ska invita
back on the other side
theyre good arent they! deserve their own thread
four or five of them in london...
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four or five of them in london...
ska invita
back on the other side
no, but the two veggie dishes are great
TEP noodles = tomato and pepper noodles with bits of egg in - absolutely delicious
and i think the other is mixed veg noodles, also good
as far as i understand this is north chinese food, so unusually noodles are made of wheat and hand made so come out uneven
When we go we order one TEP and one other noodles and share, just to max out on the flavours, but it gets a bit messy!
*was feeling sleepless and now hungry to boot!
buscador
culturally dominant
Don't know if they deserve their own thread, but it is a fantastic shop. It's like a spacious Nour, but with added Turkish delight and red pepper paste. Also near the Old Dispensary, for those of us who have to use public transport and need a refreshment break while shopping.theyre good arent they! deserve their own thread
ETA I know I've said this all before, but it's worth a detour. And the staff are lovely. And no crappy scab tills either.
Ms T
Honey-coloured ramparts
Also has a butcher's counter and an entire baklava section! And a car park.
little_legs
Поехали!
Is this also in Camberwell?
Ms T
Honey-coloured ramparts
Brixton.
little_legs
Поехали!
Thanks, Ms T. It's on my 'to check it out when in Brixton' list now.
Dulwich Raider
Member
Hi,
I wrote a 'Best of Camberwell' article for Deserter:
http://deserter.co.uk/2015/01/camberwell-beauty/
Be interested in feedback on the places I mention - and, of course, on the places I don't.
TDR
I wrote a 'Best of Camberwell' article for Deserter:
http://deserter.co.uk/2015/01/camberwell-beauty/
Be interested in feedback on the places I mention - and, of course, on the places I don't.
TDR
George & Bill
semiotically superfluous
You're an ill-informed snob who is also not very good at writing, I'm afraid.
George & Bill
semiotically superfluous
Well, The Hermit's has been opening late since the Tiger was nary a glint in a nascent pubco's eye.
But it's the dismissive and simplistic suggestion that Brixton and Peckham have been so improved by gentrification, and the subsequent focus on the elements of Camberwell that might be leading it towards similar 'improvement', that are my main source of annoyance. I would normally find it mean to point out that the author doesn't write very well, but given the above, I decided to indulge my uncharitable streak.
George & Bill
semiotically superfluous
I mean, just hear the amusement dripping off a phrase like 'Cool Cats’ Cafe offers the unlikely experience of live music and table service on Southampton Way.' Urgh.
It's also worth pointing out that s/he has effectively described 'a tour of Camberwell, minus the non-white people'.
It's also worth pointing out that s/he has effectively described 'a tour of Camberwell, minus the non-white people'.
Maggot
The Cake of Liberty
It is quite an unlikely experience tbf.
George & Bill
semiotically superfluous
I did not question its veracity. The comment just sounded like so many I've heard at, for example, the Bussey Building from people who've traipsed over from better-healed districts: 'ya, god, this such an unexpected place to find something like this, yaaah.'
mango5
Endeavour era
I heartily agree with slowjoe. 
It reads as if all the press releases for trendy start up cafés of recent years were rolled into one. I would be surprised if the writer spent much time in Camberwell.
No café bay, no sea bass, no Turkish Food Centre to name just a few glaring omissions. Maloko's true charm totally overlooked. Cruson taken at face value (the food is in a truly awful state). I could go on.
It reads as if all the press releases for trendy start up cafés of recent years were rolled into one. I would be surprised if the writer spent much time in Camberwell.
No café bay, no sea bass, no Turkish Food Centre to name just a few glaring omissions. Maloko's true charm totally overlooked. Cruson taken at face value (the food is in a truly awful state). I could go on.
Get Involved
Well-Known Member
I enjoyed the article. Then again I also like 'trendy start up cafes' so I'm probably an ill-informed snob too.
Dulwich Raider, next time you write an article like this, remember to include everything that mango5 likes, and nothing that they don't (you included the wrong bike shop FFS).
Dulwich Raider, next time you write an article like this, remember to include everything that mango5 likes, and nothing that they don't (you included the wrong bike shop FFS).
George & Bill
semiotically superfluous
I like interesting new cafes, but I don't like people who blindly gravitate towards them like intellectually-challenged moths. I think anyone who is presuming to inform others about an area should aim to provide a slightly deeper insight.
Oh, and if someone has made a criticism, and stated the basis of that criticism, you do know that's not the same as simply complaining about someone else having a different opinion, right?
George & Bill
semiotically superfluous
It's OK, I'd be tired of life as well if I was you.
George & Bill
semiotically superfluous
I remember drinking Murphey's at the old Corrib Bar on Camberwell Road. I seem to think it was a bit sweeter than Guinness, but since it was 30p cheaper (£1.70 a pint versus £2), it's usually where I went in search of stout. But Strongbow and Toby bitter were also £1.70, so there was choice at that end of the market.
I also remember once going into the pub across the road, and attempting to have a game of pool. After committing our moneys to the table, we realised there were no cues - and the ones provided upon our request turned out to have no tips. We registered our dissatisfaction to the woman who had provided them to us (the landlady, as it emerged), but she did not seem to find our complaint a reasonable one. Around the moment that this transpired, a man, the landlord, appeared at the bar beside her. 'These people are being aggressive to me!', she complained, seemingly in the hope he'd boot us out. 'You're aggressive to me every morning as soon as you wake up!', was his only response.
