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flypanam said:
I think the cops closed the park today.
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It was open when I went through it at about 6... according to the local fb page the drive-in entrances were closed to cars but not pedestrians. It would be difficult to just close it as it doesn't have a secure perimeter. Fireworks night involves a lot of fencing.
 
So what's happening at the Alma? It's open for serving takeaway beers in the daytimes and getting lively, so I hear.
 
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William Morris speaking at the Crooked Billet, Penge.
WM is the seated figure with beard, supposedly.

Im loving the carriage. Seems to be a Clarion Van it is suggested
The Clarion Movement


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I'm hearing that the road closures around CP are unpopular and controversial. Be interested to hear what Urbanites in the area think.
 
Ive found reports about this and see people are worried about a knock on effect to Triangle. My first thought was it was the triangle being closed.
The hills run from Queens Hotel to Auckland Road? I cant see it affecting the triangle that much. Also some of the roads down there already have speed humps and width restrictors. As the last time I was down there I Walked it so dont remember about speed limits, could be 20 by now. If i lived on one of the hills I would hope this made things better...it was ever a rat run down there.
 
hash tag said:
Ive found reports about this and see people are worried about a knock on effect to Triangle. My first thought was it was the triangle being closed.
The hills run from Queens Hotel to Auckland Road? I cant see it affecting the triangle that much. Also some of the roads down there already have speed humps and width restrictors. As the last time I was down there I Walked it so dont remember about speed limits, could be 20 by now. If i lived on one of the hills I would hope this made things better...it was ever a rat run down there.
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It affects the triangle massively. As no one can cut through Auckland Rd or the side roads, they all have to go along the Triangle bit of Church Road. Speed humps and width restricters are irrelevant when a road is blocked off.
 
Maggot said:
I'm hearing that the road closures around CP are unpopular and controversial. Be interested to hear what Urbanites in the area think.
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my mate lives right in the middle of those three road closures - he's really annoyed with it - no matter what direction he wants to go he ends up in a traffic jam in crystal palace as thats the only way out. those road blocks seem completely arbitrary and covid unjustified.
 
Yeah, people are very pissed off. Traffic has been really bad around the triangle last few days. Which I guess is the aim.
 
Puts half an hour onto my journey to and from work each way. I think the residents of fox hill are quite happy with it. The people I really feel for are the bus users, the journey times must be crazy.

Plus on church road the air quality has been shiiter than usual due to the increased traffic.
 
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flypanam said:
Puts half an hour onto my journey to and from work each way. I think the residents of fox hill are quite happy with it. The people I really feel for are the bus users, the journey times must be crazy.

Plus on church road the air quality has been shiiter than usual due to the increased traffic.
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Is it not partly the fact that there's still temp lights by the Alma though, because of the bashed up shop, plus a single lane on Church Rd because of temporary road narrowing?
 
Maggot said:
I'm hearing that the road closures around CP are unpopular and controversial. Be interested to hear what Urbanites in the area think.
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There was a protest on Church road yesterday lunchtime about the road closures. The protest group trumpets itself as non partisan but I can't help noticing that the local tory party has thrown themselves into the campaign with gusto. The group do have a point that there does seem to have been some corruption on the part of the labour in that the road closures seem to be in areas where labour councilors reside.

To be honest initially the closures annoyed me but I see their working on old candle shop so there is hope that the scaffolding will come down sooner rather than later which will ease the congestion on the triangle.
 
flypanam said:
There was a protest on Church road yesterday lunchtime about the road closures. The protest group trumpets itself as non partisan but I can't help noticing that the local tory party has thrown themselves into the campaign with gusto. The group do have a point that there does seem to have been some corruption on the part of the labour in that the road closures seem to be in areas where labour councilors reside.
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Interesting, same allegations being thrown around in Lewisham. Quite possibly the same all over!

The Triangle has always been a bit of a nightmare, and I can imagine it being doubly so ATM.
 
flypanam said:
There was a protest on Church road yesterday lunchtime about the road closures. The protest group trumpets itself as non partisan but I can't help noticing that the local tory party has thrown themselves into the campaign with gusto. The group do have a point that there does seem to have been some corruption on the part of the labour in that the road closures seem to be in areas where labour councilors reside.

To be honest initially the closures annoyed me but I see their working on old candle shop so there is hope that the scaffolding will come down sooner rather than later which will ease the congestion on the triangle.
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Apparently the scaffolding on Church Rd has come down.

I don't know the details, but I heard it was closures in Croydon Borough affecting streets in Bromley.
 
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