joustmaster
offcumdun
different types of spoilers isn't it.
Breaking Bad (CONTAINS SPOILERS)
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madamv
Oi! With the poodle already
There you are joustmaster, I am a plank anyway. Dont listen to me, I know not of which I speak.
I still reckon she's a gonner
joustmaster
offcumdun
I think the shooiting of the kid might distance Jessie from the group, and push Walt further in to the roll of scarface.
I wonder how mike will take it?
I wonder how mike will take it?
Ted Striker
Foot's on the other hand
If Walt's got 'swimming pools' of methlamine (and if he gets similar quantities of everything else)...Well Mike's a bit of a lone ranger, and no longer of use - wouldn't be surprised if he goes towards the latter part of the series which could enable Walt's power struggle further.
Ranbay
The same rules apply
He still needs him to sell it all, Jessie cant shift that much.
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Walt's interested in Lydia. She tried to off Mike and knows the names of the all the guys Mike is paying off to keep schtum. He sees her as a useful ally.
As for Todd, you know Jesse is going to be appalled but Walt might see him as the man to kill Mike and replace as VP Distribution & Logistics in Heisenberg Inc. - after Mike has to dispose of the kid's body of course.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
I'm looking at there being a power struggle for Tod's services.
Tod admires the brains of Jesse and Heisenberg but he is cast in the mould of Mike (long term criminal ,we don't leave witnesses, bam, without a thought).
Except....
Remember Walt saying "No one knows, Got that... no one". Walt was saying keep your trap shut but Tod's interpretation was no witnesses.
Which shows how seriously he takes orders from Walt. He has previously acted like woah these guys are gods of the criminal world and so obviously wants to impress.
Tod admires the brains of Jesse and Heisenberg but he is cast in the mould of Mike (long term criminal ,we don't leave witnesses, bam, without a thought).
Except....
Remember Walt saying "No one knows, Got that... no one". Walt was saying keep your trap shut but Tod's interpretation was no witnesses.
Which shows how seriously he takes orders from Walt. He has previously acted like woah these guys are gods of the criminal world and so obviously wants to impress.
Ted Striker
Foot's on the other hand
That scene was weird...Like SURELY TODD YOU'VE SEEN CRIME FILLUMS ON TELLY AND KNOW THIS MEANS YOU'LL BE CAPPED TOO?
Just LOVED the way they added his baby cam warning thing in the earlier episode...so simple yet reminds you nothing is accidental in the script
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
hmmm I think tod might be a plant... from the FBI...
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
I can't see mike hiring a guy who when told not to talk under any circumstances to the dons would allow him to talk to the dons after being so specific... no good deed and all that...
joustmaster
offcumdun
I don't think they'd have an FBI agent shooting a child just to bust some drugs.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
cos no undercover ever gone rogue...
joustmaster
offcumdun
I meant "I don't think the show writers would", rather than "I don't think the Feds would"
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
What was Mike's exact quote? Didn't he also say you do what they say and Todd might have interpreted the "no one knows" line a little too accurately.
Garfield could be right about him being a plant but from whom? Maybe Saul is fed up with Walt, Mike and Jesse. The only other person in on the heist, the truck driver, was also one of Saul's contacts. Not saying that Saul will be there at the end but he might try and up the ante.
joustmaster
offcumdun
I'd quite like Saul to have some sort of secret plan.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
cept the half arse tagged barrels might have been a way to force them into exposing themselves to greater risk etc... you know like burning the food store to flush them into the open...
BigTom
Well-Known Member
I've been wondering if Walt might sacrifice Jesse to Hank at some point this season actually..
And I had Todd marked as a dead man after he spoke to Walt having been told not to do so under any circumstances - but I'm wondering whether Walt was actually impressed that he'd seen the nanny cam and used his initiative rightly to break the rule that had been set, hence getting him to come along on the heist.
Was the truck driver supplied by Saul? Was he one of the other pest company people? I didn't recognise him, but I'm not that good with faces..
And I had Todd marked as a dead man after he spoke to Walt having been told not to do so under any circumstances - but I'm wondering whether Walt was actually impressed that he'd seen the nanny cam and used his initiative rightly to break the rule that had been set, hence getting him to come along on the heist.
Was the truck driver supplied by Saul? Was he one of the other pest company people? I didn't recognise him, but I'm not that good with faces..
joustmaster
offcumdun
As this series is split in half, I guess we will get some sort of cliffhanger in episode 8. Maybe Hank will see Walt do something?
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Yeah he helped negotiate the deal for the car wash and iirc was also there at Beineke's house. he's part of Saul's so-called A-Team.
Thought it was therefore appropriate that he was involved in the heist. Maybe that's just the writers having a laugh and there is no other consequence of him being cast in the heist scene. On the other hand surely Mike knows loads of people who could get hold of a truck and stall it on a railroad track.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
I'm thinking that if Walt the way he thinks is paying for Mikes men that to keep quite he might just pay the same as he is to keep Mike quite from jail...
thus removing the threat of immediate execution and also allowing him to take over running things, rather than him having to go up against him all the time.
Jessie is clearly the brains behind the operation now and has learned well from Walt...
As the retribution theme is still strong and this is Gillians signature, I'm wondering if the old Buddist Dhama of if you meet your master on the road you should kill him is being played out... cos presumably at some point Jessie will go off the rails again...
he's been trying so hard to do the right things and have no more blood on his hands which still bothers him and yet he can't escape it no matter what he does...
sooner or later he's going to ask the question because of who?
Ted Striker
Foot's on the other hand
That's the bit that pissed me off the most I think in the last ep...FFS "Well would you look at that...there's a truck randomly stuck in the middle of the track, lets go out and help him, NOTHING suspicious about that"
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
....and in a communications dead zone. How the hell did Lydia know that anyway?
Ted Striker
Foot's on the other hand
Most of the series have been cat n mouse games (Walt vs Skylar/Mexicans/Gus)...Surely Hank is the ultimate/next 'vs' person?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
because she has to track the companies shipments, and they'd all be tagged so you could always see exactly where they were - unless is in a dead zone.
Stunningly good episode. I was thinking that Tod was going to end up being their downfall, one way or the other, but after that....no chance. I didnt think before that Walt could be so mad/egotistical as to think they could get away with working without Mike, but with a cold-hearted bastard like Tod around, maybe he could be mad enough.
And Hank'll work it out before the end of this half-series, its all getting way too obvious
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