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ah tbf it just the tory party trying to ape Donald Trump lets build a base of flag waving fucknuts

next election

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More than likely and then when they lose we can wonder what their next idea is going to be
 
There is some shower gel in the £1 section in my local pharmacy that smells of poppies and has silhouettes of skinny soldiers and barbed wire against a red sky. Can’t even bring myself to buy one just to post a picture of it on social media
 
Will go down well in Northern Ireland and Scotland.
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If Government buildings are mandated (as I believe they are) to fly the Union Jack here in Wales, catapult sales are going to go through the roof, along with some kind of flechette ammunition.
 
I wonder how long it will be before the Government announces that the national flag of the UK will become the Conservative Party flag :D? Starmer, will, naturally, acquiesce.
 
there official name is the conservative and union party

they just don't use it anymore
 
aye but that was the DUP's money

the Flag waving shite plays to a certain demographic in parts of the country

trying to claw back some of the spend
 
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conservative and unionist. The full name was in prominence around the time they bunged the DUP a billion from the magic money tree in a confidence and supply agreement

It's always the full name on the ballot papers of course.

TBH I thought govt buildings already flew the union flag.

Someone should dress in total flag and poppy bedecked costume, mask, poppies on shoes, in hair, hanging off poppy / union flag themed glasses, massive felt red white and blue hat, carrying flags... you get the idea, a fractalist farago of patriotic pomposity and photo bomb these flaglicking degenerates next time they're out in public.
 
Why do they want this nationalist populism? I doubt it is a sincere belief; so it must be some ploy or useful in some way. Trump tried to do something similar in the States. Add in the focus on criticising and trying to muzzle the media and the 'post-truth' duplicity and lack of accountability: what are we looking at?
 
Why do they want this nationalist populism? I doubt it is a sincere belief; so it must be some ploy or useful in some way. Trump tried to do something similar in the States. Add in the focus on criticising and trying to muzzle the media and the 'post-truth' duplicity and lack of accountability: what are we looking at?

The same reason any establishment promotes nationalist populism, an attempt to rally public support behind them.

Also rising support for secessionism.

They don't look at the reasons for people in the periphery of the UK might feel unrepresented and conclude that the UK just lacks a strong unified national identity.

However, the UK lacks a strong unified national identity because it is one of the most centralised countries on the planet with London and the South East playing a ridiculously outsized role.


I think the idea that flag shagging will appeal to the troglodytes outside London is borne of ignorance generated by London's central role in culture, media and politics. It is in fact another symptom of the same problem which is leading to a rise in secessionist movements. The Labour leadership being unresponsive, Whitehall focused and authoritarian is also partly a product of an over-centralised system and is undermining democratic engagement as a way to pursue change.

This is the root of the problem and putting flags everywhere won't do anything to address it and will probably backfire.
 
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Cheaper and easier than coming up with solid policies to improve people's lot? I think it's more endgame than that. To restrict democracy and accountability ultimately.
 
Cheaper and easier than coming up with solid policies to improve people's lot? I think it's more endgame than that. To restrict democracy and accountability ultimately.

I think its more being out of ideas and failing to really understand the country outside their bubble, and also an unwillingness to understand.

I don't think there's a clear strategic endgame. If the last few years have taught us anything, it's that this government aren't masterminds. They just bumble through with no plan and no foresight.

This isn't to downplay their growing authoritarianism which we should take seriously, but I think it's being driven primarily by reaction, fear, entitlement and confusion, and stems from the country being ran by an insular social milieu of public school and Oxbridge who are out of touch, who can see discontent brewing in the country and feel threatened by it, but don't understand the reasons behind it or how to deal with it.
 
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You may be right, but the last few years have also taught us that they are vicious, greedy and brazenly manipulative. Boris Johnson or Priti Patel may not be masterminds, but their class, their apparatus is working fine it seems. Class war with a 'bumbling' flag-waving frontman is still real.
 
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