The Corrib bar is now a church, and the other pub over the road, whose name I forget, is a mosque. I don't begrudge either conversion - I suspect both now cater to larger constituencies than they did in their previous guises, for better or worse. But in my life, as a drinker and an atheist, the environment has been left somewhat the poorer.
I also remember once going into the pub across the road, and attempting to have a game of pool. After committing our moneys to the table, we realised there were no cues - and the ones provided upon our request turned out to have no tips. We registered our dissatisfaction to the woman who had provided them to us (the landlady, as it emerged), but she did not seem to find our complaint a reasonable one. Around the moment that this transpired, a man, the landlord, appeared at the bar beside her. 'These people are being aggressive to me!', she complained, seemingly in the hope he'd boot us out. 'You're aggressive to me every morning as soon as you wake up!', was his only response.
The Corrib bar is now a church, and the other pub over the road, whose name I forget, is a mosque. I don't begrudge either conversion - I suspect both now cater to larger constituencies than they did in their previous guises, for better or worse. But in my life, as a drinker and an atheist, the environment has been left somewhat the poorer.
mango5
Endeavour era
I didn't enjoy it as a selection "best of Camberwell". Especially with an intro essentially saying it's a bit shit. I gave feedback on places included and not included as requested.
I did not say anything about the wrong bike shop ffs, although recommending a bike shop as "best" on the basis of beer and pizza is strange (the article says "I have no idea what the bikes are like"). Not sure what you are offering in this conversation. Here are some more suggestions and feedback.
- The crypt of St Giles is worth a mention regular jazz and live music.
- The leisure centre should definitely appear on a 'best of Camberwell' list, though I personally prefer Peckham.
- There was no mention of the various Art gallery spaces and shops - GX, Cowling & Wilcox, House, upstairs at The Bear as well as Camberwell Space.
- It was nice to see Ortus in there, deffo a hidden gem.
- There are many other nice green spaces in Camberwell, Brunswick Park and Myatts Fields probably being the nicest and I would put them on a list of 'best' though I personally tend to use Lucas Gardens and St Giles Churchyard more. Also worth a mention are the World Gardens on Chumleigh Street in Burgess Park.
mango5
Endeavour era
The Hill Bakery is moving from New Cross/Nunhead to Grove Lane soon (just up from the former Johansson's). Probably won't compete with Sophocles on price but will surely raise the bar for decent bread. I hope some of the local eateries which use fancy breads - like Angels & Gypsies, Daily Goods and Pigeon Hole - support them by using them as suppliers.
Dulwich Raider
Member
Thanks all.
I don't subscribe to the view that Brixton and Peckham have been wholly improved by gentrification. That's one of the reasons I like Camberwell, because it doesn't yet feel like it's dominated by hipster incomers and cocktail bars. It's still a good mix of people.
I like St Giles crypt, too, but haven't been for ages so didn't feel qualified to pass judgement, but yes, should have given it a nod, in retrospect. Likewise, Sophocles.
I liked the bike shop because it had beer.
"slowjoe: Well-Known Member" - Yeah, I can imagine, you grumpy bugger. And so chatty, too. Do you want to write for us? - email hello@deserter.co.uk
TDR
I don't subscribe to the view that Brixton and Peckham have been wholly improved by gentrification. That's one of the reasons I like Camberwell, because it doesn't yet feel like it's dominated by hipster incomers and cocktail bars. It's still a good mix of people.
I like St Giles crypt, too, but haven't been for ages so didn't feel qualified to pass judgement, but yes, should have given it a nod, in retrospect. Likewise, Sophocles.
I liked the bike shop because it had beer.
"slowjoe: Well-Known Member" - Yeah, I can imagine, you grumpy bugger. And so chatty, too. Do you want to write for us? - email hello@deserter.co.uk
TDR
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Anyone been to the Flying Dutchman? It's an S&M pub, judging by the stuff they've got in there!
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
World Unknown do their parties there now. It has a throne!
buscador
culturally dominant
I suppose most of what was Gay Camberwell has moved up to Vauxhall these days. There used to be loads of quite dull pubs in the area that tried being gay pubs for a while, especially after the Father Redcap closed.
The Flying Dutchman was a proper community pub in its previous incarnation. All the old boys and girls would dress up for Saturday night karaoke, some even remembering to put their teeth in, and we'd be bought drinks all night (because we were guests and not locals) and roll out of there at five in the morning.
The nearest equivalent to the Dutchman of old would probably be the British Queen.
mango5
Endeavour era
Gay Camberwell had film nights upstairs at the Castle and cabaret/DJ nights at The Sun (wotever had a residency before they moved to RVT) and a quiz at the Cambria and all sorts of other meetups. I think there's still a book group going but not sure if its the same people. The website has gone a bit bland 'best of Camberwell' rather similar to a recent submission to this very thread.
eta, oh and on The Flying Dutchman... on my! No wonder it rarely features in local nitespot roundups
eta, oh and on The Flying Dutchman... on my! No wonder it rarely features in local nitespot roundups
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