Forthcoming movies you're eagerly awaiting

[platinumsage]

I like to add promising upcoming movies to my bookmarks so I don't end up missing them when they're released. Here's a cpouple I have at the moment. I usually find them by checking the future plans of actors that I like, but there are probably better ways:

Armageddon Time - biopic of the director's childhood in New York in the 1980s. He's played by the promising young Banks Repeta, while Anne Hathaway and Jeremy Strong play his parents, and Anthony Hopkins his Grandfather. Expected Oct 2022.

Killers of the Flower Moon - It'll be interesting seeing Leonardo DiCaprio and Jesse Plemmons work together. Something to do with J. Edgar Hoover and an FBI investigation into murders on a Native American reservation. Expected Nov 2022

What are you looking forward to?

 

[High Voltage]

Based on my current experience in the "Framed Thread"

NONE OF THEM

no new films at all, there's enough films already, even the one's I've seen I can't remember seeing, so why make any more

 

[T & P]

Before Covid there’d always be loads of them every year. I guess it would be unreasonable to expect a return to 10+ films per year one is really looking forward to right after the Covid restrictions have eased up, so I won’t complain for the remaining of this calendar year about the lack of such films.

But I’d like to think next year we’ll return to the previous level of number of films to be looking forward to, because right now there’s precious little that excites me, and then an even bigger share of all forthcoming big cinema releases are super-fucking-hero genre.

But to try to end on a positive note, we went to the cinema last week to watch Thor: Love and Thunder (which FWIW is funny as fuck and one of the most enjoyable Marvel films ever), and I was highly intrigued by the trailer for Brad Pitt’s Bullet Train

 

[bcuster]

NOPE, the new Jordan Peele movie. i posted the "short" trailer on the peele thread...

 

[8ball]

Before Covid there’d always be loads of them every year. I guess it would be unreasonable to expect a return to 10+ films per year one is really looking forward to right after the Covid restrictions have eased up, so I won’t complain for the remaining of this calendar year about the lack of such films.

But I’d like to think next year we’ll return to the previous level of number of films to be looking forward to, because right now there’s precious little that excites me, and then an even bigger share of all forthcoming big cinema releases are super-fucking-hero genre.

But to try to end on a positive note, we went to the cinema last week to watch Thor: Love and Thunder (which FWIW is funny as fuck and one of the most enjoyable Marvel films ever), and I was highly intrigued by the trailer for Brad Pitt’s Bullet Train

That’s quite counter to the reviews of the Thor film that I’ve glanced at so far.

Did you watch it totally straight, or do you have any psychopharmacological recommendations to accompany the experience?

 

[T & P]

That’s quite counter to the reviews of the Thor film that I’ve glanced at so far.

Did you watch it totally straight, or do you have any psychopharmacological recommendations to accompany the experience?

I only went to watch it because friends of ours currently visiting from Jordan, who have kids aged 13 & 10 who love Marvel shit, wanted to see it. Incidentally, the depressing reason why they were so keen to watch it whilst in the UK is because the film will very likely be banned or severely edited in Jordan and indeed most ME countries, due to the presence of a few gay characters and themes.

But anyways, as I might have mentioned in another thread already, this is actually far more a Carry On in space film than a superhero genre one. A farcical slapstick/ borderline fucking panto product at times in fact. And for that alone I enjoyed it far more than I thought I would. Because at the end of the day, you can have very good and awfully bad superhero films like in any other genre. But those that are deemed bad ones should be judged so if they’re badly acted, produced or written, rather than for their self-parodying nature alone.

I guess that’s the very reason why the film is so marmite. I certainly would have never expected to see a certain A-list Hollywood male actor prancing around in a mini skirt in a surreal cameo appearance as utterly ridiculous and camp as it was funny as fuck- at least to anyone who isn’t a misery pants or a superhero ultra nerd who needs to get out more.

 

[krtek a houby]

That non - Marvel multiverse Michelle Yeoh yarn

 

[8ball]

I only went to watch it because friends of ours currently visiting from Jordan, who have kids aged 13 & 10 who love Marvel shit, wanted to see it. Incidentally, the depressing reason why they were so keen to watch it whilst in the UK is because the film will very likely be banned or severely edited in Jordan and indeed most ME countries, due to the presence of a few gay characters and themes.

