Camberwell news and chitter-chatter

[mango5]

The Oberon, (Silver Buckle as was), will reopen in the New Year as a proper old fashioned pub.
We will offer a good range of real ales along with the usual lagers, some interesting wines and some great, well priced home made food.

A proper pub with decent beer, decent food and decent people but above all a pub

There are a few decent Ale/food pubs in Camberwell, sounds like the Oberon is going for the obvious. A small pub/venue with music or bands would be really good. (Sadly I don't think the Marlborough worked out). If the Joiner's Arms have made anything of their back room refurb I haven't noticed. There was a comedy club that started in there but stopped, and the Saturday cabaret/variety at the Sun and Doves faded away too.

 

[se5]

The renovations at the Silver Buckle currently have revealed lovely green tiling and the original name of the pub in the tiles - the tiger. In a way it would be a shame not to take advantage of the existing sinage that still seems to be in good condition

 

[se5]

There are a few decent Ale/food pubs in Camberwell, sounds like the Oberon is going for the obvious. A small pub/venue with music or bands would be really good. (Sadly I don't think the Marlborough worked out). If the Joiner's Arms have made anything of their back room refurb I haven't noticed. There was a comedy club that started in there but stopped, and the Saturday cabaret/variety at the Sun and Doves faded away too.

Sadly that seems to be the way of Camberwell pubs. There does seem to be events on at the Castle and Funky Munky along these lines and I think it does tend to take off more in the summer.

 

[George & Bill]

There are a few decent Ale/food pubs in Camberwell, sounds like the Oberon is going for the obvious. A small pub/venue with music or bands would be really good. (Sadly I don't think the Marlborough worked out). If the Joiner's Arms have made anything of their back room refurb I haven't noticed. There was a comedy club that started in there but stopped, and the Saturday cabaret/variety at the Sun and Doves faded away too.

According to sources the plug was pulled on the Marlborough by the pubco in question (Enterprise Inns), who decided to sell the unlisted building to be demolished to make way for a residential development. Obviously this may have been influence by the doubtful viability of the pub, which always seemed to suffer either from cash-flow problems or just poor management (they often had large swathes of their drink range off, including on one occasion all their draught beer).

 

[hipipol]

Ref the co that have bought the Buckle - the Dogstar is the odd one out of thei pubs, expect the East Dulwich Tavern - it won local of the year in 08 - God knows why - in some london wide pub survey.

It'll be well run, not so cheap but may face probs concidering the old following from the Buckle will be the first thru the newly refurbed doors!!!

Should be a laff

 

[Stoat Boy]

It'll be well run, not so cheap but may face probs concidering the old following from the Buckle will be the first thru the newly refurbed doors!!!

Should be a laff

I used to know a bloke who ran a pub management company. He told me there were two ways of breaking the link between trouble makers and a pub.

One was to close the pub for 6 months. In that time the old regulars would find somewhere else and get comfortable there and would rarely come back.

The second was to fly a team of brothers in from Ireland who had a reputation as fierce bare knuckle boxers. Let them run the place for a couple of weeks and order soon got restored.

In this day and age I guess its the first option that is the only viable one (I was told of this method at the tail end of the 80's and it relied on the Police being quite happy for Pub landlords to manage most of their own affairs) but the only other alternative would be for a Wetherspoons to open in Camberwell.

 

[se5]

In this day and age I guess its the first option that is the only viable one (I was told of this method at the tail end of the 80's and it relied on the Police being quite happy for Pub landlords to manage most of their own affairs) but the only other alternative would be for a Wetherspoons to open in Camberwell.

I guess there is some logic in the first method you mentioned. We of course already have a Wetherspoons in Camberwell - the Fox on Hill near to King's College Hospital and what a fine Wethers it is too!

I would have thought that the Buckle's clientele have gone to the Old Dispensary or the Joiners Arms if they were local to that bit of town. Anyway I bet if they are tempted back to relive old glories they will walk into the new pub and see the price list and surroundings and promptly walk out again!

 

[Stoat Boy]

I guess there is some logic in the first method you mentioned. We of course already have a Wetherspoons in Camberwell - the Fox on Hill near to King's College Hospital and what a fine Wethers it is too!

Doh !

