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Keith Flint of The Prodigy dead

nice story, but it's britpop revisionism - The Prodigy & Oasis fanbase always had a massive crossover, and they had been headlining rock festivals for years by 1996. Music for the Jilted Generation was the Prodigy album all the indie fans got into, not Fat of the Land.
Definitely - also worth saying after the Charly EP and particularly b-side Your Love getting battered I never heard any subsequent Prodigy tracks get played at a rave or jungle party ever again.

Off the back of Charly getting to (looked it up) no3 they almost immediately became an album/pop dance crossover act and placed in the mix with whatever pop music the broadest range of teenagers (and older) were listening to - a pretty impressive jump to make. I wonder how much XL head honchos had a part in influencing that? I expect quite a big one. The change replicates XL's own mutation.

the XL story is pretty incredible - starting putting out underground dance 12s and now working what to spend their millions on having the likes of Adele and Radiohead on their books
 
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the XL story is pretty incredible - starting putting out underground dance 12s and now working what to spend their millions on having the likes of Adele and Radiohead on their books

It's absolutely amazing. The stuff early XL put out was brilliant. DJs take Control and Awesome 3. Wow. And that it turned into what is now. One of the greatest stories in music.
 
nice story, but it's britpop revisionism - The Prodigy & Oasis fanbase always had a massive crossover, and they had been headlining rock festivals for years by 1996. Music for the Jilted Generation was the Prodigy album all the indie fans got into, not Fat of the Land.


Not wanting to damp down an ace story but I was at Knebworth and genuinely can’t remember the prodigy at the gig, probably due to spending 89-94 virtually full time depleting my serotonin. Loved the prodigy but not my flavour/choice of tunes for giving it some, infact not really heard where I was doing what I was doing

ETA very much like underworld, iconic era setting tunes but not danceable, maybe due to my narrow tastes at the time
 
Everybody in The Place was never topped by the Prodigy as a single. Weather Experience at the end of the first album (first CD i ever got) showed a maturity that they weren't credited with originally (stupidly dismissed as a joke band). The Genaside 2 remix of Jericho was one of the greatest tunes of the entire decade for me as well.

Was it Mixmag who ran the "Did Charly kill rave?" cover?
 
Yeah on the scene because of Charly I think Prodigy got lumped in from there on in with likes of Sesames Street and Trip To Trumpton and basically lost credibility. (and TBF their follow up tunes didnt really keep up with cutting edge sounds)...bigger more commercial fish to fry though




Was it Mixmag who ran the "Did Charly kill rave?" cover?
Id quite like to read that...there is a case there!

Found it
Mixmag apologise about Charly killed Rave
 
Dunno, I took from that he was dissing SUAD et al. for saying they invented breakbeat house rather than saying he or Prodigy were responsible for it.
They did though - he didnt. His First tune came out in 91 on the back of loads of other similiar rave stuff. SUAD and 4 Hero were doing it in 1990, and there are solid examples from 89 too. So yeah "makes me laugh" indeed.
 
Laurent Garnier still plays Out Of Space in his festival sets

Out of space is the first tune I thought of when I heard KF had killed himself. It’s the tune I posted in on my faceache. Felt like it represented the band and KF in my mind

Strange innit. Music, memory, times, experiences
 
Out of space is the first tune I thought of when I heard KF had killed himself. It’s the tune I posted in on my faceache. Felt like it represented the band and KF in my mind

Strange innit. Music, memory, times, experiences
I heard Out Of Space in school for the first time aged about 13, some bad kids were playing it in class on a portable tape machine when the teacher went out the class, it got me in to both the prodigy and the productions of lee perry simultaneously, def my favourite tune of theirs
 
Is anyone else bothered that he evidently killed himself?
Sympathy for unknown problems and everything, but ffs.
Suicide now the biggest killer (?) for men under 50, here's 2019's role model for ya, kids.

Essentially, if Keith can do it, why can't / should't I?

Another celeb suicide, and we go on imagining fame and fortune is something to aspire to.
Sorry, but this week is shit at my end, and KF deciding to end it all isn't helping me chill.
 
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Is anyone else bothered that he evidently killed himself?
Sympathy for unknown problems and everything, but ffs.
Suicide now the biggest killer (?) for men under 50, here's 2019's role model for ya, kids.

Essentially, if Keith can do it, why can't / should't I?

Another celeb suicide, and we go on imagining fame and fortune is something to aspire to.
Sorry, but this week is shit at my end, and KF deciding to end it all isn't helping me chill.

It scares the shit out of me tbh
 
Armchair psychiatry but id guess he was bipolar/manic depressive? Adrenalin sports and drug use suggests a crash at the other end?
 
Bear with me here, but I have a theory about middle-aged men and depression, and I suspect some of it may be hormonal in nature. Women entering menopause suffer terrible anxiety and depression due to fluctuating hormones and depleting oestrogen. Men's hormones also fluctuate in middle-age, and levels of testosterone drop. When one hormone fluctuates, others do too, that's exactly why you become depressed, cos your serotonin is fucked up.
 
Bear with me here, but I have a theory about middle-aged men and depression, and I suspect some of it may be hormonal in nature. Women entering menopause suffer terrible anxiety and depression due to fluctuating hormones and depleting oestrogen. Men's hormones also fluctuate in middle-age, and levels of testosterone drop. When one hormone fluctuates, others do too, that's exactly why you become depressed, cos your serotonin is fucked up.
I think men generally underestimate the influence of hormones on our mood/behaviour.
 
I think men generally underestimate the influence of hormones on our mood/behaviour.
I'm really aware of it cos of going through it myself, and I'm seeing a fair few of my bloke mates of the same age suffering with anxiety and depression, and nothing really helping it. I'd agree with you - it seems to be perceived as a female affliction. I'm really tempted to ask my mates to go and get their hormone levels checked, but I can guarantee not a one of them will a) take it seriously and b) get it done :(
 
I'm really aware of it cos of going through it myself, and I'm seeing a fair few of my bloke mates of the same age suffering with anxiety and depression, and nothing really helping it. I'd agree with you - it seems to be perceived as a female affliction. I'm really tempted to ask my mates to go and get their hormone levels checked, but I can guarantee not a one of them will a) take it seriously and b) get it done :(
Yeah, I include myself in that (I'm a year younger than KF). It's something I try to remain aware of. But knowing myself, even if I do a), I'm unlikely to do b). Not saying it's right - it's not - but I can't deny that's how I am.
 
Yeah, I include myself in that (I'm a year younger than KF). It's something I try to remain aware of. But knowing myself, even if I do a), I'm unlikely to do b). Not saying it's right - it's not - but I can't deny that's how I am.
Thanks for your honesty. Thing about hormone fluctuations, a lot of the time you're just not aware that it might be that anyway. Plus blood tests will only show fluctuations IF they're evident on the day of the test. Plenty of women get told they're not perimenopausal cos on that particular day, their oestrogen was at a normal level, but yet they'll be flushing and sweating and crucified with depression. I think it's worth a serious look in to though.
 
Not wanting to damp down an ace story but I was at Knebworth and genuinely can’t remember the prodigy at the gig, probably due to spending 89-94 virtually full time depleting my serotonin. Loved the prodigy but not my flavour/choice of tunes for giving it some, infact not really heard where I was doing what I was doing

ETA very much like underworld, iconic era setting tunes but not danceable, maybe due to my narrow tastes at the time

Your memory might not be playing tricks on you; Knebworth was on the Saturday & Sunday, Prodigy played the Saturday only. IIRC, running order on Saturday was Prodigy/ Manics/ Oasis, but it might have been Manics/ Prodigy/ Oasis?
 
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