Dulwich Hamlet History Notes

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Marcel Plassard from the web

The Nouvelliste du Morbihan 1938/09/01
Once selected, then, Marcel Plassard was called upon to render great services to his club, which he owes ... (Hennebont, Morbihan, France - 1938)

The Nouvelliste du Morbihan 1938/09/01
...A DEPARTURE - Marcel Plassard , Master Corporal at 137 "RI and back at the Lorient Football Club will leave us .... (Hennebont, Morbihan, France - 1938)

Marcel, Eugène PLASSARD
Number: 902L33 5481FN41
Specialty: Marine Fusilier
Last grade: Second master (after legal duration)
Date of birth: 26th November 1915 - PORT-LOUIS (56)
Death date: February 17, 2002 (87 years) - LORIENT
Service states (6)

Marine Fusilier

Second master (after legal duration)

ARRAS - Embedded

CASERNE BIR-HAKEIM - Embedded

GREENOCK BASE - Embedded
- 1940 -
01/08 /
FRENCH FREE NAVAL FORCES (or) FNFL - Commitment

 

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The first recorded Women's game to be played at Champion Hill, I can find is the 1977 Women's FA Cup final between Southampton and QPR held on 15th May 1977, with over 3,000 in attendance in the old Champion Hill stadium. The game highlights shown before the men's FA Cup final with Bob Wilson as commentator. QPR ran out 1-0 winners.

the next game was the delayed 1994/95 London women's cup final between Arsenal & Millwall Lionesses in August 1995

The next women's game played at Champion Hill was on Sunday 10th September 1995 when Dulwich Hamlet Women's football Club (formally Lambeth WFC founded in 1986 as Patmore Youth Club) ran out against Hackney WFC in the WFA Cup preliminary round (Alsion Murphy star scorer)
Debbie Glanfield, T Balogun, Catherine Dooley, Alison Murphy, Hazel Sarjeant, Martina Killick, Jackie Phillip, Marie Foley, Diann Charles, Dee McLaren, Bebrey Gurten subs Maz Keenan, Chidi Anyiam, Fola Munis

Source: 10th September programme notes

The last recording of the first Dulwich Hamlet women's team I can find is a game against QPR in March 1998

 

[Roger D]

Can't remember the dates but the mid 90's ish saw two womens FA Cup Semi Finals at the Hill. Croydon and Ipswich were two of the four teams involved. Think Croydon may have featured in both matches and that it was probably around the time of the first DHWFC.

 

[Dulwich Mishi]

This has nothing to do with Dulwich Hamlet, and the picture was used to falsely represent how popular the former Kings College sports field was, by an arch opponent of the building of our curent ground.

 

[Son of Roy]

Never mind his book I believe Beasley is more famous for inspiring the Tuscany song?

 

[Pink Panther]

The first recorded Women's game to be played at Champion Hill, I can find is the 1977 Women's FA Cup final between Southampton and QPR held on 15th May 1977, with over 3,000 in attendance in the old Champion Hill stadium. The game highlights shown before the men's FA Cup final with Bob Wilson as commentator. QPR ran out 1-0 winners.

the next game was the delayed 1994/95 London women's cup final between Arsenal & Millwall Lionesses in August 1995

The next women's game played at Champion Hill was on Sunday 10th September 1995 when Dulwich Hamlet Women's football Club (formally Lambeth WFC founded in 1986 as Patmore Youth Club) ran out against Hackney WFC in the WFA Cup preliminary round (Alsion Murphy star scorer)
Debbie Glanfield, T Balogun, Catherine Dooley, Alison Murphy, Hazel Sarjeant, Martina Killick, Jackie Phillip, Marie Foley, Diann Charles, Dee McLaren, Bebrey Gurten subs Maz Keenan, Chidi Anyiam, Fola Munis

Source: 10th September programme notes

The last recording of the first Dulwich Hamlet women's team I can find is a game against QPR in March 1998

The BBC erected a temporary television gantry under the old covered terrace for the 1977 Cup Final and I believe some local chldren were shaking it while chanting "Jimmy Hill is a wanker". Mishi can possibly elaborate upon that!

