Breaking Bad (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[Jon-of-arc]

I really liked the newsroom stuff, certainly it was far far better done that in The Newsroom. The basics were all down right, from the boringness of most of a days (honest) work, to how they'll cover for crap and make stuff up for good copy. Twas great, gave it a real, y'know Dickensian aspect.

And there ishnt really any BB 'hate' - just a couple of people who (wrongly) say this series isn't as good as other ones.

Aye, I've read somewhere that journos describe it as the most realistic depiction of a newsroom ever. So I guessi don't know what I'm talking about. Still didn't like it though.

 

[belboid]

horses for courses, innit? I know a good few people who hate season 2! The fules

 

[xslavearcx]

season 2 was my fav one...

 

[frogwoman]

yeah, i don't like all the bb hate either. i think this season has been all right.

 

[D'wards]

I think this series has been great. Pushing the story forward nicely. A great ending is a very hard thing to pull off, and I hope they manage it.

 

[J Ed]

I've not watched The Wire, but if it's as good as BB (or better) then something tells me I may be sorted as the nights draw in.

The person who did the casting for BB must be chuffed - can't think of a bad choice.

The Wire is a lot better, belboid's suggestion of Deadwood is another series that is better than BB.

 

[DexterTCN]

The Wire is a lot better, belboid's suggestion of Deadwood is another series that is better than BB.

Right.

That's enough.

Bugger.

Off.

 

[D'wards]

Right.

That's enough.

Bugger.

Off.

Yeah, you negative vibe merchants start a "I think its cool to dislike popular things" thread and leave us to our BB-love in

 

[girasol]

I really liked the newsroom stuff, certainly it was far far better done than in The Newsroom. The basics were all down right, from the boringness of most of a days (honest) work, to how they'll cover for crap and make stuff up for good copy. Twas great, gave it a real, y'know Dickensian aspect.

And there isnt really any BB 'hate' - just a couple of people who (wrongly) say this series isn't as good as other ones.

there's no 'right' or 'wrong', it"s not science or maths... and people have different tastes. shocking

 

[Orang Utan]

Maybe people are just being honest rather than self-consciously hip? Occam's Razor n that. Who would be dishonest about what they preferred?

 

[DexterTCN]

Haven't seen The Sopranos, only seen one series of The Wire.

I wouldn't dream of going into a thread about either of them just to say something else is better though.

 

[J Ed]

LOL

 

[magneze]

Season 5 of the Wire was great, and, unless you're only interested in the wizzbang, ooooooh drugs, aspect of BB, this last season has been great too. Great character development, great climax building sequences and tension. All it needs now is a good ending...

Believable newsroom or not, the series 5 plot stretched credibility too far.

 

[zenie]

Tried to watch the latest episode twice and fallen asleep both times.

 

[D'wards]

Who would be dishonest about what they preferred?

 

[xslavearcx]

seee this is making me want to start hating on the wire, a show i totally loved. but since BB is getting dissed now i gotta say this. The only thing that makes the wire allegedly head above the rest is its exposure of the workings of various aspects of the city of baltimore. yeah it addresses shit like gentrification and thats all cool yadda yadda. But at the end of the day its sucess in that is its failing because at the end of the day, IMVHO this is where it is the scope of non-fiction to deal in. i mean at the end of the day what substance is there really in the wire? That bad shit happens, that there is gentrification, that there is dodgy interests at play to the detriment of what is in the public interest but what specifically does one really learn that can't be learnt to a far greater degree than an efffin textbook on the matter? If i want to learn about how capital fucks with the city i read some david harvey, i dont watch a fictional telly programme about that.

so yeah fuck all ya haters. BB is where it is at...

 

[Fez909]

seee this is making me want to start hating on the wire, a show i totally loved. but since BB is getting dissed now i gotta say this. The only thing that makes the wire allegedly head above the rest is its exposure of the workings of various aspects of the city of baltimore. yeah it addresses shit like gentrification and thats all cool yadda yadda. But at the end of the day its sucess in that is its failing because at the end of the day, IMVHO this is where it is the scope of non-fiction to deal in. i mean at the end of the day what substance is there really in the wire? That bad shit happens, that there is gentrification, that there is dodgy interests at play to the detriment of what is in the public interest but what specifically does one really learn that can't be learnt to a far greater degree than an efffin textbook on the matter? If i want to learn about how capital fucks with the city i read some david harvey, i dont watch a fictional telly programme about that.

so yeah fuck all ya haters. BB is where it is at...

Aside from all you've mentioned, did you not find the Wire had an entertaining plot? That it made you laugh, made you sad, had you on the edge of your seat?

 

[Orang Utan]

Who are they?
I bet you they dress that way cos they like it though.
You just don't understand why anyone would deviate from your view, so they must be pretending. Piffle.

 

[xslavearcx]

Aside from all you've mentioned, did you not find the Wire had an entertaining plot? That it made you laugh, made you sad, had you on the edge of your seat?

sure it did. but was it as entertaining as Breaking Bad? Hell no...

