General Dulwich Hamlet chat

[Dulwich Mishi]

Top and cross: from the crest of the Champion de Crespigny family, old landowners in the area...De Crespigny Park; Champion Park; Champion Road; Champion Hill.
Top left: From the emblem of Surrey. Dulwich was originally in the county of Surrey, before London expanded.
Top right: From the emblem of Dulwich. As in Dulwich College Estates. The Club were founded in the Village.
Bottom left: From the emblem of Camberwell. Before the London Borough of Southwark was established in 1965, the same area was covered by three Metropolitan boroughs-Bermondsey; Southwark & Camberwell. We were in Camberwell.
Bottom right: From the emblem of Westminster. Some of our founding members went to Dulwich College & Westminster schools. Hence our club colours of the Pink of Westminster & the Blue of Dulwich. The Westminster football team, who play in the Arthurian League, are Old Westminsters FC, and are known as the 'old pinks', playing in pink, to this day. http://www.oldwestminster.org.uk/page.aspx?pid=273

 

[Tricky Skills]

I've been making a large version of the badge on GIMP. Not vector graphics I'm afraid, and a bit 'Commodore 64' overall but it's better image quality than anything I could find online and unless you're getting MASSIVE stickers printed it'll look alright. I can email you the xcf file if you want, or send you a png with any minor changes (i.e. a darker blue). EDIT: oooh, stop press, you can save as psd files in GIMP.

And you're forever telling me that you are no modern interweb guru. Impressive stuff.

 

[EDC]

Anyone fancy a visit to Old Westminsters FC one day, flags, whippets, smoke flares, etc.

 

[PartisanDulwich]

Rott Weiss Essen salutes its industrial past

 

[Dulwich Mishi]

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That would be RottWeiss Essen.

 

[vornstyle76]

We should do a huge display depicting the club's private school origins. A 40ft banner of a hot buttery crumpet scalding minor aristocrat buttock flesh.

 

[Dulwich Mishi]

We should do a huge display depicting the club's private school origins. A 40ft banner of a hot buttery crumpet scalding minor aristocrat buttock flesh.

By the very nature very few football clubs would have 'working class origins'. The game in our country evolved from the public school network, and many clubs were then formed by (very much a generalisation here) mill owners or churches to work off excess energy of the working class masses to control them, and keep their minds off of other things, and to control them.

Yes, we appear to have had some public school roots, and, yes the people that founded our club appear to have been conservatives, but that is not surprising given the period we were founded in, back in 1893. Most of our orginal players would have been ordinary local lads from Dulwich Village who attended Dulwich Hamlet School, in the village, which was a London School Board one, not a public school.

And let us not forget there are a number of our fans, including some who post on here, who are former public schoolboys...now there's an image on a Sunday morning as I have a hot buttery crumpet for breakfast! ;-)

 

[EDC]

Mishi, I checked the names on the boardroom war memorial and quite a few, probably a dozen also feature on the memorial in Dulwich Hamlet School so yes, many of the early players did go to the school.

 

[pompeydunc]

What league are old Westminsters in then?

 

[all to nah]

What league are old Westminsters in then?

I think they're playing outside the English football league system, don't they?

I found them in the Arthurian League Division One (there's a Arthurian Premier as well).

If you're going while I'm over, i'll join you!

 

[EDC]

Trust King's College Wimbledon to buck the trend of names in that division. Bastards.

 

[PartisanDulwich]

I thought the club was formed by fleeing Communards from Paris

 

[pettyboy]

In other news...

Kevin James was an usher at Jermaine Pennant's wedding.

http://instagram.com/p/odN7PSgzDU/

 

[Balbi]

I thought the club was formed by fleeing Communards from Paris

 

[vornstyle76]

Bronski Beat were better.

 

[sankara]

Bronski Beat were better.

And from South London

 

[Dulwich Mishi]

And from South London

Not just South London, but Peckham &Camberwell, I think.

 

[Jamie Wyatt]

No more Ian Daly........

DULWICH HAMLET manager Gavin Rose says the club can’t compete financially with their rivals'.

The Hamlet finished in sixth-place in the Ryman Premier League table with 82 points from 46 games, missing out on a play-off place by just one point.

It was the south Londoners first season back in the top flight of Ryman League football for the first time since finishing bottom of the table in 2001.

Rose’s side must compete with the likes of Maidstone United and Margate next season and admits to having to work within the club’s budget.

“We can’t compete with our rival clubs financially and won’t put the club at risk by trying to live above its means,” said Rose.

“However, we have agreed deals with five new arrivals to which we will announce within the next fortnight.”

Rose revealed that Dublin-born striker, Ian Daly, 24, was released today.

