Family sex show cancelled

[Idaho]

The Family Sex Show cancelled amid threats and abuse at staff

Nearly 40,000 people signed a petition calling on the theatre performance to be axed.

www.bbc.com

I feel a bit sad for them. But to be honest it sounds toe curlingly cringey. Like Legs Akimbo in league of gentlemen. And giving it the faux racey/controversial title was always going to set some people off.

 

[friedaweed]

Family sex show cancelled

Legs Akimbo

The first thing that came to my mind.

Having seen a few of these types of theatre productions in educational settings I've often observed that it's the kids that think they're shit and the adults that love the whole 'Ohh Matroness' about them.

The second photo in the beeb scoop just about sums it up.

Would be a good thread in general this

 

[Pickman's model]

Family sex show cancelled

I feel a bit sad for them. But to be honest it sounds toe curlingly cringey. Like Legs Akimbo in league of gentlemen. And giving it the faux racey/controversial title was always going to set some people off.

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[Idaho]

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[skyscraper101]

It does indeed sound cringe but without seeing it I can't really judge, and it does sound like the whole point was to be educational and fun for kids so on that basis I'm all for it. They even confirmed there was input and guidance from educational and safeguarding specialists so that would be reassuring enough for me.

But being forced to cancel because of "threats" just proves there are still plenty of morons about who would rather jump to the conclusion that it's inappropriate.

 

[JimW]

Lefty cancel culture Oh, sorry, no, last bastion of decency against the pervs...

 

[Santino]

It does indeed sound cringe but without seeing it I can't really judge, and it does sound like the whole point was to be educational and fun for kids so on that basis I'm all for it. They even confirmed there was input and guidance from educational and safeguarding specialists so that would be reassuring enough for me.

If it was dodgy, I expect they'd just leave out such assurances so as not to mislead anyone.

 

[trashpony]

I’m really not clear who this show is aimed at.

Infant school aged children don’t need to see naked adults on stage, or people simulating sex. Young children don’t need to understand about consent because they can’t.

And while those are useful things for older children to understand, I can’t imagine anything more cringy than going to watch a show like this with your parents. Most kids can’t even stand to watch kissing on telly with their parents in the room.

So who is it for?

 

[Ax^]

It does indeed sound cringe but without seeing it I can't really judge, and it does sound like the whole point was to be educational and fun for kids so on that basis I'm all for it. They even confirmed there was input and guidance from educational and safeguarding specialists so that would be reassuring enough for me.

But being forced to cancel because of "threats" just proves there are still plenty of morons about who would rather jump to the conclusion that it's inappropriate.

I'm guessing the threats and outrage seemed a little from the USA current sex ed/anything LGBTQ is pedo nonsense that is running riot with the right in America

shit always start creeping over :/

 

[8ball]

Young children don’t need to understand about consent because they can’t.

The later consent stuff links in naturally to what kids should be taught about the boundaries they have a right to keep over whether and where and how they are touched, but I really can't see how this in particular is appropriate for under 16 or so (in which case they'd be mortified to be at such a thing with their parents).

Bizarrely conceived.

 

[killer b]

Young children don’t need to understand about consent because they can’t.

don't they need to be taught about consent then, so they know what not consenting is?

 

[skyscraper101]

At a guess, maybe one of the main objectives from the show is to make everything less mortifyingly embarrassing for children, so kids are enabled to feel more at ease with discussing bodies and sex from an early age.

 

[trashpony]

don't they need to be taught about consent then, so they know what not consenting is?

Im an age appropriate way - all they need to know is the pants rule and that no one should touch them.

You cannot talk about sex, pleasure and consent in such a way that it would be comprehensible to a 5 year old and relevant to a 14 year old. Or vice versa. It’s why RSE lessons have different content at different ages.

 

[Idris2002]

I've seen on twitter - it may or may not be true - that the people behind this said that they had sought safeguarding advice from the NSPCC, to which that organization said "it's news to us, guv, never heard of, or from, these folks". If that's true, it's definitely one for the "things that make you go hmmm" file.

 

[Idaho]

So who is it for?