There were also two FA Cup semi-finals played at Champion Hill during the first three seasons or so after the current ground opened. One of them was Croydon v Millwall. I recall Croydon seemed to have won it by scoring the first goal very late in extra time only for Millwall to equalise straight from the kick-off then win on kicks from the penalty mark.

 

[Son of Roy]

Amongst the junk in my house I found a couple of Pink N Booze periodicals if anyone is interested. They offer a facinating insight into the author circa 2000. Mishi have you got copies?

 

[Dulwich Mishi]

Amongst the junk in my house I found a couple of Pink N Booze periodicals if anyone is interested. They offer a facinating insight into the author circa 2000. Mishi have you got copies?

View attachment 183479

Yes, it wasn't much of a fanzine, just a 'spoiler' from me really...

 

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Sheffield Independent 6th October 1931

 

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It was reported in 1931 that the old ground had a "definite slope"
and it was stated that the new ground was the "finest amateur enclosure in Great Britain"
It was reported that presently Ilford is "probably" the largest in the Country with a 20,000 capacity

 

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Dulwich Hamlet V Casuals
London Charity Cup
Daily Herald Report 23rd October 1919
Attendance 2,000
Edgar Kail

Final London Charity Cup - December 13th 1919 at Champion Hill 2:15 kick off
Dulwich Hamlet V Nunhead

 

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London Charity Cup Final 13 December 1919
Dulwich Hamlet V Nunhead

13th London Charity Cup Final

Saturday 13th December 1919 2:15 KO
Dulwich Hamlet (1) V Nunhead (0)
Davis 80th minute

First time Dulwich Hamlet had won the cup outright (joint winners in 1910 after a drawn replay)

Nunhead's seventh successive London Charity cup final

Dulwich Hamlet appeared in the final 1910-11 (joint winner with Nunhead after a drawn replay 1-1 and 2-2), 1911-12 (losing 2-3 to Nunhead) 1913-14 (losing 0-1 to Nunhead)
13th December 1919

"The largest crowd ever seen on the Dulwich ground"
The Globe - 13th December 1919

London Charity Cup was established in 1886-87 season
The first final was between Swifts and Casuals - Swifts winning 3-0
winners
Swifts (twice)
Old Westministers
Royal Arsenal
Casuals (six)
London Caledonians (four)
Crusaders (twice)
Old Carthusians (twice)
Clapton (four)
Shepherds Bush
Leytonstone
Nunhead (three)

1906 Calidonians and Casuals joint winners (draw)
1910 Dulwich Hamlet and Nunhead joint winners (draw)

1910-11 Dulwich Hamlet 1 Nunhead 1 replay 2-2
1911-12 Dulwich Hamlet 2 Nunhead 3
1913-14 Dulwich Hamlet 0 Nunhead 1
1914-15 Calidonians 1 Nunhead 2
1919-19 Dulwich Hamlet 1 Nunhead 0

source Globe 13 December 1913

 

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Dulwich Hamlet lost the London Charity Cup final of 1946-47
0-3 to Barking at Champion Hill

The match programme reported that Dulwich Hamlet had won the London Charity Cup on six occasions
and jointly three
1910-11 with Nunhead (Dulwich Hamlets first London Charity Cup final)
1923-24 with Clapton
1930-31 with Kingstonians

 

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London Senior Cup established in 1882
Dulwich Hamlet have won five times and been the losing finalists five times

1907/08 LOST 1-0 London Calidonians
1920/21 LOST 4-1 Barking Town
1924/25 WON 2-0 Clapton
1927/28 LOST 2-0 London Calidonians
1938/39 WON 3-0 Erith & Belvedere
1942/43 LOST 5-4 Tooting & Mitcham
1949/50 WON 3-1 Hounslow
1983/84 WON 3-2 Kingstonians
2001/02 LOST 2-1 Croydon
2003/04 WON 2-0 Tooting & Mitcham

Former Walthamstow Avenue hold record for most Cup final wins (eight)

 

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London Senior Cup established in 1882
Dulwich Hamlet have won five times and been the losing finalists five times

