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The government has revealed new regulations about flag flying in the UK, just in case you wondered how normal everything is going here.

Thread here :


 
An increasingly right-wing government orders the compulsory flying of the national flag. Nothing to worry about.
It’s depressing.

UK in the news.
⁃more difficult for asylum seekers to stay
⁃10 years for peaceful protest
⁃mandatory flags
⁃statues sacrosanct
⁃systemic Gypsy, Traveller, Roma discrimination
⁃police violence
- greed idealised
 
why are they doing this, is it to try to celebrate the happy post-brexit heroism of our plucky nation or is it to try to head off the inevitable breakup of the union with some weird idea of subliminal messaging.
I do find it frightening tbh. Have an irrational gut reaction to flags that's similar to when i see a load of men in identical t-shirts like football ones walking towards me, a little bit of fear.
 
why are they doing this, is it to try to celebrate the happy post-brexit heroism of our plucky nation or is it to try to head off the inevitable breakup of the union with some weird idea of subliminal messaging.
I do find it frightening tbh. Have an irrational gut reaction to flags that's similar to when i see a load of men in identical t-shirts like football ones walking towards me, a little bit of fear.
the primacy of the nation, toward which one has duties superior to every right, whether individual or universal, and the subordination of the individual to it.

Expressed as “pride in flag, Queen and country”.
 
Someone, please, tell Paul Brand the difference between the Union Flag and the Union Jack.

I leave aside the purpose of such a jingoistic display.
 
To further stoke the culture war and thicken dividing lines. Don't play their game.
What do you mean by don't play their game? Acquiesce? Be uncurious?
Hang on wasn't it you said just yesterday that anyone who talks about any difficulties arising out of the brexit that's happening is 'politically unmoored' ? You're having a laugh saying don't play their dividing game.
 
I don't have a problem seeing the Union Jack a bit more.

I remember last time I was in Yorkshire there were lots of English flags.

I don't an issue with either. But its about context and, in this case, the political intent of the Government.

We can sit here now and write the headlines, the furious twitter debate, the posturing, the 'though pieces, the tortured Labour response etc now couldn't we.
 
so what is the official term for people who support more union Jacks everywhere flag shagger or flag wankers
 
so what is the official term for people who support more union Jacks everywhere flag shagger or flag wankers
Just arseholes. Having lived in two countries (China and the US) where the national flag is everywhere I'm really not keen on this. But if there is a strategy beyond swivel-eyed wank fantasies it will be to draw people into anti-flag positions and accuse them of being anti-Britain.
 
What do you mean by don't play their game? Acquiesce? Be uncurious?
Hang on wasn't it you said just yesterday that anyone who talks about any difficulties arising out of the brexit that's happening is 'politically unmoored' ? You're having a laugh saying don't play their dividing game.

What I mean is this. People can't put food on the table, unemployment is rocketing especially among young people: as the furlough ends both problems will intensify. 130,000 have died from Covid and Johnson's policy of profit before lives. 25% of workers have had their contracts of employment attacked in the last 12 months. The right to protest is being curbed. Women are murdered on the streets by cops. A long hot summer is on the horizon.

A lengthy debate about flags (and 'the difficulties arising out of Brexit' as you seem to insist its linked to) needs to be put into that context. In whose interests does it serve and to what ends? To achieve what purpose? Once you've answered that you can decide if you want to play along with their game.
 
What I mean is this. People can't put food on the table, unemployment is rocketing especially among young people: as the furlough ends both problems will intensify. 130,000 have died from Covid and Johnson's policy of profit before lives. 25% of workers have had their contracts of employment attacked in the last 12 months. The right to protest is being curbed. Women are murdered on the streets by cops. A long hot summer is on the horizon.

A lengthy debate about flags (and 'the difficulties arising out of Brexit' as you seem to insist its linked to) needs to be put into that context. In whose interests does it serve and to what ends? To achieve what purpose? Once you've answered that you can decide if you want to play along with their game.
i'm not looking for a lengthy debate about flags. If i am pissed off about flags or not doesn't make any difference whatsoever to all of the above, does it.
But you of all people talking about 'don't stoke the dividing lines' is a bit rich, given your yesterdays pronouncements.
If I was a cheerfuller person i'd laugh.
 
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