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Economically it should start to pick up as well, as Siemens start work later this year on converting the Alexandra Dock and surrounding area into a factory and support base for three offshore wind farms. Landing that was a huge deal for the city, and in its wake a few other green energy firms have announced plans to build facilities there. It's what Hull hasn't had for a long time - a good foothold in a definite growth industry. Similar developments are in hand on the south bank of the Humber as well.


I am afraid to say that that is very unlikely to get past the planning stages , I know Alex Dock well and many people who work on them as well as the neighbouring King George dock and have seen the plans proposed . Political flannel it appears . The area desperately needs some employment opportunities . The access along Hedon Road is too limited and the plans involve filling in part of Alex Dock which is not viable. I was there last month , I store material on Alex which is part of the site that has been earmarked
 
I am afraid to say that that is very unlikely to get past the planning stages , I know Alex Dock well and many people who work on them as well as the neighbouring King George dock and have seen the plans proposed . Political flannel it appears . The area desperately needs some employment opportunities . The access along Hedon Road is too limited and the plans involve filling in part of Alex Dock which is not viable. I was there last month , I store material on Alex which is part of the site that has been earmarked

Have you a source for this? Everything I'm hearing suggests otherwise, and although Hedon Road (and more to the point Castle Street!) is a problem and filling in part of the dock a big job, both of these were well known at the time Hull submitted its bid, and unless Siemens are monumentally incompetent I can't believe they weren't factored in when the decision to place the plant in Hull was made.
 
Only from people who work the dock and have seen the plans . I store oil in a tank farm right on Alex Dock , the owners of the tanks have assured me that the project will not go ahead . They have a long lease on the tanks and would have to be relocated , something that they say just will not happen . I take them at face value and I really hope they are wrong but they do know their way around the area . It is a vast area to fill , you cant begin to imagine the amount of time and fill it would take . There is no adequate road access , everything would need to come in by ship .

I hope I am wrong .

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I only have just read some of the more recent reports coming out in the local press and from Siemens themselves and it does seem like its full steam ahead , lets hope for Hulls sake that its a goer .
 
Hmm, that's interesting - we'll have to see how things develop. I do know a few people in the university who are involved one way or another and they all seem pretty upbeat about it. However, I must admit I'll be happier - as will a lot of people in Hull I suppose - when a binding contract is signed. The Yorkshire Post suggested recently that that's imminent, so let's hope they're right. :)
 
FWIW it looks like i'm definitely on the way up there but until December. I've been recommended "The Avenues" and Cottingham has been mentioned.

My skillset is awesome but it's either mid/large company IT department or consultancy based working for mid/large companies. On that front I recon i'm going to have to commute or diversify a bit.
 
Were I to move back to Hull, I'd be looking for a place in the Avenues. It's a pleasant part of the city, only a mile or so from the centre, and the houses, especially at the northern end of Prince's Avenue, are beautiful. Prince's Ave itself has gone downmarket - and downhill - a bit in recent years, though.

Beverley Road might be worth a look. The town end is a bit run down and rough (although tbf I used to walk up there at all hours of the day and night and never felt unsafe) and the stretch between Queen's Road and Cottingham Road is very studenty. Just north of that, however, there are some really good bits - Wellesley Ave, Heathcote Street and the like. I lived in that area and really liked it. It's on a main bus route into town, close to the university and the Avenues, and it's nice and quiet.

Cottingham is nice, as are the other west Hull villages, but too far out for me. You can live so cheaply in central Hull that I don't really see the point of living out in the suburbs. Indeed, if you want to live right in the centre - and I'd certainly consider it if I were to move back - you can find nice flats in the Old Town for very reasonable prices.

I'm off to Hull next weekend, for the first time in six months, and I'm well looking forward to it. It's always a pleasure to see the old city again. :cool:
 
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Just been talking to some colleagues up in Hull and it seems that the Siemens deal is going ahead after all but at a reduced level , whatever , it should be good for employment in the area

That's good news. I've been watching fairly anxiously for news ever since the planning applications were submitted, especially in view of a conversation I had with someone at the university (evidently better informed than my previous contact!) who suggested the Council had 'massively oversold' the Alexandra Dock's advantages, but it's all been rather quiet. I was struck by Siemens' comment quoted in yesterday's Guardian that although the ConDems' lack of enthusiasm for renewables - which has led to a few other schemes being cancelled - is an issue they're keen to press ahead. glad to hear it's going ahead, even at a reduced level. If there's anywhere that needs the jobs atm, Hull's it, especially in view of BAe's near-closure of the Brough site and yesterday's news that the Comet call centre is under threat.
 
one of the biggest costs was going to be the filling in of Alex Dock , not only was it going to be prohibitively expensive but it involved moving existing tank installations ( the people I am close to ) at a huge expense . Apparently a compromise is close to being agreed whereby Siemens only take over the half of the dock that is not currently being used . All subject to change of course but seems hopeful.
 
Not official but am hearing from friends on the dock that Siemens deal is close to being cancelled which is very bad news indeed for the area .
 
Siemens have said they’re delaying a final decision until early next year, although that’s not to say it couldn’t come sooner.

The local planning issues are pretty much resolved and the main sticking point is the government's inability to formulate a coherent energy policy and restrain morons like John Hayes and the Chancellor. Siemens was one of several major renewables firms who signed that open letter a few weeks back saying that the government’s mixed messages on renewable energy has created uncertainty enough to put major investment plans in doubt. A couple of biomass schemes in Lincolnshire have been cancelled since then, although another one in Hull is apparently to go ahead, or so it was reported last week, and today’s news about the wind turbine plant in Scotland might also be a sign that the problem isn’t terminal. I see the Yorkshire Post are spinning that as a blow for the Humber, but as far as I know there was never any suggestion it would be built here. The energy bill – when published – should clear some of the confusion for better or for worse.

On the credit side, the Humber Local Enterprise Partnership has been given a big wad of cash to help close the deal, and senior politicians from the PM downwards have been making positive noises about the project. Whether that’s enough to offset Osborne and his minions’ poisonous anti-renewables antics is doubtful, though.

There’s a lot of cynicism in Hull about the whole thing – in probably the UK’s most cynical city anyway – and quite a lot of people never really believed it would happen from the off. I’d hate to see them proved right. More importantly, we really need the Siemens deal. Unemployment in the city is way above the national average, and although I’ve had the sense that things have improved a bit recently, with more property changing hands round my way and several places that have stood empty for a while being refurbished and reopened, all the major headlines about the local economy are bad. Seven Seas is closing by 2015, the Comet centre is almost certainly for the chop now the firm’s in administration, a big factory in Barton on Humber is shutting (despite the fact that its owners took a big wad of government money to build the damn thing only 30 years ago!), several other major industrial employers are shedding staff and the city council has to lose another 240 people next year. Times are pretty grim. The Siemens deal could change that profoundly. It’s what Hull hasn’t had for decades: a foothold in a growth industry. It’s a huge project in its own right, and would very probably help to attract more firms in the sector to the city and the region.

Tbh I’m seriously worried, and also bloody furious with the government. Even if you’ve your head jammed sufficiently firmly in the sand to ignore all of the evidence about climate change, renewable energy makes huge sense in terms of energy security and offsetting inevitable future rises in the price of fossil fuels. Moreover, the ‘green economy’ is one of the few bits of the economy that’s actually growing and generating jobs and major investments at the moment, and in parts of the country that badly need it. The sheer stupidity of the Tory right in putting all of that in jeopardy beggars belief.

No amount of cajolery...
 
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