To be honest, I can't imagine going out to dinner with a friend at thirteen. Sounds good, though. Yes, kids wanting to be driven everywhere would be pretty bad.There's a well-documented habit of families moving out of cities to raise children, but bringing up kids in London has certain advantages. This weekend our 13 year-old had a sleepover with a mate down in Tooting - she got there herself, they went out to dinner themselves locally, then the next day she travelled up to town and joined us (to see the Bodyworlds exhibition) on her own. In the country a child of that age would need to be driven places.