ETA - i do love the wire, and my post above is kinda joking as well, but my persnal fav is BB

 

[D'wards]

Funnily enough, Frank Skinner on his radio show this morning said "the most negative person in the room has the most power" and I sort of know what he means.

Anyway, you are taking my point a bit too seriously, it was a lighthearted jibe.

Although I do think if there's something as proven great as BB why accentuate the negative - there's only 4 eps left, go with it, you'll be happier as a result

 

[Dan U]

Deadwood is a great series but it is unfinished and is likely to remain so. I struggle to see how an incomplete piece of work can be better than this.

It built towards an climatic last season and they fucked up the options on the actors and lost key people. Real Shame.

 

[Jon-of-arc]

seee this is making me want to start hating on the wire, a show i totally loved. but since BB is getting dissed now i gotta say this. The only thing that makes the wire allegedly head above the rest is its exposure of the workings of various aspects of the city of baltimore. yeah it addresses shit like gentrification and thats all cool yadda yadda. But at the end of the day its sucess in that is its failing because at the end of the day, IMVHO this is where it is the scope of non-fiction to deal in. i mean at the end of the day what substance is there really in the wire? That bad shit happens, that there is gentrification, that there is dodgy interests at play to the detriment of what is in the public interest but what specifically does one really learn that can't be learnt to a far greater degree than an efffin textbook on the matter? If i want to learn about how capital fucks with the city i read some david harvey, i dont watch a fictional telly programme about that.

so yeah fuck all ya haters. BB is where it is at...

I love breaking bad. I love the wire. I personally think the wire is the better of the two, and I could go on at length about why. But frankly, it's a ridiculous way to frame your enjoyment of either show. The comparison only arises because they are both noted highlights of the current wave of high quality, boundary pushing US dramas. That's where the similarities end. They tell completely different stories, in completely different ways. The Wire had its grand intentions to deal with big themes, it's purposely hard to follow, slow story lines, it's huge enemble cast attempting to depict all levels of city life, from the streets to the mayors office. Breaking bad is a piece of populist drama, tightly plotted, only a couple of main characters, looking to tell you an unlikely but highly amusing and exciting story, with no "message" or aim other than to entertain.

So why do people feel the need to compare them?

 

[gosub]

Tbh I didn't find the wire that funny

 

[Yata]

theyre both good shows, just that BB gets put up next to the wire shows how good it is. neither one needs to be better than the other
tbh.
im just wondering what im gonna watch next cause its nothing but shyt on HBO at min and walking dead is kinda sacrificing itself to keep certain "fan favourite" characters in. this is the only thing that worrys me about AMC they seem to be scared to off characters because theyre worried fans will be annoyed. normal reedus, the governor and jesse have all overstayed their welcome a bit imo, maybe walt could have Heisenberged up a lot sooner if he didnt have this emotional attachment in Jesse the whole time. i always thought that Gus killing jesse would have kinda mirrored don eladio killing his partner and sent walt down a similar path.

 

[Orang Utan]

Tbh I didn't find the wire that funny

Not even the duck with the necklace?
Or McNulty in the whorehouse?
Or Polk trying to fall down the stairs?
Or Omar's court appearance with his tie?

 

[Jon-of-arc]

Or cheese saying to prop joe "They had this one bitch pulling pistols out her pussy and everything. That shit was unseemly, Unc!"

 

[Fez909]

Or "sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit"

Or the scene were McNulty and Bunk solve a crime by only uttering "fuck" and gesturing.

Or many other scenes that I've forgotten about.

The Wire made me proper laugh out loud because the comedic scenes were so rare and well done that the contrast with the unrelenting grimness was shocking. In a good way of course.

 

[girasol]

I love breaking bad. I love the wire. I personally think the wire is the better of the two, and I could go on at length about why. But frankly, it's a ridiculous way to frame your enjoyment of either show. The comparison only arises because they are both noted highlights of the current wave of high quality, boundary pushing US dramas. That's where the similarities end. They tell completely different stories, in completely different ways. The Wire had its grand intentions to deal with big themes, it's purposely hard to follow, slow story lines, it's huge enemble cast attempting to depict all levels of city life, from the streets to the mayors office. Breaking bad is a piece of populist drama, tightly plotted, only a couple of main characters, looking to tell you an unlikely but highly amusing and exciting story, with no "message" or aim other than to entertain.

So why do people feel the need to compare them?

You answered your own question... And the Sopranos were also mentioned. It's just something to do, people are forever comparing things, we like to seek patterns and order the world around us. It's human nature.

"sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet" I'd forgotten about that. Best catchphrase ever!

 

[Orang Utan]

Father Ted is better than Newsnight

 

[DexterTCN]

"sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet" I'd forgotten about that. Best catchphrase ever!

pfft

Magnets, bitch!

I'm the one who knocks.

What's my name?

A robot?