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Googles Nexus 7 tablet discussion, reviews

Contandino said anybody who puts media files onto the device rather than streams on it is a "dumbass". He is suffering from a paucity of imagination as to how people use their devices.

Well that answers the question. You're a dumbass because your English comprehension is shite...or you're just a liar.

Quote me or fuck off.
 
I'd be grateful if folks wound their respective necks in a tad here please and kept the discussion civil. Ta!
 
That is dead easy to get stuff on and off a tablet. That you'd have to be a disorganised arse to fill a tablet to the point where it no longer works.

But you said that it was cloud storage that would make on-device storage less necessary. This isn't true if you can't use the mobile device to access the internet reliably, as you often can't when out and about on trains and the like. And I'm pretty sure a lot of people use their tablets while commuting by train.
 
I don't think copying stuff from your home computer to your tablet over WiFi has anything to do with could services, no. I'm confident that I am not alone in that.

And I'm more pissed off with people telling me what I think, or misquoting me, than about the subject.
 
I don't think copying stuff from your home computer to your tablet over WiFi has anything to do with could services, no. I'm confident that I am not alone in that.

And I'm more pissed off with people telling me what I think, or misquoting me, than about the subject.

OK... but nobody's misquoting you. Maybe you're just not phrasing yourself well or something.

Aren't cloud services intended as an alternative way to store data, ie. as an alternative to copying stuff from your home computer onto an SD card or whatever? I thought that was what you were suggesting, that people should use cloud services instead of copying data across. That is fine if you have a reliable internet connection for when you're using the device, but often people don't have that.
 
Aren't cloud services intended as an alternative way to store data, ie. as an alternative to copying stuff from your home computer onto an SD card or whatever?

Not as far as I'm aware. Cloud services are internet-based services, hosted and distributed wherever the service provider sees fit. AirDroid is a local service that just uses a local Wifi network (i.e. no internet) to copy stuff between Android device and computer. DropBox or Google Drive are cloud services, for example. The iTunes cloud stores your music somewhere out in internetland rather than making you store it locally. AirDroid is not a cloud service.

Obviously if people are buying a wifi-only tablet (this thread is still about Nexus, right?) when they don't have access to a wifi network, then....well I'm not allowed to call them dumbasses, but it's the sort of thing a dumbass might do.

If people can't use things like AirDroid (there are several similar apps) or USB sticks to manage their content, or are too lazy/disorganised, you can't really blame Google/Asus.

Google/Asus are at fault for not installing a memory card slot, but that is nothing more than an inconvenience. It doesn't stop you doing anything that you'd be able to do had they provided one.
 
Not as far as I'm aware. Cloud services are internet-based services, hosted and distributed wherever the service provider sees fit. AirDroid is a local service that just uses a local Wifi network (i.e. no internet) to copy stuff between Android device and computer. DropBox or Google Drive are cloud services, for example. The iTunes cloud stores your music somewhere out in internetland rather than making you store it locally. AirDroid is not a cloud service.

Obviously if people are buying a wifi-only tablet (this thread is still about Nexus, right?) when they don't have access to a wifi network, then....well I'm not allowed to call them dumbasses, but it's the sort of thing a dumbass might do.

If people can't use things like AirDroid (there are several similar apps) or USB sticks to manage their content, or are too lazy/disorganised, you can't really blame Google/Asus.

Google/Asus are at fault for not installing a memory card slot, but that is nothing more than an inconvenience. It doesn't stop you doing anything that you'd be able to do had they provided one.

Ah, OK - the name made it sound like a cloud service and a quick Google did too.

But you did start off calling people names for not using things like Airdroid. It is more convenient to have the files you want on the device you want to use them on - I don't think that's a sign of stupidity.
 
If people can't use things like AirDroid (there are several similar apps) or USB sticks to manage their content, or are too lazy/disorganised, you can't really blame Google/Asus.

Aha, if you'd explained what AirDroid did when you made a one line point that named it we probably wouldnt have gone off on completely the wrong track.

