TitanSound
Mr Beardy Drummer
Shit is kicking off, hardcore.
http://libcom.org/blog/istanbul-taksim-gezi-park-has-nothing-do-trees-30052013
http://libcom.org/blog/istanbul-taksim-gezi-park-has-nothing-do-trees-30052013
Gezi Park - Istanbul
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bendeus
Bellend Tagline Generator
IIRC Istanbul has less green space per square kilometre than any other European city (I appreciate that half of it is in Asia)
When I lived there it was choking on a regular basis, partly due to serious traffic congestion, partly due to the fact that they used to burn a lot of lignite in the winter and partly due to there being no trees to soak it up. Appreciate that this is far more than a simple environmental protest and that resistance against the onrushing neoliberal tide is probably the real reason, but fuck me they have every reason to fight for every last patch of grass in that place. It's a concrete desert.
When I lived there it was choking on a regular basis, partly due to serious traffic congestion, partly due to the fact that they used to burn a lot of lignite in the winter and partly due to there being no trees to soak it up. Appreciate that this is far more than a simple environmental protest and that resistance against the onrushing neoliberal tide is probably the real reason, but fuck me they have every reason to fight for every last patch of grass in that place. It's a concrete desert.
TitanSound
Mr Beardy Drummer
miss direct
misfungled
I was there last night, in the park. If I wasn't a useless foreigner with asthma, I would be there again tonight.
Government and police reaction is an absolute joke and I am glad this is getting coverage so the outside world can see what is going on. They are tear gassing the general public as well as peaceful protesters. They burnt down their tents. Today the main street has been tear gassed, as have cafes and the metro station.
I am proud of these people who are standing up and doing something. Shame on Erdogan and shame on the police.
Government and police reaction is an absolute joke and I am glad this is getting coverage so the outside world can see what is going on. They are tear gassing the general public as well as peaceful protesters. They burnt down their tents. Today the main street has been tear gassed, as have cafes and the metro station.
I am proud of these people who are standing up and doing something. Shame on Erdogan and shame on the police.
TitanSound
Mr Beardy Drummer
From what I've read and been told, Erdogan is a proper cunt.
mack
Fact Me Till I Fart
Lost the plot completely - lot of people questioning his non-response to the bombing a couple of weeks ago and pushing through the alcohol sales curfew laws.
bendeus
Bellend Tagline Generator
When you look at the his antecedents in the cunty line of Turkish power he's no more or less cunty than the rest, IMVHO.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Few suggestions they are playing with fire here with weekend coming up.
He appears to have a dictator-like attitude. His huge portraits are all over Istanbul. And he bends with the wind like any slimy politician. Lately he's been bending to the Islamists. Too bad. Turkey has been a refreshing secular Muslim country.
Istanbul is a beautiful city but is growing & sprawling like mad. Good luck to the park protesters.
miss direct
misfungled
There is a live feed here:
http://reuters.cdn.livestation.com/...s&allowTransparency=true&allowfullscreen=true
The street shown is one of the main streets in Istanbul and would normally be full of people right now, walking, shopping, going to bars etc.
This is really scary and has been building up for a long time. The people of Istanbul have been gassed almost every day since the 1st of May.
http://reuters.cdn.livestation.com/...s&allowTransparency=true&allowfullscreen=true
The street shown is one of the main streets in Istanbul and would normally be full of people right now, walking, shopping, going to bars etc.
This is really scary and has been building up for a long time. The people of Istanbul have been gassed almost every day since the 1st of May.
Still hardly mentioned, even on the BBC4 world news.
miss direct
misfungled
The media here are under a lot of pressure to not report on this. The TV kept cutting to stupid unimportant things.
Here's a BBC link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22732139
Here's a BBC link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22732139
miss direct
misfungled
Top picture: CNN
Bottom picture: CNN Turk
miss direct
misfungled
That is not the point. Channels showing cooking programmes?? They are trying to keep people ignorant of what is going on. Thankfully, with social media, people are able to share their personal experiences of police brutality.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
The suggestion was that it's hard - as result of the police action - to get near enough to report it.
miss direct
misfungled
Yes I understood the suggestion. There are thousands of people in the streets tonight. The press should be reporting on it. That is their job! If they can't get into the middle of it, get on top of a building, or at least discuss the topic on the news channels instead of talking about Rihanna's concert or some other meaningless fluff. But hey, don't want to upset the government or advertisers.
miss direct
misfungled
The reuters link has gone down, if anyone is interested here is a live feed: http://www.vgtv.no/#!/video/65023/direkte-opptøyer-i-istanbul
Disgusting.
