Lambeth Hospital in Landor Road - relocation and likely redevelopment

[lang rabbie]

The Lambeth Clinical Commissioning Group and South London & Maudsley NHS Trust have just started a consultation on the future of the remaining inpatient mental health services at Landor Road.

Improving inpatient mental health services for Lambeth

Only two options are given - do nothing or a move to a new hospital building the Maudsley Hospital site at Denmark Hill.

For both service users and staff, I can completely understand why the cramped 30 year old buildings at Landor Rd (some of the wards are converted from office space!) are not regarded as suitable.

But it does seem that the main driver in looking at options has been to sell the Lambeth Hospital site to fund the wider accommodation strategy of SLaM which has limited the options available.

What will happen to the Lambeth Hospital site?
The Trust’s clinical and estates strategies have shown that
only by releasing the value from its land can the Trust start
the process of modernising and improving the inpatient
facilities for service users across its boroughs in south London.
The Trust is exploring various options for the future of the
Lambeth Hospital site, if the proposals go ahead:
One option is to sell the site, with planning permission for a
residential development by a third party. This would enable the Trust
to deliver its wider estates strategy.
Another option is to sell part of the site to a third party for a residential
development and keep the rest, to develop itself with a greater
focus on key worker homes and other forms of accommodation to
support recruitment and retention of staff. This would provide a
higher return for the NHS and keep some of the land within the NHS’
ownership. This does increase the risks for the Trust and needs to be
looked at in more detail before a decision is made.
We understand that the site could accommodate approximately 450
homes, 50 per cent of which would be affordable homes, with private
gardens and public open and play spaces and other amenities for the
local community.
The Trust is working closely with Lambeth Council to explore what
could be delivered on the Lambeth Hospital site.
A separate planning consultation about the future
use of the site will take place later this year when more detail
will be shared with interested groups and the local community
and to hear people’s views.
A final plan for the site will only be progressed if the proposed
move of inpatient beds from Lambeth Hospital is agreed.

 

[CH1]

The Lambeth Clinical Commissioning Group and South London & Maudsley NHS Trust have just started a consultation on the future of the remaining inpatient mental health services at Landor Road.

Improving inpatient mental health services for Lambeth

Only two options are given - do nothing or a move to a new hospital building the Maudsley Hospital site at Denmark Hill.

For both service users and staff, I can completely understand why the cramped 30 year old buildings at Landor Rd (some of the wards are converted from office space!) are not regarded as suitable.

But it does seem that the main driver in looking at options has been to sell the Lambeth Hospital site to fund the wider accommodation strategy of SLaM which has limited the options available.

I am very annoyed about this.

Before giving a reasoned response later in the thread I would like to observe that about 50% of the present site is buildings, and 50% is car parking - which is always full and has Pay and Display.

I remember going to opening events at Lambeth Hospital - for example they made a big thing of displaying patients art, and works from the Bethlem Museum in the corridors.

Back in the 1990s when Lambeth Hospital was newly opened It didn't take long for the cracks to show. There was a legal dispute between local architects Greenhill Jenner, who designed Lambeth Hospital and the West Lambeth Health Authority, who had owned the South Western Hospital, previously on the site, and Tooting Bec Hospital.

Within a couple of years what had started off as an open campus at Lambeth Hospital became more fortified than a Lambeth Council Estate - and with as much parking.

 

[CH1]

The Lambeth Clinical Commissioning Group and South London & Maudsley NHS Trust have just started a consultation on the future of the remaining inpatient mental health services at Landor Road.

Improving inpatient mental health services for Lambeth

Only two options are given - do nothing or a move to a new hospital building the Maudsley Hospital site at Denmark Hill.

For both service users and staff, I can completely understand why the cramped 30 year old buildings at Landor Rd (some of the wards are converted from office space!) are not regarded as suitable.

But it does seem that the main driver in looking at options has been to sell the Lambeth Hospital site to fund the wider accommodation strategy of SLaM which has limited the options available.

SLAM have put up consultation information with substantially the same text/info

https://www.slam.nhs.uk/media/news/proposals-to-improve-mental-health-services-for-adults-at-lambeth-hospital

Co-incidentally I was at Lambeth Town Hall yesterday evening at a meeting to do with public engagement in the new Six Borough CCG which will manage services in Lambeth henceforth.

South East London is merging CCGs: are there risks for Lambeth people? | Healthwatch Lambeth

A number of Lambeth residents have voiced their concern that proposals for "Our Healthier South East London", the regional coordinator of the national NHS Long Term Plan. People worry that proposals will have a major impact on Lambeth's autonomy.

www.healthwatchlambeth.org.uk

Dr Adrian McLaughlin came and sat next to me, so before the meeting started I asked what his opinion was about closing the Lambeth Hospital
Actually in view of the link you posted this was a stupid question - since Dr McLachlan chairs Lambeth Together. He is of course the go to person when it comes to GP and mental health services in Lambeth. I hadn't even thought about that - I just thought in the moment he was head of a surgery within spitting distance of the Lambeth Hospital.

Anyway Dr McLachglan didn't say he was in favour of closing Lambeth Hospital - he just said he could tell me several reasons why it was necessary - and proceeded to.
One of his colleagues then chimed in and suggested the site would enable them to get key worker affordable housing.