I think the main problem with your point is the idea that wanting to fill up a device to its capacity is just a sign of laziness or disorganisation. There have been quite a number of occasions where I have wanted to fill a tablet with as much content of a certain type as I could, before taking it somewhere. I've certainly filled an ipad to capacity on more than one occasion and if I was well off I'd have gone for a 64GB model.
 
OK, so now you understand better...

So how many people run a desktop/laptop down to 0 bytes of unused diskspace, and expect it to keep running optimally? I can tell you that my Mac, running 10.6 gets proper fucked up with anything less than a few dozen meg spare. The last time I worked on a Windows computer, the same applied.

But somehow it's a big issue if the same happens to a Nexus?
And somehow filling a Nexus to the brim is a 'must have' feature?
And doing so is unavoidable for the average user?
 
My mobile device has an SD slot. I have a 32GB SD car. Every now and then I put the SD card in the laptop, delete all the videos already on it and replace them with a load of different videos instead. I don't see that anything else could be quicker and easier than that. Plus I decide what set of videos I want on the mobile device that week.

If others find other ways work for them then great. But don't tell me that my very quick and easy approach means I "don't know how to use my device properly"
 
If others find other ways work for them then great. But don't tell me that my very quick and easy approach means I "don't know how to use my device properly"

There you go again. Where did I say that? Quote me.

And an apology for misquoting me last time wouldn't go amiss.
 
You're throwing around all sorts of shit, generally being extremely unpleasant to all and sundry on a simple thread about an electronic device. You're calling people "dumbass" for the way they use their machine. You're saying that people don't know how to use their stuff properly. Fuck you, frankly, if you think you're getting any civility out of me after all that crap.
 
*dons mods hat

OK. I'm calling a halt to this spat. Contadino and kabbes: please put each other on ignore or at least refrain from responding to each other if you are unable to do so civilly.

The Nexus is a lovely tablet so let's all talk about that instead, yes? Pretty please?
 
*dons mods hat

OK. I'm calling a halt to this spat. Contadino and kabbes: please put each other on ignore or at least refrain from responding to each other if you are unable to do so civilly.
I have no problem with that. I have no idea what his problem is in this thread, but I have no desire to engage with it.
 
I am planning on getting one of these next week when I get paid, it really seems to be the perfect table for the 'casual user', Ipads are two big for me and far to expensive for the use I would get out of one, even if I could afford it. I will be paying a bit more that I would like though, I have felt for a while that when a decent tablet becomes available for less the £150 I would probably get one, but not before. But I have decided to go for the 16 gig version as I expect 8 gig can disappear surprisingly fast, I really bristle at paying and extra £40 just for 8 gig more memory, but fuck it it's my birthday in a couple of weeks. I am not the most techie person so I am sure I will not make the most of it, I mainly plan on using it as a glorified e-book reader and notepad.

I have two quick question
1, I want to make sure I have this absolutely right. It comes with a USB cable so I can plug it into my laptop and transfer files between the two quickly easerly and with no messing about the same as you would with something like a mp3 payer, right?

2, This has been asked already been asked on the thread but I can't see an answer. Can anyone recommend an app (ideally free or cheap) for working on Word docs, or rtf files or any format that word can use. I don't want much, I don't care about Excel or powerpoint or if it can handle mages well or anything. I just want to be able to type something on my laptop (with basic formating) transfer the file to the tablet and keep working on it. I have had a browse in Google play and can see this one, does anyone know if it is any good?
 
This thread, re: data limits/price rises/blocking tethering might be of interest to anyone on giffgaff:

http://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Co...-Internet-Community-Consultation/td-p/5917422

I did wonder how long the ride would last. Looks like £10 is no longer economically viable for unlimited data, texts, and 250 mins. Shame.

I'd vote option 3 anyway. As least it lets you stick with a £10 deal if you're not data hungry and go over 750Mb/month, you always have the option to pay £3 more and still seems like a good deal.

