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Large Hadron Collider

Well I suppose it makes more sense than the billions wasted on manned space flight .. the trillions wasted on nuclear weapons is even more obvious.

Oddly enough, the urban legend that the one thing we'd got out of the Apollo programme was Teflon was spread to distract attention from the fact that Teflon was developed to line uranium enrichment machines, for the nuclear weapons programme :mad:
 
Oddly enough, the urban legend that the one thing we'd got out of the Apollo programme was Teflon was spread to distract attention from the fact that Teflon was developed to line uranium enrichment machines, for the nuclear weapons programme :mad:

I'm even more cross now - if that was actually possible...
 
This beast has cost billions, and consumes vast amounts of electricity.

The purpose, seemingly, is to discover 'the secrets of the universe'.

Very nice, for those interested, but does it have any practical purpose, or is it simply the ultimate 'boys' toy'?
 
This beast has cost billions, and consumes vast amounts of electricity.

The purpose, seemingly, is to discover 'the secrets of the universe'.

Very nice, for those interested, but does it have any practical purpose, or is it simply the ultimate 'boys' toy'?
I know, but I am not telling you. It is a secret - of the universe.
 
This beast has cost billions, and consumes vast amounts of electricity.

The purpose, seemingly, is to discover 'the secrets of the universe'.

Very nice, for those interested, but does it have any practical purpose, or is it simply the ultimate 'boys' toy'?
No "practical purpose" whatsoever.....other than attempting to discover the secrets of the universe.:rolleyes:
 
This beast has cost billions, and consumes vast amounts of electricity.

The purpose, seemingly, is to discover 'the secrets of the universe'.

Very nice, for those interested, but does it have any practical purpose, or is it simply the ultimate 'boys' toy'?
Well I for one can't see any advantage whatsoever in furthering our understanding of things.
 
It's far less of a boy's toy than our nuclear deterrent for instance, and far more useful and enlightened.
 
This beast has cost billions, and consumes vast amounts of electricity.

The purpose, seemingly, is to discover 'the secrets of the universe'.

Very nice, for those interested, but does it have any practical purpose, or is it simply the ultimate 'boys' toy'?
Do you think any of the things you use in your day to day work were discovered/developed as a result of research in a completely unrelated area? Do you think Einstein pissing around in 1905 was intending to help usher in the nuclear age, the computer age and nightvision? As well as any actual results from the experiment there is all the innovative engineering that could have untold uses in a few years time. Perhaps the experience of working on the LHC will inspire people to make developments in other areas. The solving of problem A in its construction/maintenance maybe similar to the solution of problem B in the real world.
 
it was a bit gutting when they turned it on and a mini black hole failed to drop into the earths core and eat the planet. Jurnalists talking it up again.
 
Well I for one can't see any advantage whatsoever in furthering our understanding of things.

The sarcasm is absolutely dripping from that. :D

However, other than the furtherance of scientific understanding, my question remains unanswered. Is there likely to be any practical outcome to the project? Theoretical physics, and the demonstration of that which was previously assumptive, is fine, but, will it achieve anything practical? Will it make the understanding of nuclear fusion, for example, easier?

What will it actually do?
 
Do you think any of the things you use in your day to day work were discovered/developed as a result of research in a completely unrelated area? Do you think Einstein pissing around in 1905 was intending to help usher in the nuclear age, the computer age and nightvision? As well as any actual results from the experiment there is all the innovative engineering that could have untold uses in a few years time. Perhaps the experience of working on the LHC will inspire people to make developments in other areas. The solving of problem A in its construction/maintenance maybe similar to the solution of problem B in the real world.

A lot of 'perhapses' in there.
 
The sarcasm is absolutely dripping from that. :D

However, other than the furtherance of scientific understanding, my question remains unanswered. Is there likely to be any practical outcome to the project? Theoretical physics, and the demonstration of that which was previously assumptive, is fine, but, will it achieve anything practical? Will it make the understanding of nuclear fusion, for example, easier?

What will it actually do?
I imagine way they use magnets and possibly the way they have constructed the beams might have some use in moving towards nuclear fusion.
 
There is research and there is development.

Research is typically government funded and looks at fundamental science from which can flow many beneficial things. And then there is development, typically undertaken by commercial entities looking to make a profit from invention and innovation.

Research, development, invention and innovation are all requirements for human progress.
 
The sarcasm is absolutely dripping from that. :D

However, other than the furtherance of scientific understanding, my question remains unanswered. Is there likely to be any practical outcome to the project? Theoretical physics, and the demonstration of that which was previously assumptive, is fine, but, will it achieve anything practical? Will it make the understanding of nuclear fusion, for example, easier?

What will it actually do?
theoretical physics is equations on the white board, this is practical. Well think, spods tinkering around with machines only spods understand gave us the manhattan project- which ok was not used for good to start with but cheap clean fuel, just round the corner. Near c spaceflight engine. Anti gravity boots. All the good things promised in SF and tech shows about the future. You may not understand what they are up to, and I'm not 100% sure either. But if it brings us the next gen equivalent of microwaves, plastics, smartphones and neuro-augs then let them get on with it I say. You're nearly my nans age- you remember the time before plastic and microwaves meals. I bet it was shit.
 
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