So there you have it - a 25 year old hospital is to be scrapped as not fit for purpose. Meanwhile not doubt someone will cook up a scheme so Peabody - most likely - will get to build key worker homes, presumably collecting a subsidy from the NHS and/or Lambeth Council en route.

 

[Plumdaff]

Where's the room at the Maudsley site for these wards to go to?

 

[CH1]

Where's the room at the Maudsley site for these wards to go to?

Quite. And there's a chart on page 55 of this document which shows existing provision at the Maudsley is worse quality than Lambeth Hospital

https://lambethtogether.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Lambeth-Hopital-Reconfiguration-PCBC-Version-9-ReleaseB.pdf

What;s going on???

 

[Crispy]

Where's the room at the Maudsley site for these wards to go to?

The car park next to the railway lines could be built over (with car parking retained on most of the ground floor)

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[Plumdaff]

In my recollection (I worked there from 2002-2006 so this could be very out of date) one very positive thing about many of the wards at Lambeth Hospital is that they have secure private access to their own outside space, so patients can get some fresh air even if they can't leave the ward (or as often happens, there aren't staff available to accompany them). That's sadly quite a rarity for a lot of psychiatric inpatient wards, and it would be a real shame if that were lost.

 

[lang rabbie]

Where's the room at the Maudsley site for these wards to go to?

As far as I can see the new wards would replace the 1970s Douglas Bennett House - yellow brick block facing Windsor Walk - which I think SLAM have recently demolished.
Douglas Bennett House site plans consultation boards

 

[editor]

There's a petition against the proposed development on the site

Lambeth Hospital development

We, the undersigned, object to the current proposals for the redevelopment of the Lambeth Hospital site on Landor Road, comprising 3, 5, 6, 7, and 9 storey blocks and an 18 storey tower.Our main objections are as follows: The proposed buildings are not in keeping with historical or...

you.38degrees.org.uk

 

[wtfftw]

There's change planned at maudsley too. I recall Google feeding me this. McAlpine team chosen for £65m south London mental health hospital

 

[CH1]

There's change planned at maudsley too. I recall Google feeding me this. McAlpine team chosen for £65m south London mental health hospital

Very nice. But as a hardened cynic I have to say I've watched Kings 2000 stretch to (apparently) Kings 2020.
Basically the trouble with these health service specialist units is they seem to be tied into research and private institutional funding. It doesn't guarantee shorter general waiting lists at all.

In this case funding is coming from the Pears Foundation (how much anyone?)
This is absolutely nothing to do with replacing the services being stopped at Lambeth Hospital as far as i can see.
Short promo - SLAM are good at making these sort of films

 

[CH1]

There's a petition against the proposed development on the site

Lambeth Hospital development

We, the undersigned, object to the current proposals for the redevelopment of the Lambeth Hospital site on Landor Road, comprising 3, 5, 6, 7, and 9 storey blocks and an 18 storey tower.Our main objections are as follows: The proposed buildings are not in keeping with historical or...

you.38degrees.org.uk

I've signed this - but it is all about planning issues.
My own beef with this is is seems to be enforced asset stripping by SLAM.
Or maybe its not enforced.
The Wandsworth Times had this gloss on it

"The plans would mean some NHS land is privately sold off – SLaM said it “recognises there are sensitivities around the use of surplus NHS land”, and is “actively looking at ways [it] can retain an interest in the site for the long term”.
The consultation follows a decision by NHS South East London Clinical Commissioning Group to move adult inpatient mental health services from Lambeth Hospital, in Landor Road, to new facilities on the Maudsley Hospital site in Denmark Hill.
The Trust said the money generated from the homes, 258 of which are set to be affordable, would be “reinvested back into our current and future hospital and community facilities”.
It said “unlike some other trusts”, most of its hospital buildings are “old and in poor condition”, 60 per cent were built more than 30 years ago, while there is “little money for improvements”.

A spokesperson said: “This is the next step in the Trust’s vision to deliver world class mental health care for patients.
“The aim of this redevelopment is to release value from surplus estate at Lambeth Hospital to reinvest back into our current and future hospital and community facilities, while creating much needed new homes, for local people in Lambeth.
“There is little money available to make the improvements needed.
“We therefore need to use the proceeds from our surplus estate at Lambeth Hospital to invest back into our other current and future hospital and community facilities.”
The new buildings would mostly be five to seven storeys high, with one 18-storey tower in the centre of the site.

Just under half the homes, a mix of 220 one-beds, 300 two-beds, and 40 three-beds, will be affordable – 70 per cent social rent and 30 per cent intermediate.
According to the plans, all homes will have immediate access to outdoor space in the form of private balconies or communal gardens, while the car-free development will provide storage for 1,100 bicycles.
Following the consultation, the Trust expects to submit a planning application to the council in autumn, while the decision is expected in winter 2020/21.

Of course all homes will have access to open space in the form of balconies.
Last week this turned sour for a Wembley family whose young son died in a balcony fall.
What could possibly go wrong?
Boy dies in fall ‘from eighth floor’ of block next to Wembley Stadium