But anyways, as I might have mentioned in another thread already, this is actually far more a Carry On in space film than a superhero genre one. A farcical slapstick/ borderline fucking panto product at times in fact. And for that alone I enjoyed it far more than I thought I would.

I guess that’s the very reason why the film is so marmite. I certainly would have never expected to see a certain A-list Hollywood male actor prancing around in a mini skirt in a surreal cameo appearance as utterly ridiculous and camp as it was funny as fuck- at least to anyone who isn’t a misery pants or a superhero ultra nerd who needs to get out more.

I think that was the problem. Phoning in a pantomime pisstake of a genre film is all good if you don't have an existing fanbase that is involved with the characters etc.

Not that I give a toss about the Marvel shizz, but I can understand the response of the remaining few who still do.

 

[T & P]

I think that was the problem. Phoning in a pantomime pisstake of a genre film is all good if you don't have an existing fanbase that is involved with the characters etc.

Not that I give a toss about the Marvel shizz, but I can understand the response of the remaining few who still do.

Yeah in a way so do I, and I would even concede that those who are really, really invested in established superhero comic wares as the Marvel or DC universes might think of it as a step too far.

But I’d still wager that in this country at least, a good two thirds of those who might enjoy watching a superhero genre film at the movies do so because it’s an entertaining cinema experience, rather than because they have an ingrained passion for superhero comics. From Marvel to Star Wars to Star Trek to Janes Bond, TV series and films have oscillated over time from the very faithful to the original premise but grim to the cheerful yet far removed offerings.

Ultimately if a certain film within a given universe is well produced and enjoyable enough, I’d much prefer it to a Comic Con nerd-compliant flick that might respect canon to the letter but is as entertaining as a visit to the corner shop.

 

[8ball]

Ultimately if a certain film within a given universe is well produced and enjoyable enough, I’d much prefer it to a Comic Con nerd-compliant flick that might respect canon to the letter but is as entertaining as a visit to the corner shop.

They've been frequently failing on both counts recently, so at least its a partial win.

 

[krtek a houby]

Yeah in a way so do I, and I would even concede that those who are really, really invested in established superhero comic wares as the Marvel or DC universes might think of it as a step too far.

But I’d still wager that in this country at least, a good two thirds of those who might enjoy watching a superhero genre film at the movies do so because it’s an entertaining cinema experience, rather than because they have an ingrained passion for superhero comics. From Marvel to Star Wars to Star Trek to Janes Bond, TV series and films have oscillated over time from the very faithful to the original premise but grim to the cheerful yet far removed offerings.

Ultimately if a certain film within a given universe is well produced and enjoyable enough, I’d much prefer it to a Comic Con nerd-compliant flick that might respect canon to the letter but is as entertaining as a visit to the corner shop.

Good call

Been a comics fan for nearly 50 years and appreciate the faithful adaptations and versions that fuck around with the originals.

Gets samey samey otherwise. Shouldn't be any sacred cows, imho

 

[krtek a houby]

Mean, the kind of "fan" that social media is awash with, who rages about their childhoods being ruined etc can do one.


The fragile snowflakes.

 

[8ball]

Gets samey samey otherwise. Shouldn't be any sacred cows, imho

Yeah, it's when they piss on their own canon from just a couple of films back and remove any sense of jeopardy because characters can be resurrected on demand that it all goes a bit limp.

 

[krtek a houby]

Yeah, it's when they piss on their own canon from just a couple of films back and remove any sense of jeopardy because characters can be resurrected on demand that it all goes a bit limp.

Yeah, get that but... so many films and shows have done that since the birth of cinema/TV/comics... really doesn't bother that much...

 

[T & P]

Good call

Been a comics fan for nearly 50 years and appreciate the faithful adaptations and versions that fuck around with the originals.

Gets samey samey otherwise. Shouldn't be any sacred cows, imho.

Yes, quite. I’ve long seen the JJ Abrams’s 2009 Star Trek reboot as a classic example of this. It played fast and loose with the established timeline and canon of arguably the biggest sci-fi universe of them all, which naturally upset some ST enthusiasts no end. But then it also managed to revitalise (some might even say save from oblivion) the franchise, and more importantly engage plenty of cinemagoers who wouldn’t normally give two shits about it or bother to check out any of the ST series even if freely available on their TV.

 

[8ball]

Yeah, get that but... so many films and shows have done that since the birth of cinema/TV/comics... really doesn't bother that much...

