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I like it too. Very well done. I hope they go up through the play offs. With the mighty Maggies champions.

My only complaint would be the other teams are treated as anonymous foils. The Grimsby episode sort of gave that team a bit of focus. But otherwise the teams they're playing are anonymous. So eg Bromley in the Trophy final.
 
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Taper said:
I like it too. Very well done. I hope they go up through the play offs. With the mighty Maggies champions.

My only complaint would be the other teams are treated as anonymous foils. The Grimsby episode sort of gave that team a bit of focus. But otherwise the teams they're playing are anonymous. So eg Bromley in the Trophy final.
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Anyone want to hear from Bromley…?





Though not.
 
Other teams in the league are treated as road bumps, not as teams with their own hopes, dreams etc. And a lot of those teams, including my own, have a or indeed more glorious histories than Wrexham. And yet that doesn't really come across.

That is my minor gripe.
 
Taper said:
Other teams in the league are treated as road bumps, not as teams with their own hopes, dreams etc. And a lot of those teams, including my own, have a or indeed more glorious histories than Wrexham. And yet that doesn't really come across.

That is my minor gripe.
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I think the idea is that we see life through Wrexham's eyes. It would be a bit much if we had to labour through a long back story of the hopes and dreams of every team they play against.
And besides, isn't that just how fans think anyway?
 
I'm not asking for back stories. Just a recognition that teams.like Chesterfield, Grimsby, Stockport and indeed my own team Notts County are in exactly the same boat. And are as.important to their communities. As I say a minor gripe. But I hope Notts feck them over, win the league and force Wrexham through the play offs. Because that will make for a more exciting season 2.
 
Taper said:
Other teams in the league are treated as road bumps, not as teams with their own hopes, dreams etc. And a lot of those teams, including my own, have a or indeed more glorious histories than Wrexham. And yet that doesn't really come across.

That is my minor gripe.
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It’s all become clear. You went to the County vs Wrexham game and they never used any of the 20minute monologue to camera you gave them.
 
Notts County have famous fans.too. Shane Meadows. Jake Bugg. Vicky McClure. Alan Sillitoe. Harold Shipman. They could Hollywood that up.
 
Taper said:
Other teams in the league are treated as road bumps, not as teams with their own hopes, dreams etc. And a lot of those teams, including my own, have a or indeed more glorious histories than Wrexham. And yet that doesn't really come across.

That is my minor gripe.
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Actually, the last episode had quite a long section about Grimsby's history along with a slightly sour-grapey interview with their manager.
 
Indeed. And although pretty nugatory, that episode threw into relief the lack of any similar focus on other clubs in earlier episodes. May Notts County make the second season more interesting.
 
Taper said:
Indeed. And although pretty nugatory, that episode threw into relief the lack of any similar focus on other clubs in earlier episodes. May Notts County make the second season more interesting.
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I don't think you get the premise of the series. It's really about selling the excitement and uniqueness of non league football to an audience that wasn't previously interested.

If they started drifting their focus to include endless, often quite similar stories of other clubs it would rapidly get fucking boring.

Notts County should make their own TV series if you think they've got such a great story, but it seems pretty fruitless picking holes in Wrexham's documentary, which I think has been absolutely excellent. And focussed.
 
I love the documentary Love it. But non-league football is the very last thing it is about. It's about getting a grand old club out of the purgatory of non league football. And as a Notts fan I get that.
 
Taper said:
I love the documentary Love it. But non-league football is the very last thing it is about. It's about getting a grand old club out of the purgatory of non league football. And as a Notts fan I get that.
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I totally disagree. I'd say that its literally all about the realities of non league football - the fans, the heartache, the struggle, the volunteers etc. Promotion is the end game but its target audience would have learnt loads about football at this level.
 
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I totally disagree. I'd say that its literally all about the realities of non league football - the fans, the heartache, the struggle, the volunteers etc. Promotion is the end game but its target audience would have learnt loads about football at this level.
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At this level? Wrexham, Nottm Co, Stockport etc bear next to no relation to proper non league teams.
 
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I'm really not getting into a discussion about what constitutes a 'proper' non league team. Because that would be daft.
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Well, not really.

The National League is all but Division 5 these days. There's room for a documentary like the one in discussion but Wrexham kinda renders much of the drama moot. We already know they'll do relatively well. I rather suspect the show makers knew this and chose them as a fairly risk free option. Their future wasnt going to be one of them going bust and there was the off chance of success.

I'm not sure whom this show is aimed at. It's not going to be seasoned football fans for sure. Me, if i was gonna choose a club in that league to film then I would have looked at Maidstone. Phoenix club, the story of them returning to their hometown etc
 
tonysingh said:
Well, not really.

The National League is all but Division 5 these days. There's room for a documentary like the one in discussion but Wrexham kinda renders much of the drama moot. We already know they'll do relatively well. I rather suspect the show makers knew this and chose them as a fairly risk free option. Their future wasnt going to be one of them going bust and there was the off chance of success.

I'm not sure whom this show is aimed at. It's not going to be seasoned football fans for sure. Me, if i was gonna choose a club in that league to film then I would have looked at Maidstone. Phoenix club, the story of them returning to their hometown etc
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tonysingh said:
Well, not really.

The National League is all but Division 5 these days. There's room for a documentary like the one in discussion but Wrexham kinda renders much of the drama moot. We already know they'll do relatively well. I rather suspect the show makers knew this and chose them as a fairly risk free option. Their future wasnt going to be one of them going bust and there was the off chance of success.

I'm not sure whom this show is aimed at. It's not going to be seasoned football fans for sure. Me, if i was gonna choose a club in that league to film then I would have looked at Maidstone. Phoenix club, the story of them returning to their hometown etc
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I think the quintessential non league documentary would pick a club that’s:
  • beneath the National,
  • that’s constantly lower mid table - so no hint of glory but also no real drama, basically nothing going on on the pitch meaning the volunteers etc really do it for love not glory,
  • in a small but not affluent town where it’s the biggest thing in town, ie no nearby Prem/Championship club to take away focus, so the players tend to stick around,
  • where the town ideally has a bit of a backstory (not a new town),
  • nice enough ground but nothing too wonderful (so the viewer doesn’t think it’s all Crockenhill).

Which scrolling through NLS leads me to… Hungerford?
 
scousedom said:
I think the quintessential non league documentary would pick a club that’s:
  • beneath the National,
  • that’s constantly lower mid table - so no hint of glory but also no real drama, basically nothing going on on the pitch meaning the volunteers etc really do it for love not glory,
  • in a small but not affluent town where it’s the biggest thing in town, ie no nearby Prem/Championship club to take away focus, so the players tend to stick around,
  • where the town ideally has a bit of a backstory (not a new town),
  • nice enough ground but nothing too wonderful (so the viewer doesn’t think it’s all Crockenhill).

Which scrolling through NLS leads me to… Hungerford?
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That'll pack in the viewers!
 
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