I wonder if their traffic management detection will pick up on tethering a galaxy nexus or if it appears on their network to look like legit phone data as opposed to a regular computer browser. Whilst I was between houses the other month in the UK I had to tether my laptop to my phone as it was the only way to get short-term internet without investing in a dongle or whatnot. They didn't block me, but I've heard in the US that TMobile do pick up on it sooner and put a data block on your account. I've also heard from the same sources that tethering an android tablet doesn't have the same effect.
 
I am planning on getting one of these next week when I get paid, it really seems to be the perfect table for the 'casual user', Ipads are two big for me and far to expensive for the use I would get out of one, even if I could afford it. I will be paying a bit more that I would like though, I have felt for a while that when a decent tablet becomes available for less the £150 I would probably get one, but not before. But I have decided to go for the 16 gig version as I expect 8 gig can disappear surprisingly fast, I really bristle at paying and extra £40 just for 8 gig more memory, but fuck it it's my birthday in a couple of weeks. I am not the most techie person so I am sure I will not make the most of it, I mainly plan on using it as a glorified e-book reader and notepad.

I have two quick question
1, I want to make sure I have this absolutely right. It comes with a USB cable so I can plug it into my laptop and transfer files between the two quickly easerly and with no messing about the same as you would with something like a mp3 payer, right?

2, This has been asked already been asked on the thread but I can't see an answer. Can anyone recommend an app (ideally free or cheap) for working on Word docs, or rtf files or any format that word can use. I don't want much, I don't care about Excel or powerpoint or if it can handle mages well or anything. I just want to be able to type something on my laptop (with basic formating) transfer the file to the tablet and keep working on it. I have had a browse in Google play and can see this one, does anyone know if it is any good?
1. I can't remember if it comes with a cable or not, but a regular USB cable lets you drag over files.
2. There's quite a few Office-compatible apps. Like: Documents to Go,(and the full premium version), Google's free Google Docs service with Google Drive, OfficeSuite Pro and Quickoffice Pro HD.
 
I did wonder how long the ride would last. Looks like £10 is no longer economically viable for unlimited data, texts, and 250 mins. Shame.

I'd vote option 3 anyway. As least it lets you stick with a £10 deal if you're not data hungry and go over 750Mb/month, you always have the option to pay £3 more and still seems like a good deal.

I wonder if their traffic management detection will pick up on tethering a galaxy nexus or if it appears on their network to look like legit phone data as opposed to a regular computer browser. Whilst I was between houses the other month in the UK I had to tether my laptop to my phone as it was the only way to get short-term internet without investing in a dongle or whatnot. They didn't block me, but I've heard in the US that TMobile do pick up on it sooner and put a data block on your account. I've also heard from the same sources that tethering an android tablet doesn't have the same effect.
It sounds like they'll allow tethering on capped/limited options. Which would suit me, as I don't use masses of data, but do tether my nexus and occasionally a laptop and my wife's ipad.
 
I've been having difficulty dragging over image files from my PC. When I plug the tablet into a USB port it asks for a driver and then hangs. the PC only recognises the nexus when I tell it to pretend to be a camera, and then it's not clear how I can drag photos over to it.
 
I've been having difficulty dragging over image files from my PC. When I plug the tablet into a USB port it asks for a driver and then hangs. the PC only recognises the nexus when I tell it to pretend to be a camera, and then it's not clear how I can drag photos over to it.

Have you got usb debugging activated on your N7? If so, switch it off for file management from your pc.
 
I don't think so. Haven't activated anything complex. FWIW, the Nexus is visible when I attach it to a Win7 laptop but not on the XP desktop where the photos are.
 
I'm going away for 3 months and as my netbook is on it's last legs, I'm seriously thinking about getting one of these instead.

Has anybody got a keyboard case for them? A quick google shows this rather posh model, but at almost half the cost of the device, seems overkill.

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All the other ones look a bit shit though, adding to the size of the machine.

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