Gisele Pelicot - some justice at last

[felixthecat]

BBC News - Gisèle Pelicot's ex-husband jailed for 20 years in mass rape trial

Gisèle Pelicot rape trial: Ex-husband Dominique jailed for 20 years

The convictions bring to an end France's largest ever rape trial, which has shocked the country and world.

www.bbc.com

I couldn't find a thread about this anywhere - can't believe there isn't one. If there is and I've not found it, mods please move this.
I think it has slightly more importance to a larger percentage of the population than a CEO being murdered...

 

[8ball]

Absolutely horrific. Some of the sentences handed out to the many associated offenders seem a little derisory, but I dont think her husband will be seeing daylight as a free man again.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

It was discussed on the Violence Against Women and Girls thread. But you're right - it deserves its own thread. My immediate thought is that 20 years is rather lenient.

 

[editor]

BBC News - Gisèle Pelicot's ex-husband jailed for 20 years in mass rape trial

Gisèle Pelicot rape trial: Ex-husband Dominique jailed for 20 years

The convictions bring to an end France's largest ever rape trial, which has shocked the country and world.

www.bbc.com

I couldn't find a thread about this anywhere - can't believe there isn't one. If there is and I've not found it, mods please move this.
I think it has slightly more importance to a larger percentage of the population than a CEO being murdered...

It was discussed on this thread: Men’s violence against women and girls is a national emergency

She's a remarkable woman.

 

[breadandcircuse]

It was discussed on this thread: Men’s violence against women and girls is a national emergency

She's a remarkable woman.

She is. She has been so courageous.

I don't think many of them have got long enough sentences, including her ex husband.

 

[trashpony]

I haven’t got words for how much admiration I have for her. What an absolutely extraordinary woman.

 

[xenon]

It was discussed on the Violence Against Women and Girls thread. But you're right - it deserves its own thread. My immediate thought is that 20 years is rather lenient.

As an aside, I wish people would start new threads for such prominant stories. It's rightfully all over the media.

One of the most disgusting / disturbing things is how many men he found that were willing to commit rape.

Yeah, I know this won't be too surprising to many women but it still seems shocking.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

It was discussed on the Violence Against Women and Girls thread. But you're right - it deserves its own thread. My immediate thought is that 20 years is rather lenient.

I heard on the radio news that he'd got 20 years and just as I was thinking 'That's a bit lenient, nowhere near long enough...' they said that that's the maximum sentence for that type of offence. Sadly. But yeah, given that it wasn't a one-off offence but there were scores of offences, it doesn't seem like justice has been sufficiently served, justice has been served to a degree, but the punishment doesn't really fit the number of crimes and the number of perpetrators that he was complicit in roping in as accomplices and the length of time it went on for, etc, etc.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

I haven’t got words for how much admiration I have for her. What an absolutely extraordinary woman.

Gisèle Pelicot is definitely more deserving of Time Person of the Year than the orange man.

 

[felixthecat]

One of the most disgusting / disturbing things is how many men he found that were willing to commit rape.

Yeah, I know this won't be too surprising to many women but it still seems shocking.

You're right, I don't think there are many women who find it surprising at all.

Red mist anger inducing yes, surprising no

 

[ice-is-forming]

Gisèle Pelicot is definitely more deserving of Time Person of the Year than the orange man.

 

[seeformiles]

II’m amazed at the banality of many of the convicted rapists. Makes me wonder how many supposedly ordinary men harbour such urges. Anyway, brave woman to have brought it all into the light.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I heard on the radio news that he'd got 20 years and just as I was thinking 'That's a bit lenient, nowhere near long enough...' they said that that's the maximum sentence for that type of offence. Sadly. But yeah, given that it wasn't a one-off offence but there were scores of offences, it doesn't seem like justice has been sufficiently served, justice has been served to a degree, but the punishment doesn't really fit the number of crimes and the number of perpetrators that he was complicit in roping in as accomplices and the length of time it went on for, etc, etc.

It does seem far too little, though at his age it is a death sentence.

The sentences for the others, many of whom are much younger, are far too short and (I don't know for sure) seem to reflect the crappy nature of French rape law (and the rape laws in many European countries, see Spain and the 'wolf-pack' thing a few years ago).

In the UK at least in recent years rape laws have been massively strengthened, to the extent that removing a condom during sex is now (rightfully) classed as rape. And yet our conviction rates are still abysmal. Can't imagine how poor they are when rape is defined in law as 'sex by surprise' or some other nonsense...

 

[weltweit]

Shocking story.
She provides a dignity in the face of absolute awfulness.
I am surprised there were so many willing rapists, and that the ratbag husband managed to find them.
Hopefully 20 years will be a death sentence for him, otherwise it doesn't seem like enough.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I am surprised there were so many willing rapists, and that the ratbag husband managed to find them.

I ain't.

So many men do not give a fuck about the people they take sexual gratification from, may as well be a jar of warm liver for them to stick their cocks in. So many of those convicted today genuinely did not believe their actions amounted to rape, they thought that as they had permission to stick their cocks in her that was OK. Thankfully the law in France shat on that defence, but the fact that so many of their lawyers went down that route shows how attitudes are.

 

[baldrick]

Unbelievably a number of the perps seem to think they are victims.

Which is an incredible mindset really, considering what they are convicted of. I hope the men who haven't been identified wait for that knock on the door for the rest of their lives, never relaxing.

Gisele is an astonishing woman, I hope she manages to find some peace in retirement.

It seems her daughter and daughters in law were also preyed upon by her ex husband. I don't know how you can come back from that as a family but I hope they do.