So many of these theatrey things seem to be for the benefit of those working on the theatre. They require subsidies and grants to make most productions viable.

 

[trashpony]

I think it sounds potentially a really interesting show. I just think it’s probably more suitable for adults/ teens who will probably want to go without their parents.

 

[killer b]

Im an age appropriate way - all they need to know is the pants rule and that no one should touch them.

You cannot talk about sex, pleasure and consent in such a way that it would be comprehensible to a 5 year old and relevant to a 14 year old. Or vice versa. It’s why RSE lessons have different content at different ages.

It does seem to be quite a wide age range to cover with a theatre show, probably a bit ambitious there.

 

[trashpony]

So many of these theatrey things seem to be for the benefit of those working on the theatre. They require subsidies and grants to make most productions viable.

Yeah I worked with a charity who got an arts council grant and we had to put in loads of bolt ons and crap to get the money.

 

[killer b]

So many of these theatrey things seem to be for the benefit of those working on the theatre. They require subsidies and grants to make most productions viable.

most art apart from the most brazenly commercial is subsidised tbf. if it wasn't it'd be even more of a plaything for the rich than it already is

 

[Idaho]

At a guess, maybe one of the main objectives from the show is to make everything less mortifyingly embarrassing for children, so kids are enabled to feel more at ease with discussing bodies and sex from an early age.

It's mainly the presence of adults that makes it mortifying. Kids always seem pretty happy to talk about sex topics amongst themselves.

 

[Spymaster]

"Family" and "sex" are two words that should really never be used in conjunction.

 

[maomao]

It's mainly the presence of adults that makes it mortifying. Kids always seem pretty happy to talk about sex topics amongst themselves.

I teach PSHE to kids and teenagers (11-14) and they don't know as much as they think they do. I do love embarrassing them with the idea that middle aged and old people can have healthy sex lives though. No details required, just the very idea tends to get whoops of disgust.

 

[Idaho]

"Family" and "sex" are two words that should really never be used in conjunction.

And yet you cannot have the former without the latter.

 

[killer b]

"Family" and "sex" are two words that should really never be used in conjunction.

If the stories my children tell me about in-school sex ed are anything like accurate, it's probably best not to leave it to the schools. And it's definitely not best to leave it to their peers. Where does that leave them?

 

[Raheem]

It does seem to be quite a wide age range to cover with a theatre show, probably a bit ambitious there.

It's probably aimed at older kids, but "suitable for" younger kids who there isn't really a choice other than to take along.

 

[maomao]

If the stories my children tell me about in-school sex ed are anything like accurate

It can be very patchy, very few schools have specialist pshe teachers so it tends to be done either in form time or dumped on new teachers like me working from centrally prepared classes.

 

[xenon]

I’m really not clear who this show is aimed at.

Infant school aged children don’t need to see naked adults on stage, or people simulating sex. Young children don’t need to understand about consent because they can’t.

And while those are useful things for older children to understand, I can’t imagine anything more cringy than going to watch a show like this with your parents. Most kids can’t even stand to watch kissing on telly with their parents in the room.

So who is it for?

Yep. I kinda got called repressed or sommat on the other thread for saying who would actually want to see this with their parents. I mean

Also not really surprising they've got the reaction they have with the obvious controversy seeking title

Course I think issues about sex, relationships, consent etc should be taught to kids but this sounds like a misstep...

 

[xenon]

If the stories my children tell me about in-school sex ed are anything like accurate, it's probably best not to leave it to the schools. And it's definitely not best to leave it to their peers. Where does that leave them?

Free lance theatrical groups doesn't seem an obvious answer TBH.

 

[killer b]

Free lance theatrical groups doesn't seem an obvious answer TBH.

none of us will ever know whether it was or not.

 

[trashpony]

If the stories my children tell me about in-school sex ed are anything like accurate, it's probably best not to leave it to the schools. And it's definitely not best to leave it to their peers. Where does that leave them?

Dunno. But I can’t imagine that the parents who take their kids to see things like this will be the ones who want their teenagers to be ill informed.