1907/08 LOST 1-0 London Calidonians
1920/21 LOST 4-1 Barking Town
1924/25 WON 2-0 Clapton
1927/28 LOST 2-0 London Calidonians
1938/39 WON 3-0 Erith & Belvedere
1942/43 LOST 5-4 Tooting & Mitcham
1949/50 WON 3-1 Hounslow
1983/84 WON 3-2 Kingstonians
2001/02 LOST 2-1 Croydon
2003/04 WON 2-0 Tooting & Mitcham

Former Walthamstow Avenue hold record for most Cup final wins (eight)

In 1984 we beat Kingstonian (no ‘s’ at the end) after a replay. There was also the London Challenge Cup at the turn of this century which, in effect was re-introduced in a new guise & replaces the London Senior Cup for a few years, which became a secondary competition for senior sides for a number of seasons, before it was again put back into mothballs.

 

[Roger D]

I think it was the 2000/2001 final Hamlet lost late on to a penalty given after the most ridiculous dive you'll ever see. To be fair to the Croydon player he openly admitted it was a dive when asked post game and said it was what he was paid to do.

We had laughed when Wayne Kerrins pulled off just as ludicrous a dive over the top of Les Cleevely to win a penalty around that time. Also around then our Reserves were awarded a ludicrous penalty v Corinthian Casuals. Their captain ran over to the referee an urged him to look at us doubling up in laughter on the terracing. He did and confirmed it was a penalty. The keeper then did the old Corinthian thing and stood to one side and didn't even try to save it.

 

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When I came to the old Champion Hill as a lad in the early 1970's, I recall one of the main thoroughfares to the ground ran along side the railway embankment ? was it direct from the railway station - and seem to remember the commissioner patrolling at the entrance to the officials box ?

 

[Dulwich Mishi]

When I came to the old Champion Hill as a lad in the early 1970's, I recall one of the main thoroughfares to the ground ran along side the railway embankment ? was it direct from the railway station - and seem to remember the commissioner patrolling at the entrance to the officials box ?

No, not the railway embankment. A path/ access road ran up from next to the chip shop to the turnstiles & the back of the main stand. It backed onto the back gardens of the houses on the northerly side of St Francis Road.
The main entrance into the ground was the players & officials entrance, below the old upstairs bar, which itself opened in 1964. Until the early eighties it was hard to get into the small downstairs bar, the Hamlet Bar, as this was for players, officials & assorted hangers on. But once invited in you were always guaranteed a late one.

 

[dcdulwich]

When I came to the old Champion Hill as a lad in the early 1970's, I recall one of the main thoroughfares to the ground ran along side the railway embankment ? was it direct from the railway station - and seem to remember the commissioner patrolling at the entrance to the officials box ?

Some of the wall from the old boundary is still in place across from the blue exit gate ‘B’ - the one on the service road down the side of the stadium. You can see markings from where the car park for the old stadium used to be.

 

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This Weds Hussein Hegazi: Dulwich Hamlet’s Egyptian King – free talk, Wed 16th Oct 2019

 

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Rene Kail wife of Edgar Kail

 

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Dulwich Hamlet win 10-0 March 1945 ??
but against whom and take it not a League fame ?

 

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Dulwich Hamlet's Heaviest league defeat: 0–9 vs Walthamstow Avenue, Isthmian League,
29th December 1945

 

[Son of Roy]

A game in which Tommy Jover didn't score! Walthamstow must have had a strong team. In those days there were no substitutes so Dulwich would have finished the game with only 9 players. Glyn Jones was the Sports master and went on to be the headmaster of Parklands secondary school in Sidcup (now Cleve Park school). He retired in 1979 and went back to live in South Wales.

 

[Steve Upsher]

Now that's research pompeydunc ! ;-)

My Dad played for Dulwich in the 1950s after returning from Australia in 1954. It would have been 1954 or 55 or soon after. His name was Derek Upsher and he was a striker. Does anyone have any mentions or pictures of him? He talks fondly of the club and how big they were in those days, with the players being taken to a hotel for post match meal!

 

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Away Margate FA Cup 1974