Dismissed for an unsubstantiated rumour

[juice_terry]

I started a new job on Monday.. this morning I was called in to see the director and was informed that my line manager had been told that I had been dismissed from my previous job and as I had failed to disclose this they had no option but to terminate my employment, giving me one weeks notice. The thing is I was not dismissed from my previous job the information was given to them by a third party I'm assuming from somebody who works there and is basically just hearsay. I have spoken to my previous manager and operations manager who have both put it in writing that I was not dismissed let alone for the reasons the alleger has stated .. I've got the union involved now .. I guess I'm just sounding off on here .. surely they can't serve notice on me without investigating the allegation and getting the true facts ... I'm raging and now have to go and break the bad news to my OH.

 

[Pickman's model]

I started a new job on Monday.. this morning I was called in to see the director and was informed that my line manager had been told that I had been dismissed from my previous job and as I had failed to disclose this they had no option but to terminate my employment, giving me one weeks notice. The thing is I was not dismissed from my previous job the information was given to them by a third party I'm assuming from somebody who works there and is basically just hearsay. I have spoken to my previous manager and operations manager who have both put it in writing that I was not dismissed let alone for the reasons the alleger has stated .. I've got the union involved now .. I guess I'm just sounding off on here .. surely they can't serve notice on me without investigating the allegation and getting the true facts ... I'm raging and now have to go and break the bad news to my OH.

talk to a lawyer through the union as soon as possible

 

[juice_terry]

talk to a lawyer through the union as soon as possible

Im going to pal.. they are just sorting out a rep for me now .. I'm going to see if there are grounds for suing for defamation too

 

[Pickman's model]

Im going to pal.. they are just sorting out a rep for me now .. I'm going to see if there are grounds for suing for defamation too

good luck

 

[maomao]

The employer can sack you for any reason they like, you've only been there 3 days. You must have some kind of case against the people who gave them the false information. The only thing you are entitled to from the new employer is a written explanation of why you've been let go which is normally fuck all use but in your case you should definitely ask for this.

 

[juice_terry]

The employer can sack you for any reason they like, you've only been there 3 days. You must have some kind of case against the people who gave them the false information. The only thing you are entitled to from the new employer is a written explanation of why you've been let go which is normally fuck all use but in your case you should definitely ask for this.

I have requested this information including who they got this false information from

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

The employer can sack you for any reason they like, you've only been there 3 days. You must have some kind of case against the people who gave them the false information. The only thing you are entitled to from the new employer is a written explanation of why you've been let go which is normally fuck all use but in your case you should definitely ask for this.

^^^^^


But 100% go for this: I'm going to see if there are grounds for suing for defamation too


Fuckers.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Good luck in getting it sorted out.

I'd hope your former employer would now be investigating this if one of their staff is shit-stirring. Sounds like misconduct to me.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I have requested this information including who they got this false information from

FoI request if necessary.

 

[BigTom]

Sadly I think maomao is right and you'll be on a probation period so they can sack you for whatever reason they want but if you have written letters from your old employer that may be enough to get them to change their mind. If you're not on a probation period this might be different, I doubt they could sack you on a rumour, but you'd have to be there 2 years to be able to sue for unfair dismissal and wrongful dismissal has very limited applications and not sure it would apply here even if you're not in a probation period.
Your union will be able to advise you properly and great to hear you're already in one and talking to them as so often people post like this and they aren't in a union.

 

[Pickman's model]

FoI request if necessary.

subject access request, foi different

 

[BigTom]

FoI request if necessary.

FoI is only for public bodies so if this is a private company doesn't apply.
Data Protection Act you can make a data access request though and they have to give you any info they have attached to your name/ID

 

[Winot]

Defamation won't work unless you can find out who defamed you.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

FoI is only for public bodies so if this is a private company doesn't apply.
Data Protection Act you can make a data access request though and they have to give you any info they have attached to your name/ID

ICO guidance -

Find out how to request your personal information

 

[kabbes]

Defamation won't work unless you can find out who defamed you.

You will also have to show some kind of damages as a result of the defamation.
ETA: obviously, OP can show damages. But my interpretation was that the old employer would look to sue for defamation.

 

[Pickman's model]

subject access request, foi different

ICO guidance -

Find out how to request your personal information

great minds think alike

 

[Pickman's model]

You will also have to show some kind of damages as a result of the defamation.

er losing the job and having potential difficulty with benefits might do for starters

 

[not-bono-ever]

sorry to hear this JT - are your present employers ok to deal with on a F2F basis - have you exhausted all means reasonable discussion with them before escalating ?

 

[juice_terry]

sorry to hear this JT - are your present employers ok to deal with on a F2F basis - have you exhausted all means reasonable discussion with them before escalating ?

It's come as a bolt out of the blue to be honest they have served notice without even investigating which I think is pretty unreasonable in itself

 

[Pickman's model]

It's come as a bolt out of the blue to be honest they have served notice without even investigating which I think is pretty unreasonable in itself

yeh i think that's particularly shit and if they repeat the allegation may (ask a lawyer about this bit) leave themselves open to action for defamation.

 

[danny la rouge]

Sorry to hear this Terry; hope you get it sorted.

 

[bi0boy]

It's come as a bolt out of the blue to be honest they have served notice without even investigating which I think is pretty unreasonable in itself

Try and get them to give a reason in writing, email will do.

 

[juice_terry]

Try and get them to give a reason in writing, email will do.

The reason for terminating my contract is that I failed to disclose that I was dismissed from my previous employer (based entirely on the say so of a person so far unknown to me).. they said they will put it in writing .. I have a letter written today from the operations manager of my previous employer stating that I handed my notice in for my previous job .. worked the notice period and in no way was dismissed for any reason .. should be an open and cut case imo.. I'm seething though that it appears they have not investigated this false claim which could have been simply done by phoning my previous manager and asking them outright .. which they have still failed to do.

 

[weltweit]

Sounds like a pretty shitty situation.

Could there be any other reason the new employer wanted to dismiss you?

 

[planetgeli]

Good luck with this. Sounds fucking out of order.

 

[juice_terry]

Sounds like a pretty shitty situation.

Could there be any other reason the new employer wanted to dismiss you?

No idea I only started Monday all I've done is online training there so far.

 

[wiskey]

Do you want them to rescind the termination of contract? or are you pissed off with them and want out?

 

[weltweit]

No idea I only started Monday all I've done is online training there so far.

Sounds more and more dodgy to me ..

When you told your new director that his allegation was false, did he say anything?

 

[Duncan2]

Is there an appeal against the decision to terminate?With unio rep present you could at least give them an embarrassing half-hour explaining their total failure to act like a reasonable employer?

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Sorry to hear this mate. Sounds well fishy.