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Fully Automated Luxury Communism by Aaron Bastani – a manifesto for the future

bastani does inadvertently raise some interesting questions about how we create a movement which is inclusive and allows knackered and alienated people to get involved. Maybe even one where getting involved could circumvent some of that twitchy compulsive social media Netflix individualised existence.

Yeah, but it's bollocks though isn't it - for a number of reasons.

Firstly, are people more knackered now than when they worked in mines and steelworks but still found the energy to build industrial unions and win and enforce agreements at work? Or is that they don't feel the 'issues' as deeply or are lacking the immediate tools at hand to do something about them?

Second, people still do stuff - but its either isolated and pointless clicktivism or its hobbyist leftie stuff of zero or little relevance outside of the bubble.

Thirdly, from what you've written all of his examples are both top down and based on mere passive mass 'voting'.

I think your comment is partly driving at point two and I agree that this is an urgent question. I just wouldn't use Bastani to frame the question.
 
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Idiot whop can't find useful things to do at home.

There's only so many useful things you can find to do round the house, and some people find their employment reduced after being really busy and never really had time to think about or develop their internal motivations.
 
Has it got much on the moon mining stuff? How to build a sustainable cooperative society on earth by exploiting mineral wealth on zebra-9-garfunkel etc. Love that shit.
 
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Are you certain you didn't mean to post this on the "what are you playing at the moment?" thread - your timing is uncanny and I thought I had clicked on the wrong thread for a sec. :D
Is that a gaming thing? Last game I played was football manager 2014
 
Has it got much on the moon mining stuff? How to build a sustainable cooperative society on earth by exploiting mineral wealth on zebra-9-garfunkel etc. Love that shit.

yeah apparently the new tech will require shitloads of minerals (lithium?) and there is an asteroid worth a million squillion dollars that is filled with it. And that won’t lead to any kind of military struggle for it all.
 
Has it got much on the moon mining stuff? How to build a sustainable cooperative society on earth by exploiting mineral wealth on zebra-9-garfunkel etc. Love that shit.

Ive just glanced at the article and video but there is some mention of mining cobalt off meteors, which I’ve read elsewhere before and funnily enough reminded me of the film Avatar (humans mining an alien planet).

Also the reference to synthetic meat (3D printed steaks) reminded me of Blade Runner 2049.
 
Ive just glanced at the article and video but there is some mention of mining cobalt off meteors, which I’ve read elsewhere before and funnily enough reminded me of the film Avatar (humans mining an alien planet).

Also the reference to synthetic meat (3D printed steaks) reminded me of Blade Runner 2049.

3D printed steak, what a future
 
Thanks Fozzie Bear , you've saved me the job of reading this blob of nothingness.

I have one question, which I may regret asking in respect of blood pressure, but does Bastani explain how the value and capital created by new technology will be shared and equitable rather than captured by those who own it? Does he like Mason believe that this technology can't be monetised in the same way as old technology?

'Since they did not know how to change society, they indulged in the hope that the future would solve the problem.' Paul Mattick writing his review in 1949.
 
I have to say I get more satisfaction (?) these days from reading old primo texts than all this FALC bollocks. I'd take my chances armed with a bow & arrows rather than succumb to the dismal future of 3D printed sausages on tap.
 
Just finished the book - crossposted from the reading challenge thread:

30/30 Aaron Bastani - Fully Luxury Automated Communism: A Manifesto

This was always going to be a bit of a hate-read for me but to his credit the author is slightly less annoying in book form than in his media incarnation. Most of the book describes technological developments which are probably going to shake things up in the course of the rest of my time on this shitpit of a planet. I found a lot of this section pretty tedious and it reminded me of the breathless puff pieces you would get in 1990s tech mags like Wired, Boing Boing and Mondo 2000. I don't really give a shit what Bastanti thinks about genetic engineering.

Where those magazines fell down was that their utopianism relied entirely on technology to make our lives better. Which it has in some ways but the fact remains that I now exchange most of my time in a windowless basement frantically answering emails, tinkering with Word documents and trying to understand spreadsheets for the money I need to pay for my mortgage and the Morrisons bill. Oh and for the latest iPhone.

So you'd hope Aaron would get to grips with this what the Communism being in the title and all. As many other reviewers have noted he doesn't do this. The optimism of the book is not tempered with any suggestion that these technological innovations might cause us some problems. For example the prospects for a workless dystopia enforced by robots and genetic engineering. Or even that the technology itself, as developed under the capitalist mode of production might have some horrific knock on effects in the same way that the industrial revolution lead directly to the climate crisis.

He also, weirdly, thinks that, during the twentieth century "Whether you were an employee or an industrialist, it was in your rational interest to protect the system" and "until now, communism was impossible". Which kind of shits on the workers' movement, but whatever. Now that it is possible, how do we get there? Again, as others have pointed out, it's through the ballot box, daddio. Because most people are too knackered by life to get into politics in a sustained way. Which is on the one hand a neat criticism of hyper activists like Extinction Rebellion, but on the other hand flies in the face of the fact that it is "kicking off everywhere" as Bastani's fellow techno-optimist Paul Mason has it. Clearly a lot of people in Hong Kong, Chile, Lebanon etc do have time for this sort of thing. As do the campaigners out to save Latin Village in Seven Sisters just up the road from where I am typing this. (It's also strange that there is no futuristic techno-utopian vision of how political campaigning may change in here but perhaps that is another book).

So in summary - there is a huge change in how we live and work on the horizon. And there is an optimistic vision of how this will make our lives better. But it relies on political specialists in parliament, and technological specialists who are currently developing everything at breakneck speed under the capitalist mode of production. Here comes the new boss.
Now sitting across from someone on a train reading this. Shall I make an intervention? (I will not make an intervention).
 
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