashed to the ground rather sad.
http://www.brixtonbuzz.com/2014/07/...ce-turns-into-the-shrub-shutter-cocktail-bar/
Peanut Monkey
Flea-Bit of CHL.
I just don't see this being a success. Who are they catering to?
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hiraethified
Most likely, the same people who are currently packing out the new Seven cocktail bar further up Coldharbour Lane, and the same people who pack in to the Village every weekend. This will become another wonderful 'destination' place to squeak about on Instagram.
SarfLondoner
KenDoddsDadsDogsDead.
The owners describe themselves as "cocktail counselors" 
SarfLondoner
KenDoddsDadsDogsDead.
I suppose it wont be long before that whole stretch is transformed into fancy eateries and vibetastic bars.
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hiraethified
Yep, and that will just increase the divide between nu-Brixton and the estate opposite.
SarfLondoner
KenDoddsDadsDogsDead.
Its strange that for years the council and old bill chose to ignore the anti social behavior and drug dealing that went on in that parade and acre lane and around the pow. But as soon as a trendy bar/cafe put in there planning permission the dealers are busted and moved on, as are the street drinkers.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
The owners describe themselves as "cocktail counselors"
Does make you wonder what the fuck they're on about, doesn't it? Are they mental health counsellors who drink lots of cocktails, or perhaps who prescribe cocktails to their patients?
Or perhaps you go in the bar and they counsel you on what cocktail will re-align your chakras?
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Yes, terribly strange, and nothing at all to do with both the council itself, and the local councillors being eager to gentrify their wards. After all, IIRC one of Coldharbour Ward's councillors (at least) has made it clear that they think there's too much social housing.
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hiraethified
In my world you, can never have enough social housing.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
In mine too.
Peanut Monkey
Flea-Bit of CHL.
Undoubtedly that's who it's aimed at - can't see them going out of their way to welcome in their immediate neighbours - but unless you know it's there I can't see it being the sort of place many people will stumble across. Why head that far down CHL when there's plenty of drinking options in the centre of Brixton?
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hiraethified
I don't think the population of the large - and quite deprived - council estate opposite is particularly in their target demographic, nor do I expect them to make any effort to reach out to include them in their shiny plans.
That's gentrification for you.
Peanut Monkey
Flea-Bit of CHL.
That's also my point. Without reaching out to people living immediately around them and making them feel they're welcome, I can't see it doing well. Brixton doesn't need another hipster drinking hole. What that part of Brixton does need is somewhere for locals to have a drink.
I won't be visiting the new bar, although it's easily the nearest place I can get a drink, as I'd feel uncomfortable being there for various reasons.
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hiraethified
I don't think it matters any more because bars like this don't need or particularly care about the support of the locals, when their target audience is the relatively well off one that streams into town most nights. This bar is here to serve the Village-type crowd and it's certainly close enough to entice then down.
I feel sorry for the rest of the long-established businesses on that strip because they'll soon be vulnerable to immense rent hikes once the landlords see the money to be made.
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
A much older sign has been revealed:
Revealing the nature of change. Behind that might be another sign, and another.
Strangerdanger
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You're right. I think it may be aimed at people like me. I love cocktails, I even prefer cocktail bars over pubs if I'm completely honest, but I cant see myself walking there when there are so many places right here. I would probably go to see what it is like, but generally speaking I'm far too lazy.
On another note I tried that new bar on Coldharbour Lane this weekend. It was alright actually. I liked that they have a fairly extensive cocktail menu, but also that the place didn't feel too polished. (Oh God, I think I may actually be a hipster.) I agree with editor though, the first thing I said to my other half was that its the beginning of the end for the other businesses on that bit of CHL. The place was packed.
Peanut Monkey
Flea-Bit of CHL.
How'd they get away with that when they've got residents directly above?
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Rushy
basically a scrotum
That's a bold statement.
Are you sure it is a new licence and not just the old one transferred? I may be wrong but it strikes me that, given the generous hours, it is probably the same licence which My Father's Place had in place for years. I'd be surprised if Lambeth would give a new one like that anymore.
Are you sure it is a new licence and not just the old one transferred? I may be wrong but it strikes me that, given the generous hours, it is probably the same licence which My Father's Place had in place for years. I'd be surprised if Lambeth would give a new one like that anymore.
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hiraethified
I just mean that the latest wave of nu-Brixton entrepreneurs have the wealth, the contacts and the background to get what they want. They have the resources to iron over any hiccups, be flexible in their plans and almost always get what they like. That's what money does.That's a bold statement.
Are you sure it is a new licence and not just the old one transferred? I may be wrong but it strikes me that, given the generous hours, it is probably the same licence which My Father's Place had in place for years. I'd be surprised if Lambeth would give a new one like that anymore.
Or perhaps they're the new sort that knows how to scoop up fat grants and awards on their way. You know, the sort of thing that local people running small 'uncool' businesses probably have no idea about.
Rushy
basically a scrotum
But where did you get the info about hours? If they have just taken over the old one then (almost) anyone who took on the lease could have kept the licence. No ironing, grants or contacts necessary.
I'd be staggered to discover that they have wangled a new licence on the terms you described.
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hiraethified
The Londonist posted it up.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Larry's 2006 license application was for:
• Hours open to the public 12:00 to 03:00 Monday to Sunday.
• Supply of alcohol and recorded music to the public 12:00 to 03:00 Monday to Sunday.
• Provision of facilities for dancing for the public 18:00 to 03:00 Monday to Sunday and
• Provision of late night refreshment to the public 23:00 to 03:00 Monday to Sunday.
No idea if he got that - but I certainly went in a few times 1-2 am in the week.
• Hours open to the public 12:00 to 03:00 Monday to Sunday.
• Supply of alcohol and recorded music to the public 12:00 to 03:00 Monday to Sunday.
• Provision of facilities for dancing for the public 18:00 to 03:00 Monday to Sunday and
• Provision of late night refreshment to the public 23:00 to 03:00 Monday to Sunday.
No idea if he got that - but I certainly went in a few times 1-2 am in the week.
T & P
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The last time I saw that expression in this forum in reference to the opening of a bar, all hell broke loose
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hiraethified
Soft launch is the new pop up. Or something.The last time I saw that expression in this forum in reference to the opening of a bar, all hell broke loose
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