Disgusting.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
It's both - media has had its teeth pulled out over the years especially since the third election victory, basic aerials are all soft or overt AKP channels, as is radio news, but police tactics have been sharper than usual.
The dawn raid was not like May Day when journalists were mostly not targeted, police even helped some with tear gas inhalation.
The attack itself was mostly not recorded:- 7 people are in intensive care with head wounds now but he was specifically targeted because he came earlier than most to see what was happening no official press was there to record the assault or the burning of the tents and people's items or the saplings planted in the park.
Police set up a flash military operation to block off the park and their burning of the tents, so any journalists that did come would be very far away anyway behind large police vehicles.
The journalist there Ahmet Sik was targetted with a volley of gas canisters in mid-morning because he had managed to see more of the early morning's events, and is a critical voice, spent over a year in prison but then released because nothing would stick - their own fault they started with accusations of coup-plotting straight away. He is not intensive care though.
The dawn raid was not like May Day when journalists were mostly not targeted, police even helped some with tear gas inhalation.
The attack itself was mostly not recorded:- 7 people are in intensive care with head wounds now but he was specifically targeted because he came earlier than most to see what was happening no official press was there to record the assault or the burning of the tents and people's items or the saplings planted in the park.
Police set up a flash military operation to block off the park and their burning of the tents, so any journalists that did come would be very far away anyway behind large police vehicles.
The journalist there Ahmet Sik was targetted with a volley of gas canisters in mid-morning because he had managed to see more of the early morning's events, and is a critical voice, spent over a year in prison but then released because nothing would stick - their own fault they started with accusations of coup-plotting straight away. He is not intensive care though.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
The death report is false, spun by government supporters.
What's odd is bits of Istanbul the 'expected' alawite areas but middle-class areas and a few working-class non-religious established areas and having taken part in turning lights on and off protests, mostly middle-class areas though.
Apparently Uskudar a sort of mixed but mostly middle-class area has people banging empty cooking pots, applause and 'government resign' slogans at 3 o'clock in the morning police threatening people in vans that they will be arrested if they carry on, keeping patrol on the streets warning them not to go outside.
What's odd is bits of Istanbul the 'expected' alawite areas but middle-class areas and a few working-class non-religious established areas and having taken part in turning lights on and off protests, mostly middle-class areas though.
Apparently Uskudar a sort of mixed but mostly middle-class area has people banging empty cooking pots, applause and 'government resign' slogans at 3 o'clock in the morning police threatening people in vans that they will be arrested if they carry on, keeping patrol on the streets warning them not to go outside.
gawkrodger
Well-Known Member
fuck, this appears to be really spreading. Fingers crossed
http://occupygezipics.tumblr.com/
some amazing pictures here but some shocking ones, it looks like there are fatalities
some amazing pictures here but some shocking ones, it looks like there are fatalities
elbows
Well-Known Member
Quite a lot of videos of very variable quality here:
http://webtv.radikal.com.tr/Turkiye/3653/yorumsuz.aspx …
Plain clothes brutality clearly visible in the one I've linked to after about 30 seconds.
http://webtv.radikal.com.tr/Turkiye/3653/yorumsuz.aspx …
Plain clothes brutality clearly visible in the one I've linked to after about 30 seconds.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
I hope ordinary people come out more but I'm can't see it as yet, whilst Greece has been in crisis capital has flowed into Turkey massively under a heavily anti-union legal system with a fearful working-class service sector.
This is wrong though from the BBC:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22739423
"Hundreds of demonstrators marched over the bridge connecting the Asian and European shores of Istanbul on Saturday morning to try to reach the main square."
More than hundreds.
This is wrong though from the BBC:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22739423
"Hundreds of demonstrators marched over the bridge connecting the Asian and European shores of Istanbul on Saturday morning to try to reach the main square."
More than hundreds.
Attachments
Divisive Cotton
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Lots of this man is now dead. As is this man. And this one stuff going around on twitter now. I think Syria and things have sort of made it acceptable to make these crazy unsupported claims.
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