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I don't think we do - every development is worse than its predecessor. Look at that vile monstrosity on the corner of Lilford Road. Pure concrete city. And it is supposed to be shared ownership. Aldous Huxley would call it slavery. You'd need to be stoned on soma gas to live in a place like that!
What would go in these new shops, considering the fact that half of the ones opposite the Barrier Block have been empty for years and not one of the new shop units in the adjacent development has been troubled by a tenant since the building was finished?
 
more schools? you'll be wanting the moon on a stick next!

Lambeth have asked its residents to lobby the government about this as there is a shortage - on its way to becoming a critical shortage of primary school places. Plenty of anger about this to be seen on urban. Effra primary another one sold and turned into "luxury" flats.
 
What would go in these new shops, considering the fact that half of the ones opposite the Barrier Block have been empty for years and not one of the new shop units in the adjacent development has been troubled by a tenant since the building was finished?

Have they totally overpriced the units like they did in the old pubs in LJ. They have been empty for years. One has to wonder if the owners are overpricing them to the hold out for a change of use to residential :)
 
What would go in these new shops, considering the fact that half of the ones opposite the Barrier Block have been empty for years and not one of the new shop units in the adjacent development has been troubled by a tenant since the building was finished?
As I said before an Aldi supermarket. Supermarkets demand car parking - and the empty site next to "The Viaduct" could accommodate that.
You are right about the shop/office units it the Viaduct. They are there to meet the planning department policies - the site was originally a garage, derelict for years then a 2nd hand car tyre place. "Employment generating" according to the council. I remember some geezer from Tooting trying to get approval for a mixed development on that site around 1983 and planning would not play ball. Preferred it derelict. I cannot offer a solution to these shops one - ask planning!
As for the current empty site - this was owned by the proprietor of "The Voice" who secured planning permission for a 2 star hotel on the site in 1997 or so (I could dig out a press cutting on this). So far no hotel and no housing. Give us an Aldi (or a Netto) PLEASE (we already have a Lidl in Acre Lane)
 
As I said before an Aldi supermarket. Supermarkets demand car parking - and the empty site next to "The Viaduct" could accommodate that.
You are right about the shop/office units it the Viaduct. They are there to meet the planning department policies - the site was originally a garage, derelict for years then a 2nd hand car tyre place. "Employment generating" according to the council. I remember some geezer from Tooting trying to get approval for a mixed development on that site around 1983 and planning would not play ball. Preferred it derelict. I cannot offer a solution to these shops one - ask planning!
As for the current empty site - this was owned by the proprietor of "The Voice" who secured planning permission for a 2 star hotel on the site in 1997 or so (I could dig out a press cutting on this). So far no hotel and no housing. Give us an Aldi (or a Netto) PLEASE (we already have a Lidl in Acre Lane)

Brixton could really do with a decent hotel or hostel.
 
As I said before an Aldi supermarket.
Well that's clearly what you want but I'm finding it hard to get excited about another multinational supermarket moving in, driving yet more traffic thundering down Coldharbour Lane. Do we really need another supermarket in Brixton?

Aldi's reputation isn't exactly stellar either:

In April 2000, Aldi UK paid damages to a shop manager they had fired for being HIV-positive. Aldi reached an out-of-court settlement with Mark Hedley, former manager of the Aldi supermarket in Seaham, County Durham, shortly before an employment tribunal hearing. Mr Hedley complained of discrimination after he was asked to leave because bosses said other staff felt uncomfortable around him. It is thought the damages paid to Mr Hedley ran to six figures.

Over 200 store managers in the United States are filing charges against unfair labour practices. They are claiming they were illegally classified as exempt from overtime pay, receiving a fixed salary regardless of the actual number of hours worked. The plaintiffs claim they did not spend most of their time managing, rather their time was spent stocking shelves, cleaning spills and serving customers. Store managers do not have management responsibility such as hiring, firing, nor promoting employees

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldi
 
Regarding the shops in what was "Angell Terrace" - i.e. the Angel Pub down to the nail bar, the Angel pub was sold for £505,000 a couple of years ago. How any trading activity there can justify that price I cannot say. George the hairdresser has a fixed price lease, so even though he lives in north London it is worth his while to stay put. Everything else is pretty much fucked up, as you say - although I think the Gresham Cafe may be freehold so they are probably not under pressure.
 
