facebook announces metaverse - someone shut down the world please.
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Raheem
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They said that when the first jigsaw was launched.
Facebook are evil
I did just get followed by the Green Party's Natalie Bennett at Twitter so out of my meagre 592 I now have a contact in the House of Lords. @devereuxmatthew @natalieben A figure like Matthew Hancock, who hasn't tweeted once since his resignation letter, has 436,000 confused people following...
www.urban75.net
Mark Zuckerberg’s “Metaverse” Is a Dystopian Nightmare
The Facebook founder intends to usher in a new era of the internet where there’s no distinction between the virtual and the real — and no logging off.
jacobinmag.com
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
Really dull people getting laughably enthused about dull shit.
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
The biggest problem these ideas have continues to be that nobody wants to spend eight hours-plus a day with a device strapped to their face that divorces them from their surroundings, let alone one they need to pay for. AR is more possible (though Google Glass is a salutary lesson on its social limits), but these people will never be able to resist turning the tech into, well, Facebook. Painful to work with, stuffed with unskippable ads, manipulative and data-hoarding. Most people don't like Facebook as is, and that had the early benefit of people not knowing how much of a shit-tip it was going to be when they signed up - their problem atm is holding onto existing audiences, they're going to struggle with building new ones from scratch.
magneze
🎧
No-one can serve targetted adverts there. In the metaverse, all your pints and fishing will be tracked. Then you can be served adverts for hangover cures and fish pie recipe books. Probably at the bottom of your glass and on the side of any fish you catch.
See? It's all fine. No dystopia here.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
No good will come of this. We're doomed.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
unless it can be used for porn or gaming he's on a hiding to nothing. Second life rebooted
Steel Icarus
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"You cannot lose if you do not play"
stdP
One Swiss dinosaur in Polly Gosling's anorak hood
The metaverse Virtual Pub and Virtual Fishing Lake will have Virtual Pub Boors and Virtual Drunk FIshing Twats who will sidle up to you and inveigle themselves in your conversations with your mates in order to monitor and monetise your behaviour in a realistic virtual reality setting.
"You don't want to drink guiness, you're just doing the bidding of the illuminati! Only AJ PintWars HelfWyzer Stout contains all the recommended daily allowance of pervitin needed to block out FDA mind control rays!"
"Here's something I found on the internet - for a challenge, see if you can cast your line over these high-tension power cables!"
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
moochedit
Mr Mooched It
Opps 
Eu holds metaverse party. 5 people show up and only 1 person left after an hour
futurism.com
Eu holds metaverse party. 5 people show up and only 1 person left after an hour
Man Alarmed to Become Only Guest at $400,000 Metaverse Party
The European Union investing $400k into a 24-hour metaverse "beach party," only to attract a handful of guests — who all left within the first hour.
futurism.com
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
I keep hearing adverts for this. “Metaverse will be used by farmers to improve crop yields, doctors to plan operations, traffic planners to plan traffic” etc.
Surely these are all things that can be done using specialist simulations, but what benefit does Facebook‘s shitty world have for such things? Is a farmer going to want to try their hand at brain surgery while taking a break from choosing what type of barley to sow?
Surely these are all things that can be done using specialist simulations, but what benefit does Facebook‘s shitty world have for such things? Is a farmer going to want to try their hand at brain surgery while taking a break from choosing what type of barley to sow?
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8ball
AV REFUGEES WELCOME
It makes Elon Musk’s claims about his cars/rockets/whatever look very grounded and cautious.
At this stage there’s really no more to it than a very shonky VR copy of early versions of Second Life, or that PlayStation version they attempted.
newme
Giant in Pastyland now
Yeh same, specific apps for specific purposes but no reason they need to be in a bad version of VR chat, the standalone apps on the quest seem to work fine without being in some other framework.
Only possible thing I could see this metaverse thing being for is some form of corporate event, which has already been attempted and gone horrendously badly. It won't replace video chat in offices, people don't want the cameras on for those anyway. Let alone a thing strapped to their face.
Mines actually fairly comfortable due to a battery balancing it out and extra straps but still gets vaguely annoying after more than a few hours and thats with me choosing to play gunraiders on it. Not have some avatar standing about awkwardly. Or more likely sitting at some fake board table, looking at some awful cartoon renders of co workers.
moochedit
Mr Mooched It
I think simalar claims were made about second life about 15 years ago that never happenned.
pinkmonkey
2.4 hour party person
My brother has one of these headsets and mostly uses it to watch Youtube. I don't want, nor can I afford to buy one. can't imagine it being used in a corporate environment for meetings, in the UK, who is going to sign off all that money for dozens of headsets for workers, then there's maintenance (incl cleaning them). I mean, the FB meta ones are £1.5k, more than what my laptop cost. They will continue to use Zoom and not need to buy more equipment. The only company I know that's using it so far is to view 3D cad work of sneakers so client can approve it, before its sent off. So I think there'll be uses for it, just not for everything and not for every company. As for Meta, nope, it's just another way of bombarding us with adverts.
newme
Giant in Pastyland now
We picked them up before the price increase and thats the quest 2 so it was £300, not insignificant certainly but not £1.5k and it gets me on my feet moving around somewhat which is good for my back. Plus it seems all my problems with every single shooter game since Goldeneye has been the controllers/interface as this works fantastically for me.
I can't imagine it being used for general corporate stuff, just guessing that was what the metaverse thing seems to be aimed at as other then that I have no idea why anyone would use the platform, there is no draw for normal users so I am they must have to be forced to. I'm lucky enough at work currently to have a CAD quality laptop (benefits of being a data analyst in a geoconsultancy area) no one even opens the laptops so even the camera included with it is useless and just about everyone has it shoved under a riser with proper calibrated screens instead since you kind of need those for that kind of work.
Definitely right about the price thing tho, most places I would be surprised they are even getting £400 worth of laptop, they "upgraded" a laptop at a previous job to one that was worse than the 7 year old laptop I was using at home, I had to argue for 4 days at a government role for a new completely standard charger... which IT had in stock but it would have come out of our budget, just the email and dealing with the request cost more than the cost of buying one.
I have seen use cases in AR for renovations work, visual exploration of new builds, upgrade on the virtual flythrough type use and again various visual modelling applications like the sneakers example but not how any of this fits into Meta advertising world. VR chat is an example of what people in general actually want from something like that, it is not somewhere that is going to get any major advertising company signing on, its like twitter after Elon took over and removed stuff, most just ran, much as I did after trying out VR chat for 5 minutes. Twitter much as I don't use or care about it actually had something which people wanted to use and advertisers were happy enough to spend money on it.
Someone paying £400 minimum to go into a sterile corporate sales place and be bombarded with adverts with no content? No chance, no wonder its leaking money like crazy, it has no draw for anyone to use it, I would imagine even if there was some corporate usage, they would still not want to have a bunch of adverts stuck up all over the place in their VR boardroom or whatever. Since no one is using it, who wants to pay to advertise on it? Would have been cheaper and more effective to just add adverts to the shop/landing area/etc rather than trying to make advert world and convince people to come there afterwards.
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