keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
That's for a fibre leased line. Very different to FTTP.
BT Digital Voice change-over
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Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
that doesn't sound like fibre. when i went on to fibre internet, an engineer had to come round and do something, and think i ended up with box on the wall with two sockets, one for phone, one for interwebs
What type of primary socket have I got? | BT Help
Help with finding out what kind of BT primary socket you have in your home.
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
Ignore what I said about G.Fast, there is a stop-sell on those for now.
It will be full fibre. An Openreach engineer will come and install a new cable and a box like I posted above. BT will send you the router before the install date.
I highly recommend you use Zen instead of BT though.
moochedit
Mr Mooched It
Yeah i suspected the home setup might be a bit different.
keybored
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And a bit cheaper
FTTPs are generally around £50-£80 install, often free install on a 12 month contract. £30-£60 pcm depending on provider and speed
Leased lines from a few hundred to tens of thousands just for the install. Possibly free install on a 3 year term. £300-£600 a month.
kalmatthew
Lurker Extrodinaire
Unless they are offering continued maintance of that backup, I'd fuck it off and get something like this if you just plug the phone base station and the router/phone adaptor you should get plenty of time (assuming the new router has a normal phone socket/POTS socket on the back.Puddy_Tat the order gave the option of a battery backup (which sounds like it's fibre to the property) but they only do it with a digital phone included at £85
WouldBe
Dislicksick
It's currently fibre to the cabinet and crappy copper wires from there.that doesn't sound like fibre. when i went on to fibre internet, an engineer had to come round and do something, and think i ended up with box on the wall with two sockets, one for phone, one for interwebs
What type of primary socket have I got? | BT Help
Help with finding out what kind of BT primary socket you have in your home.www.bt.com
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Can only get full fibre round here through BT or virgin.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
I hope it has as I've asked to use my existing phone.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
phone socket on the back of a BT router has been standard for a while.
the one i have (and the one mum-tat has) - says it's a BT smart hub 2 - came with a sticker over the socket. as and when you go on to digital voice, you just peel the sticker off and plug the phone in.
thus-ish (this one is mum-tat's) -
assuming you have a phone that fits a standard BT socket, it should work. my landline handset was fairly cheap and basic before the change-over and works ok. i believe some cordless ones don't like it, though
keybored
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Have you tried putting your postcode here Connect With Full Fibre | Zen InternetCan only get full fibre round here through BT or virgin.
BT use Openreach infrastructure so if BT are able to offer it, so are many other providers.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
That's slightly more expensive than with BT.
Stupid thing is I'm currently with Utility Warehouse but they only offer fibre broadband and disconnect your landline so no wired phone yet their service is provided through open reach.
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
That's slightly more expensive than with BT.
Stupid thing is I'm currently with Utility Warehouse but they only offer fibre broadband and disconnect your landline so no wired phone yet their service is provided through open reach.
"You get what you pay for"
In this case you get an ISP who are consistently voted "Best ISP" in various polls, who give you a static IPV4 address as standard for free, don't give a shit about filters (piratebay.com? go ahead lol, we don't care), have UK call centres and support staff who actually know what they're talking about. Plus they'll gently let you know when you're coming out of contract and offer you a deal instead of just putting your monthlies up exponentially ala British "fucking" Telecom.
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
Stupid thing is I'm currently with Utility Warehouse but they only offer fibre broadband and disconnect your landline so no wired phone yet their service is provided through open reach.
Sorry... any provider will be "disconnecting" your landline and it's going to be disconnected by the end of next year anyway in most cases. Your landline will be moved over to VoIP ("digital") if you need the landline.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Utility warehouse don't do voice over internet so if you change to their full fibre service you only get broadband and no voice service.
keybored
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Ah, I see.Utility warehouse don't do voice over internet so if you change to their full fibre service you only get broadband and no voice service.
It doesn't make much odds if they're providing the service via Openreach as OR just rent the fiber infrastructure to the service providers. If the service provider doesn't offer VoIP and you need the landline, use another SP. Or use a third-party VoIP service.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
That's why I was looking at changing. Just seems daft that if open reach can provide VoIP then why can't utility warehouse.
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
Openreach don't provide VoIP or Internet any other service. Simply put, they just own, provide and maintain the wires that go to your home/business. They rent that infrastructure to service providers (BT, Zen, Vodafone, TalkTalk, Sky, Utilities Warehouse, AAISP & etc.)That's why I was looking at changing. Just seems daft that if open reach can provide VoIP then why can't utility warehouse.
It's almost always cheaper to get the Internet without a voice service and maybe Utility Warehouse have decided that's where they want to be in the market.
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keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
Might be worth double-checking with them...Utility warehouse don't do voice over internet so if you change to their full fibre service you only get broadband and no voice service.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Where did you find that?
I've just looked and it says no landline so you'll need a mobile to make phone calls.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
They do but if you want landline as well it says you have to take one of the slower packages which will be fibre to the cabinet.
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
Where did you find that?
I've just looked and it says no landline so you'll need a mobile to make phone calls.
Used a former address as I can't yet get FTTP where I now live.
Unticked Energy, Mobile and Insurance on the next page.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Just tried that with a neighbours address and it doesn't even offer full fibre even though we share a telephone post and the same cabinet just up the road.
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
Might* be better to call them as it seems like their online portal is a bit rubbish.Just tried that with a neighbours address and it doesn't even offer full fibre even though we share a telephone post and the same cabinet just up the road.
*I have no idea what their customer service is like.
kalmatthew
Lurker Extrodinaire
My Grandmother used to use them and they would happily painfully talk her through configuring her mailboxes so pretty good I'd say!
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
Yeah, I'd expect it would be! Would love to see the average homeowner's reaction to finding a place to stuff that thing.
Our CF fibre->copper box isn't bigger than a gamepad.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
I had a long phone call with someone at BT this afternoon. They were very helpful but said they weren't a technical person, and no there wasn't a technical person I could talk to, the engineer would sort it out when they come round.
They also said that going on to digital voice would just mean changing so that the phone plugs in to the home hub (modem) and sockets would only need changing to go on to full fibre.
But the initial letter said the house would be upgraded to full fibre prior to changing to digital voice so that doesn't make sense.
I am really pissed off with this, but changing providers is probably going to be even more hassle and generate even more panic.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh.
They also said that going on to digital voice would just mean changing so that the phone plugs in to the home hub (modem) and sockets would only need changing to go on to full fibre.
But the initial letter said the house would be upgraded to full fibre prior to changing to digital voice so that doesn't make sense.
I am really pissed off with this, but changing providers is probably going to be even more hassle and generate even more panic.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh.
Throbbing Angel
uncivilly servile
update - deferred until 2027
BT scraps digital landline switch deadline
BT has ditched its timetable to move landline customers from copper wire to digital.
www.bbc.com
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