Googles Nexus 7 tablet discussion, reviews

[skyscraper101]

Well, they're not. They're updated in real-time depending on the position and speed of the bus, and other buses on the same route. The system knows how far away the bus is, and works out how long it should take to get there, based on how long other buses have taken to make the same journey recently. The best it can manage is to within a minute or two. I don't think you or I would be any better at making that judgment if we had the location data.

Fascinating stuff

It's still no good if the bus is stood still two minutes away in theory, and your countdown just repeatedly says '2 minutes' if the bus is stuck in a jam, or parked up mid-route, or whatever. I want to see a dot on a map which tells me, visually, that the bus is either moving, or going nowhere for the last 5 minutes. And that's the difference between me opting for another bus or not, or even walking if I can. Fuck trusting the TFL system of working it out, if the best it can do is 'within a minute or two' then I'm not interested, and it's failed me too many times.

You know the data is there. I'm surprised you don't want it to be harnessed better.

The Nexus Q is terrible. 3x the cost of Apple's equivalent, and doesn't even work standalone.

I totally agree with you on this

 

[Kid_Eternity]

It's still no good if the bus is stood still two minutes away in theory, and your countdown just repeatedly says '2 minutes' if the bus is stuck in a jam, or parked up mid-route, or whatever. I want to see a dot on a map which tells me, visually, that the bus is either moving, or going nowhere for the last 5 minutes. And that's the difference between me opting for another bus or not, or even walking if I can. Fuck trusting the TFL system of working it out, if the best it can do is 'within a minute or two' then I'm not interested, and it's failed me too many times.

You know the data is there. I'm surprised you don't want it to be harnessed better.



I totally agree with you on this

The data is there but it's up to app makers to harness it better. The London gov have a very smart person working on their open data side of things but she's made it clear it's app makers job to make big transport data useful for the passenger...

 

[skyscraper101]

The data is there but it's up to app makers to harness it better. The London gov have a very smart person working on their open data side of things but she's made it clear it's app makers job to make big transport data useful for the passenger...

Nothing wrong with that. But hopefully you take my point that a system which is only accurate to within 2 minutes, and just updates the countdown to a potentially endless '2 minutes' status doesn't really do as good a job of informing the customer about whether its worth waiting for the bus or not when there are alternatives.

Dots on a google map in real time, accurate to the second. That is the way forward.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Nothing wrong with that. But hopefully you take my point that a system which is only accurate to within 2 minutes, and just updates the countdown to a potentially endless '2 minutes' status doesn't really do as good a job of informing the customer about whether its worth waiting for the bus or not when there are alternatives.

Dots on a google map in real time, accurate to the second. That is the way forward.

I do but what I read is the developers need to do better with the data..!

Anyway, we should er probably cease the thread detail.

 

[maldwyn]

What will today's keynote bring

 

[magneze]

Surely liking it or not is critical in determining whether it's "the future" or not? Not everybody wants to wear glasses.

That's just the first phase. Soon Google will be in your brainz.

 

[elbows]

Just tuned in, they seem to be arsing around on the roof with Google Glass again.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

In the summer almost everyone wears glasses anyway - of course AR glasses are the future of mobile internet imo, well them and the ihat.

 

[paolo]

In the summer almost everyone wears glasses anyway - of course AR glasses are the future of mobile internet imo, well them and the ihat.

It's summer now, and almost *noone* is wearing glasses.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

In the summer almost everyone wears glasses anyway - of course AR glasses are the future of mobile internet imo, well them and the ihat.

Maybe in other countries...it's been a tad wet here!

 

[skyscraper101]

I wonder how easy it is to change the battery on the nexus 7, I haven't seen this mentioned yet.

 

[magneze]

I wonder how easy it is to change the battery on the nexus 7, I haven't seen this mentioned yet.

"In fact, the Nexus 7’s back panel is not removable at all."
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/29/3125396/google-nexus-7-review

 

[skyscraper101]

"In fact, the Nexus 7’s back panel is not removable at all."
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/29/3125396/google-nexus-7-review

Not good.

But that was a very slick and comprehensive review there, cheers. Minor grievances aside, it still looks amazing for the money.

 

[elbows]

That was an interesting review. The thing that dismayed me the most was this:

One thing that struck me as odd, however, is the fact that the homescreen doesn’t have a landscape view. As in, you cannot turn the tablet to landscape when you’re on the homescreen. It’s actually a bit frustrating when you move from a landscape app back home — and I can’t figure out why Google would have removed this functionality, which was present in Honeycomb.

Thats not good at all, wtf?

 

[skyscraper101]

It is a bit annoying yes. Especially as the Galaxy Nexus does landscape home screen if you plug it into a TV.

 

[skyscraper101]

The Galaxy Nexus (phone) looks like its getting banned from sale now in the US following the latest Apple wailing about patent infringement.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18656402

 

[Kid_Eternity]

"In fact, the Nexus 7’s back panel is not removable at all."
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/29/3125396/google-nexus-7-review

Oh I see, so like the iPad it has no SD card and you can't open it up? I expect howls of derision on those key points any moment now.

 

[editor]

Oh I see, so like the iPad it has no SD card and you can't open it up? I expect howls of derision on those key points any moment now.

Except it's a third of the price.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Except it's a third of the price.

Still how much would it have cost to add an SD port? It's a design choice, not a price thing.

 

[paolo]

16Gb Nexus 7: £199
16Gb iPad 2: £329
16Gb New iPad: £399

 

[mack]

This will be a developers dream, so much to hack, so any minor annoyances will be overcome pretty sharpish.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Except it's a third of the price.

So features don't matter if the price right? We'll put that one on the shelf for when the iPad mini comes out.

 

[paolo]

So features don't matter if the price right? We'll put that one on the shelf for when the iPad mini comes out.

That shelf has had so much put on it over the years I'm surprised it hasn't collapsed.

 

[editor]

So features don't matter if the price right? We'll put that one on the shelf for when the iPad mini comes out.

If you want all the features, you should expect pay a premium price.
Unless you're buying an iPad of course.

 

[editor]

16Gb New iPad: £399

Cheapest Nexus is £159.

 

[paolo]

Cheapest Nexus is £159.

Cheapest iPad is £329.

 

[editor]

Cheapest iPad is £329.

Old model, yes. And still over twice as much. Is there a point here?

 

[paolo]

Old model, yes. And still over twice as much. Is there a point here?

Only arithmetic, that's all.

 

[maldwyn]

The main point being the only way to truly compete against Apple in the tablet world is to sell at a loss.

 

[editor]

Only arithmetic, that's all.

The point being made is that, generally, you can expect a cheaper model model to have less features. Not sure why anyone's even arguing this point really seeing as common sense.