Of course.

What makes me chuckle though is the Silver Buckle was a mere apprentice to the real hell hole of Camberwell that was the Antheum (I think thats how it was spelt) on Camberwell New Road next to the bus garage.

That was beyond being 'rough' and really took you into a whole strange world. Only ever ventured in once despite working almost opposite it for two years and the place just gave off such a sinister aura that even now I have to repress a little shudder every time I drive past it (its a block buster video place or something now).

 

[se5]

Another fire in Camberwell

The new block of flats being built on Camberwell Station Road has gone up in flames: looks like it was quite dramatic and people in Station Road and surrounding streets had to be evacuated from their homes

Its a shame because it will mean months (maybe years) of more disruption on Station Road. Its hard not to suspect its foul play given that it was a very cold snowy night...

BBC report http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8443147.stm
More than 150 people were moved from their homes when fire tore through a construction site in south London.

About 75 firefighters tackled the blaze which began at 0228 GMT in Camberwell Station Road, Southwark, south London.

The fire, which gutted the five-storey building, was brought under control within four hours.

A London Fire Brigade spokesman said: "Fire crews worked hard to contain the fire, preventing it from spreading to any neighbouring buildings." He said that fire crews were likely to remain on the site for some time.

Fire investigators are trying to identify the cause.

 

[se5]

More on the fire in the Brixton section http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=313312

 

[Maggot]

Its hard not to suspect its foul play given that it was a very cold snowy night...

Why does a cold night mean foul play is more likely?

I would have thought on a cold night there are more heaters going which could have caused it.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

OMG - I had forgotten about Dicky Dirts - my dad used to take us there - for shirts of course.... Blimey MASSIVE blast from the past...

I mentioned them waaaaaaaaaaaaay back in 2007

27-07-2007, 10:15
Minnie_the_Minx

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I don't know what Dickies are.

I remember Dicky Dirts though

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[se5]

Why does a cold night mean foul play is more likely?

I would have thought on a cold night there are more heaters going which could have caused it.

My logic was that at 2am on a cold, bleak, snowy building site open to the elements and separated from surrounding inhabited buildings by several metres there wouldnt be many sources of heat or flames to start the fire.

 

[mango5]

Hey se5, did you post that link elsewhere and lure Mark Dodds over here from the Camberwellonline blog?

 

[se5]

Hey se5, did you post that link elsewhere and lure Mark Dodds over here from the Camberwellonline blog?

Its a fair cop you've got me banged to rights! Yes I do read and sometimes post on the site - http://www.camberwellonline.co.uk/

Returning to earlier speculation on here about causes of the fire its interesting that the Camberwell Station Road site was owned by the same construction company as the Peckham fire site - http://www.building.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=3155748&origin=bldgbreakingnewsletter

 

[mango5]

If anyone is after any picture frames there's a skip full of them outside the GX Gallery on Daneville Road where the buses loop round towards Coldharbour Lane.

 

[Onket]

I expect they're quite wet by now! Good spot though.

 

[fogbat]

Buggrit - could have done with some picture frames

 

[Maggot]

They might still be there.

 

[Onket]

Yes, but sodden.

 

[fogbat]

Might take a look on the way home, on the offchance there are some non-sodden ones.

 

[Biddlybee]

If the wood's treated that they might be ok.

 

[Onket]

There might be some non-sodden ones underneath the sodden ones.

 

[fogbat]

If I do bother to go (unlikely), I will be sure to report back.

 

[mango5]

A couple of snaps of the tiled front of the Silver Buckle/Tiger. It's a shame they aren't using the old name.

 

[fogbat]

Blimey, they're totally gutting it.

 

[IMR]

The tiles look nice, will they be kept?

 

[HateCamberwell]

All this fuss about Camberwell. Try growing up in this cess pit. Took a date to Angels & Gypsies cool place. Shame we had to go back on the street and face the brutality of the locals. Jeez.

 

[Maggot]

All this fuss about Camberwell. Try growing up in this cess pit. Took a date to Angels & Gypsies cool place. Shame we had to go back on the street and face the brutality of the locals. Jeez.

Have you thought about moving?

 

[Onket]

Angels & Gypsies cool place.

Tell me more. You recommend it? Prices?