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'moviedrome' strand on bbc2 - in fond memory

DaveCinzano

WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
following on from my “if you ran the local cinema” thread, i was thinking about the ‘moviedrome’ strand that used to run on bbc2.

when i first came across it it was presented by alec cox, that plug-like anglo emigre to californian film school who knocked up minor classics like ‘repo man’ and ‘walker’, and amateur parapolitics buff. back in those days he struck a real balance beteen classy b movies, like ‘gator’ and ‘q the winged serpent’, and the supposedly ‘proper’ canon of movie masterpieces. he also introduced me to ‘get carter’ (and to the pulp paperback it was based on, ‘jack’s return home’, and the music of roy budd) and to the work of john carpenter. good things, obviously. not only that, but his mini-lectures on the films he presented were full of intricate detail as well as informed judgements on technical aspects, and on the more subjective elements from which one’s own opinion of a film derives.

yet after hald a dozen cox seasons, the beeb brought in mark cousins. now, i have nothing against the chap, but he seemed to bring the dullest, most anally retentive edge to ‘moviedrome’, full of deconstructionist nonsense and over-egged pathos, like some book-monkey with half of term of greek tragedy under his belt and a teenage romanticist’s fodness for self-absorption. now i have no doubt that he knows his stuff, but he irritated the crap out of me. his curation struck a faux academic note, which contrasted with cox’s rich contextualisation and dry wit, had the effect of making him sound like a minor lecturer on a mickey mouse course at a cash-rich former poly. and when you think about cox’s background - he is dawson leary, ffs![/i] - it’s pretty incredible that he’s the one who comes across as the bloke in the pub nattering about some cool videos he’s just rented.

and the peculiar thing is that after ‘moviedrome’ melted down, cousins got the gig curating that movie festival, and also had that short, irregular series of in-depth interviews with big movie actors - and these i thought were marvellous. i mean, getting two hours with lauren bacall, or james coburn, talking to each of them about their careers and their acting, that was gold dust (and it’s always good to see lauren :D ). in that setting - sitting back, quietly asking thoughtful, detailed questions - cousins shone.

anyways, is ‘moviedrome’ ever coming back? and what is cox doing these days?
 
ah, the Coxdrome slot, where every other week there'd be an alex cox movie on ;)

actually, yeh, it was great. whereas Cousins acted like he'd swallowed Sight & Sound for breakfast.

i actually love Mark Kermode - for a committed christian he's actually a sound and liberal fella and he's got great hair.
 
bristle-krs said:
yet after hald a dozen cox seasons, the beeb brought in mark cousins. now, i have nothing against the chap, but he seemed to bring the dullest, most anally retentive edge to ‘moviedrome’, full of deconstructionist nonsense and over-egged pathos, like some book-monkey with half of term of greek tragedy under his belt and a teenage romanticist’s fodness for self-absorption.

yes, agree completely. His portmentoed 'I feel' and 'Its often said' warbling at the end of his sentences really grated after... oh about 10 seconds...I feel :mad: I loved Cox's dry weariness and preferred his choice of films.

Dub - what a shocker that you think Kermodes got a great haircut! :p
 
Dubversion said:
ah, the Coxdrome slot, where every other week there'd be an alex cox movie on ;)

actually, yeh, it was great. whereas Cousins acted like he'd swallowed Sight & Sound for breakfast.

i actually love Mark Kermode - for a committed christian he's actually a sound and liberal fella and he's got great hair.

you just liked his rockabilly bass playing :p :D

kermode has been a committed anti-censorship advocate for many years. the tom dewe matthews book on movie censorship (uh, called 'censored') relies on kermode's expertise in a lot of places, and he's always been very articulate about movies. a passionate film-lover, who was not ashamed to do slots for both mark radcliffe & lard and simon mayo :eek: not too keen on his late review stuff though.
 
Dubversion said:
ah, the Coxdrome slot, where every other week there'd be an alex cox movie on ;)

i still think 'walker' was one of the most exciting films i've ever seen :)
 
It the way Cousins speaks that makes him sound like such a collossal wanker. The content is not actually that bad.

I loved Movidrome and Cox, though Sid & Nacy is terrible (but thats another thread).
 
i used to see mark kermode in my local hmv in southampton quite a lot.
yeah cousins was annoying, i think it was his v.e.r.y. p.r.e.c.i.s.e. m.a.n.n.e.r.
 
BUMP!
Reminscing about how great Moviedrome was last night - one of the best things to have been on tv. What a shame they dont bring it back. Sitcking movies up on a channel like Film4 jsut isnt the same.

Ive been looking about on the net to remember what films I might have seen on it, and there's a list here of everything that was on it, under Alex Cox's reign at least
http://www.lovefilm.com/community/view_list.html?page=1&customer_list_id=14821&e=

I was quite young when it was on. One film that particularly confused me at the time was Vamp with Grace Jones (

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Its a great list anyway, so I guess you can try to recreate the experience - minus Alex Coxs intros
 
This is what we want - Moviedrome


“And as you might expect goes in for lashings of the old solarised images, and weird colour, and bizarre superimpositions, faithfully recreating the hallucinogenic experience in order to prolong the travelogues, and render the bunk-ups more artistic...” :D
 
I have rashly embarked upon watching all the Moviedrome films in chronological order.
I watched The Wicker Man last night and loved it, singing along to it like it was Mamma Mia. Someone should stage The Wicker Man as a full musical. Why has this not happened?
Noticed loads of things that I'd not spotted before - how weird the confections in the sweet shop are, the writing on the black board, the spooky caravan of chanting kids carrying an effigy of a dead baby. Creepy as fuck.
Using this brilliant tumblr as a guide:
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I saw The Hired Hand last night. It's great. It's the film Peter Fonda did after Easy Rider. Fonda costarrs with Verna Bloom and Warren Oates - it's kind of a feminist Western in a way with much of the plot focusing on a former bad man returning to the family he abandoned, but is he doing it to take responsibility for them, or just cos he's tired of the desperado lifestyle?
Some typical early 70s weird experimental touches such as peculiar montages and cuts - they don't add much to the film, but its got a cracking script from Alan Sharp (who has an interesting cv) and crackling performances from the leads, and a deliciously nasty villain.
I see Oates and Fonda have been paired in quite a few films. Need to check them out. Oates is such a great actor. Not just a badass, his performance here shows his more human side.
 
Johnny Guitar next. Loved it. Nicholas Ray directing Joan Crawford and Mercedes McCambridge (Satan off of The Exorcist!) in this lurid Technicolor Western. I'd already read about this film before when reading about Crawford and her bad behaviour, so couldn't help unfavourably comparing Crawford's performance with that of McCambridge. (Sterling Hayden as the titular Johnny barely gets a look in here. This film is about two women, the men are just there to execute the plot). Crawford is of the old stentorian school of acting, all stilted delivery and flashing eyes, while McCambridge is more convincing, though her character is absolutely barking. (she looks oddly like Doon McKichan here).
Quite a political film - written by proxy by one of McCarthy's black listed writers - it's obviously saying something about mob rule and the incitement of hatred.
 
I watched The Long Hair Of Death.
There's not much to recommend it. It's very thereminy and atmospheric, and Barbara Steele is very striking, but it's pretty dull and uninspired - too much wandering down castle corridors, secret doors opening and closing etc.
 
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