Daly, who has been capped by the Republic of Ireland at youth level all the way up to under 21, was part of Manchester City youth set-up between 2006-2009 before making 30 appearances for St Patricks Athletic between 2011-2012.

He moved to England to sign for Conference South side Bromley in September 2012, before making the switch to Champion Hill in August 2013.

“We have released Ian Daly today, unfortunately with a few more to follow,” revealed Rose.

“I’d like to go on record in saying Ian was a pleasure to work with and was a credit to the football club.”

Daly scored 12 goals for the Pink & Blues last season and 33-goal midfield magician Erhun Oztumer appears to have played his last game for the club.

When asked the latest news on the 22-year-old star, who is a former trainee at Charlton Athletic and impressed during his time at Dulwich Hamlet, Rose replied: “He’s away on holiday, mulling over three contract offers, I believe.”

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

I hadn't realised Erhun to Luton wasn't a done deal tbh.

Bit of a shame about Ian Daly but I'm sure Gavin knows what he's doing. Some new songs needed though...

 

[EDC]

Another song bites the dust.

Hello, I feel a Queen moment coming on.

 

[Al Crane]

Shame about Ian Daly, not least because he spawned a great terrace song! I too thought the Oztumer deal was done but maybe not, perhaps because it was in the press a few weeks back other clubs have been sniffing round and also made offers?

I think this is going to be a big season for Gavin and the team. Hopefully he will unearth the next Carr, Oztumer...

 

[sankara]

Nathaniel "Big Up" Pinney has signed for Kingstonian.

I'll miss Ian Daly being upside down and inside out in pink and blue but he did turn into a bit part player toward the end of the season when Gavin seemed to have lost faith in him being our forward. When Harry regained fitness, in my opinion that appeared to be it for Daly. More releases and 5 new signings apparently. It'll be an interesting few weeks.

Oh, go on then.... One last time:

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

I think Ottaway is definitely a better player tbf. If Ian Daly had any sort of pace at all then he'd be comparable on ability, but he really doesn't. He seems like a nice guy so I hope he does well though.

Apart from him you'd think there'd be some defenders leaving, given the defensive record last year. Okoye and maybe Gonsalves as well?

 

[vornstyle76]

Ahhh man...

I came out of the season these contradictory views. On the one hand I think if Stefan Payne had signed for us rather than Hornchurch we could have conceivably squeezed ahead of Wealdstone. On the other hand (more of a bright pink lobster pincer), I adored Ian Daly, such an aesthetic joy, and someone who inspired one of my weirder acts of creativity (see above). That's the dichotomy isn't it? Success or Beauty? PICK ONE! Aaaarrrrggghhhhh!! Edit: I'm actually surprised he scored as many as 13 goals.

Also, I'm not giving up the song. They can take Daly Ross but not Ian Diana too.

♫ Upside down... Dulwich Hamlet... ♫

 

[Jamie Wyatt]

I think Ottaway is definitely a better player tbf. If Ian Daly had any sort of pace at all then he'd be comparable on ability, but he really doesn't. He seems like a nice guy so I hope he does well though.

Apart from him you'd think there'd be some defenders leaving, given the defensive record last year. Okoye and maybe Gonsalves as well?

Really? I think Lewis Gonslaves has been our best defender for the last few years and is the last defender I would want to see leave!

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Really? I think Lewis Gonslaves has been our best defender for the last few years and is the last defender I would want to see leave!

Tbf I'm always at the other end getting drunk so maybe I'm not the best judge! Just speculating really - the defence wasn't great last year so any of them might be off.

 

[G Man]

Did my disposal of the hat influence any decision? I also felt more comfortable with Diana anyway.

 

[EDC]

Did my disposal of the hat influence any decision? I also felt more comfortable with Diana anyway.

I think it's more to do with him having his song nicked after my back flick at the Wealdstone reserve match.

 

[Joe K]

Really? I think Lewis Gonslaves has been our best defender for the last few years and is the last defender I would want to see leave!

Spot on. I'd be upset if Chewy left, he's completely unsung. A technically very accomplished player and a quiet, but influential, presence. His ability to play out is actually quite important to the style of football we play.

 

[Joe K]

Fuck me, I'm gutted about Daly. Songs apart, I thought he never really got a chance in what would have been his best position thanks to the roll-the-years-back form of Kevin James. He had moments when you could really see his pedigree, the DDCM being only the most flamboyant of them. Look at some of the videos of this season and see how often he plays a significant role in a goal with subtle little passes and so on - Vidal's screamer at Enfield started with a little nudge from Daly, and of course there was that genius 1-2 for Erhun's chip at Hemel. He also made Kavanagh's at Wealdstone with a knock-down from a long pass. I think he had far more of an influence than is generally acknowledged, and that's before his goals.