OK. I wouldn't know apart from what people post on here as I don't drive.

Most of the time I get my main shopping on a Tesco home delivery but on the times I do get stuff from central Brixton it's either a real pain in the arse lugging it on the bus to get home - or I end up making several journeys.
 
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Most of the time I get my main shopping on a Tesco home delivery but on the times I do get stuff from central Brixton it's either a real pain in the arse lugging it on the bus to get home - or I end up making several journeys.

I've seen other people complaining about parking, but it's not like I bother to notice when I don't drive myself and live 5 mins from Tescos, 2 from Lidl.
 
Well that's clearly what you want but I'm finding it hard to get excited about another multinational supermarket moving in, driving yet more traffic thundering down Coldharbour Lane. Do we really need another supermarket in Brixton?

Aldi's reputation isn't exactly stellar either:
Hadn't come across that one. I just prefer small discounter style supermarkets. And yes I think since the KwikSave in Brixton market closed down shopping is not very convenient in east Brixton, especially as a pedestrian.
 
Hadn't come across that one. I just prefer small discounter style supermarkets. And yes I think since the KwikSave in Brixton market closed down shopping is not very convenient in east Brixton, especially as a pedestrian.
The street market is minutes away and there's several small stores along Coldharbour Lane. An Aldi nearby would probably put them out of business.
 
What is that place down by the police unit on CHL that has a sign saying "London Hotel"?
It's a hostel. Takes vulnerable people prior to them being allocated flats on the Morlands etc. Don't know who owns it - but it is essentially a B & B used by the council for people who are homeless.
 
It's a hostel. Takes vulnerable people prior to them being allocated flats on the Morlands etc. Don't know who owns it - but it is essentially a B & B used by the council for people who are homeless.

Hah, I was right then - was chatting with SO about this last time we passed it.
 
Pity that it's gradually losing it's stained glass windows. It was originally a Temperance Billiard Hall - designed to keep people like you out of the Albert.
 
Nice theory until you get a couple of pushchairs on the bus, which isn't uncommon.

Come off it, if you shop in Tescos with that you can easily walk to the Rush Common stop where about a gazillion buses go by, every single one of them going up the Hill.
 
Nice theory until you get a couple of pushchairs on the bus, which isn't uncommon.

I sometimes do some shopping in central Brixton with a pushchair (less and less to be honest as I tend to do it on a bicycle) - put it all under the chair in the basket or hanging off the back. I very often come across people with those shopping trolleys, sometimes more than one - they just move to one side. Those trolleys will fit in the aisle and allow passengers to move around them, whereas a pushchair will take up the whole aisle, so needs to be in the designated section. Never had any problem with it and find it infinitely preferable to the unnecessary hassle of owning, driving, maintaining, insuring and parking a car in London. I would also choose to do that during a less busy time of day. If a bus is too crowded, I start pushing and maybe wait for a less crowded one - or more likely, walk home.
 
The street market is minutes away and there's several small stores along Coldharbour Lane. An Aldi nearby would probably put them out of business.
Well speaking from past experience - the market traders were outraged when Tescos moved from Popes Road to Acre Lane. Similarly the closure of KwikSave reduced business in the market. I disagree that a low cost supermarket next to the market should be damaging. Previous experience shows there is synergy in shopping. More in facilities in one area the better. Out of town location (as Tescos in Acre Lane was in 1985) damage town centres. People would park in the supermarket car park whilst shopping also in the market -and small specialist stores.
 
Come off it, if you shop in Tescos with that you can easily walk to the Rush Common stop where about a gazillion buses go by, every single one of them going up the Hill.

If it's a major shop, then I'd just go to Tesco anyway and use the car, hence no problem - it's when I need to go to the market area, whether it's some bits in Iceland (assuming I don't need a load, which I'll then go to the one in Camberwell), odds and ends from the market, cupcakes, the pound shops, or even the farmers market, I have to limit myself to only buying what I can carry.

Also, "walking home" is not an option as I'm off New Park Road. It's too far for me (and no, this is not open to discussion).
 
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