You can't make a satisfying narrative with any threat or tension if anyone who dies can be brought back at any time.
It's just shit storytelling.

I have no beef with doing reboots, changing character attributes etc. etc. but at least try not to defecate all over the little sub-universe you've made out of laziness or contempt for your audience.

It's the fans of a franchise who are going to bring in the bulk of the cash, and they tend to come back reliably if you don't fuck it up.
Makes it a waste of effort to make these films when you could just fill a van with used bank notes and set it on fire.

This post makes me sound like I care a lot more than I actually do - I gave up on the big cash cow franchises a long time ago.

Except for The Boys.
They better not fuck that up.

 

[krtek a houby]

Yes, quite. I’ve long seen the JJ Abrams’s 2009 Star Trek reboot as a classic example of this. It played fast and loose with the established timeline and canon of arguably the biggest sci-fi universe of them all, which naturally upset some ST enthusiasts no end. But then it also managed to revitalise (some might even say save from oblivion) the franchise, and more importantly engage plenty of cinemagoers who wouldn’t normally give two shits about it or bother to check out any of the ST series even if freely available on their TV.

It did the impossible and cajoled the better half into watching new Trek, which was something that was unexpected.

The Trek/Star Wars/Marvel complainers are really really tiresome and there's often a crossover with far right eejits.


And no, obviously, not all the critical folks on the new instalments are right wing trolls but there's a fair few of them.

 

[8ball]

Yes, quite. I’ve long seen the JJ Abrams’s 2009 Star Trek reboot as a classic example of this. It played fast and loose with the established timeline and canon of arguably the biggest sci-fi universe of them all, which naturally upset some ST enthusiasts no end. But then it also managed to revitalise (some might even say save from oblivion) the franchise, and more importantly engage plenty of cinemagoers who wouldn’t normally give two shits about it or bother to check out any of the ST series even if freely available on their TV.

It ran out of steam, but I did enjoy the first one.

(and the second, but that's just between us)

 

[krtek a houby]

You can't make a satisfying narrative with any threat or tension if anyone who dies can be brought back at any time.
It's just shit storytelling.

I have no beef with doing reboots, changing character attributes etc. etc. but at least try not to defecate all over the little sub-universe you've made out of laziness or contempt for your audience.

It's the fans of a franchise who are going to bring in the bulk of the cash, and they tend to come back reliably if you don't fuck it up.
Makes it a waste of effort to make these films when you could just fill a van with used bank notes and set it on fire.

This post makes me sound like I care a lot more than I actually do - I gave up on the big cash cow franchises a long time ago.

Except for The Boys.
They better not fuck that up.

Fictional characters are resurrected all the time, tbf.

Conan Doyle brought back Sherlock Holmes after an outcry.


And that Jesus guy was dead, for only 3 days before his next adventure...

 

[8ball]

Fictional characters are resurrected all the time, tbf.

Conan Doyle brought back Sherlock Holmes after an outcry.


And that Jesus guy was dead, for only 3 days before his next adventure...

The Sherlock thing would be done quietly within the focus group stage these days.
And the Jesus thing was more a feature than a bug.

 

[T & P]

It did the impossible and cajoled the better half into watching new Trek, which was something that was unexpected.

The Trek/Star Wars/Marvel complainers are really really tiresome and there's often a crossover with far right eejits.


And no, obviously, not all the critical folks on the new instalments are right wing trolls but there's a fair few of them.

Yeah, sadly there’s a fair amount of that too, complete with orchestrated rating downvote campaigns organised by the likes of 4-chan.

I think it was Captain Marvel (or if not, another recent superhero film in which the main lead was a woman anyway), which as it happens is one of the best ever single superhero Marvel films, that not only received initial ludicrously negative public ratings on the likes of IMDB, but did so a couple of days before anyone had seen the film as it hadn’t actually been released yet

 

[8ball]

Yeah, sadly there’s a fair amount of that too, complete with orchestrated rating downvote campaigns organised by the likes of 4-chan.

I think it was Captain Marvel (or if not, another recent superhero film in which the main lead was a woman anyway), which as it happens is one of the best ever single superhero Marvel films, that not only received initial ludicrously negative public ratings on the likes of IMDB, but did so a couple of days before anyone had seen the film as it hadn’t actually been released yet

I would just rate Captain Marvel as "not all that bad".
Trying now to think of single-hero Marvel films to compare it to...

Was there a Hawkeye film?

 

[T & P]

Mean, the kind of "fan" that social media is awash with, who rages about their childhoods being ruined etc can do one.


The fragile snowflakes.

I would never claimed ruined childhood trauma, but to be fair there is the odd valid example that might qualify. The recent Star Wars sequel trilogy was very flawed and each film had its own set of problems with it, but most SW fans below Sheldon Cooper nerd level will have probably enjoyed them to varying degrees.

On the other hand, the prequel trilogy is not just highly flawed but such a boring, miscast, badly written, even worse acted steaming pile of shite that its failings transcend far beyond the complains of any fan of the franchise, and become the simple matter of a film that is simply unacceptably bad regardless of canon adherence. Made far worse by the fact that they had a massive budget and wealth of acting talent at their disposal.

 

[T & P]

I would just rate Captain Marvel as "not all that bad".
Trying now to think of single-hero Marvel films to compare it to...

Was there a Hawkeye film?

Apparently (I read this only last week), Marvel’s policy is to devote no more than three films to any individual hero/ group. This most recent Thor outing being the one exception to that rule to date.

Ultimately I am nowhere near interested enough on comic genre films to care that much so I judge them mostly individually on their entertainment and production values. I rather enjoyed the first Iron Man, was completely underwhelmed by the subsequent sequels. Ditto Captain America, Guardians of the Galaxy, Ant Man, and a number of other single and multiple outings of other characters I struggle to even remember.

I guess I was predisposed to like Captain Marvel from the off partly because its very existence pissed off the alt-right so much, but also because it delivered the right blend of action, drama and entertainment you’d expect from a blockbuster film, and without drawing on the ‘end of the entire universe’ high stakes premise of other Marvel films. Plus it’s set in the 70s, has a cat as a semi-main character, and you get to find out what happened to Samuel L
Jackson’s eye. What’s not to like?

Re Hawkeye: in the films I have always found the character both deeply boring and non-credible even within the context of a superhero universe, because at the end of the day he’s a normie with no powers and a conveniently limitless amount of arrows somehow managing to square off against supervillains with superpowers. But credit where it’s due, the recent Disney+ miniseries featuring him was actually very good and made him look far more relatable and interesting.

 

[krtek a houby]

Captain Marvel was most enjoyable however,it was set in the 90s not 70s.

Hawkeye was surprisingly good as well but not entirely convinced with the villain, who had been served better in another Marvel series.

 

[8ball]

Apparently (I read this only last week), Marvel’s policy is to devote no more than three films to any individual hero/ group. This most recent Thor outing being the one exception to that rule to date.

Ultimately I am nowhere near interested enough on comic genre films to care that much so I judge them mostly individually on their entertainment and production values. I rather enjoyed the first Iron Man, was completely underwhelmed by the subsequent sequels. Ditto Captain America, Guardians of the Galaxy, Ant Man, and a number of other single and multiple outings of other characters I struggle to even remember.

I guess I was predisposed to like Captain Marvel from the off partly because its very existence pissed off the alt-right so much, but also because it delivered the right blend of action, drama and entertainment you’d expect from a blockbuster film, and without drawing on the ‘end of the entire universe’ high stakes premise of other Marvel films. Plus it’s set in the 70s, has a cat as a semi-main character, and you get to find out what happened to Samuel L
Jackson’s eye. What’s not to like?

Re Hawkeye: in the films I have always found the character both deeply boring and non-credible even within the context of a superhero universe, because at the end of the day he’s a normie with no powers and a conveniently limitless amount of arrows somehow managing to square off against supervillains with superpowers. But credit where it’s due, the recent Disney+ miniseries featuring him was actually very good and made him look far more relatable and interesting.

I did like the cat tbf.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

NOPE, the new Jordan Peele movie. i posted the "short" trailer on the peele thread...

I was just about to say Jordan Peele's Nope. Went to the cinema the other day to see the latest Jurassic Park and saw a trailer for Nope. Jordan Peele's work is superlative, one of the best filmmakers out there.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

I'm also looking forward to Everything Everywhere All At Once, plan to see that tomorrow night.

 

[8ball]

I'm also looking forward to Everything Everywhere All At Once, plan to see that tomorrow night.

 

[DotCommunist]

Second part of Dune. The opening film was strong but the next one is the meat of it.