Breaking Bad (CONTAINS SPOILERS)
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I almost signed up just so I could say that in the comments!Have they even watched any of it?
He's not sure if Jesse is dead or not. So he has no idea why Andrea was killed?
He doesn't seem to know that the M60 scene was a flash forward.
TV critic too lazy to watch TV. Nice work if you can get it.
joustmaster
offcumdun
its always a worry when something is hyped this much.. I am not sure if any ending will be good enough for some people.
Gilligan has said that an ending which pleased everyone would be bland. They're aiming to please most people and think they have achieved that.
Reading between the lines the people they will not be trying to please are the Skyler-haters who thought Walt's rant on the phone was the truth and are bewildered by other people saying that he was putting on an act to save her.
No happy ending for Walt.
joustmaster
offcumdun
i just keep thinking about the end of Lost.
They've promised not to do anything like that!
We're 7/8 episodes in. We already know they've done a great job.
joustmaster
offcumdun
And Lost promised not to do anything like that too!
Lost was terrible long before the final episode though.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Lost was shit because it felt like they were just making it up as they went along. BB has always felt like it was heading towards something.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
I enjoyed this episode more than the others in this current run. The whole Walter has a problem/Walter solves problem/Jessie gets beaten repetition was staring to bore me.....this espisode was just Walter has a problem/Jessie gets beaten....so a little different.
that really irritates me for some reason. Well for these reasons:
– fe isn't blood, li isn't meth, and na isn't tears.
– when you put them together the word doesn't even makes sense. "felina"??
- oh but when you mix them up again it makes "finale" which is like foreign for "the end" so it is rilly clever.
it is just really tortuous.
Yes, it's not the cleverest thing in the world.
Iron is associated with blood, lithium can apparently be used to make meth, tears contain salt which is sodium chloride.
I agree that it is weak though. Lithium has never been mentioned as part of Walt's process.
Some theories think the salt is the fake ricin which Walt accidentally got mixed up with the real one but that seems really far-fetched given how meticulous he is.
Felina is Spanish for a female cat which suggests Lydia might be pivotal.
Todd was really dim reminding Skyler that she does have some useful information for the DEA after all.
I agree that it is weak though. Lithium has never been mentioned as part of Walt's process.
Some theories think the salt is the fake ricin which Walt accidentally got mixed up with the real one but that seems really far-fetched given how meticulous he is.
Felina is Spanish for a female cat which suggests Lydia might be pivotal.
Todd was really dim reminding Skyler that she does have some useful information for the DEA after all.
That was a good proper jump scene when she went in the room and they were there stood over her baby in the balaclavas... there haven't been many scares like that. It is good it still has the ability to surprise (and not just with lame plot twists).
Remus Harbank
Cake and whipped cream…
Todd is beyond dim. That's what makes this whole crescendo into evil so captivating. Start with a chemistry teacher’s middle class family, end with a neonazi redneck who calls all the shots in tandem with international corporations (represented by Lydia), who caused WW to start cooking in the first place via their health care arm.
Todd is like a Walt who started out evil --or who never had the chance to start out good.
I think that was the point of the scene where Uncle Jack said what everyone else was thinking --why carry on cooking meth when you've just scored $70 million?
Walt's hubris has caught up with him. I think Todd's will too.
girasol
Addicted to handstands!
I thought Todd was doing it for love, rather than greed. He seems to want to be loved. He's in love with Lydia? Maybe I just read too much into their scenes together. She's seemed totally oblivious to it, or maybe she knows but is just using him. I can't figure her out.
I wonder if they will go for obvious ending, Walt kills everyone, saves Jessie, gives him all the money, asks him to send some to his family, then gives himself up... We don't see it, but it's implied that he will die in prison.
I wonder if they will go for obvious ending, Walt kills everyone, saves Jessie, gives him all the money, asks him to send some to his family, then gives himself up... We don't see it, but it's implied that he will die in prison.
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exactly and so is walt.
He has a crush on Lydia --and Walt. But I'm thinking of the scene where Jack is going to shoot Jesse for ratting out Todd for Drew Sharp's murder. Todd wants to keep Jesse alive to cook and Jack asks him why he would want to cook when they have millions of dollars and Todd asks him if you could make all that money, why would you stop? It mirrors the scene where Mike and Jesse want to sell the methylamine for $15 million and Walt insists that they keep it to cook with to make twenty times more.
I don't think Walt will save Jesse. He changed his mind about handing himself in when he discovered that the blue meth was still out there. Just as he changed his mind about not cooking any more when Jesse started cooking for Gus. No one steals Walt's empire and gets away with it!
I think he will end up in prison too. It is the one thing he does not want and I don't think Gilligan will give Walt much of what he wants.
I think his family might end up being financially secure by turning state's evidence and getting witness protection. It's sort of what Walt wanted.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Not really. To grass Lydia up, Skyler would have to put herself in the frame as a willing accomplice, and not someone forced to go along with Walts evil plans.
She only met Lydia once at the carwash when she came to ask Walt to start cooking again --and sent her away with a flea in her ear.
The DEA already know that she knew what Walt was up to.
Ted Striker
Foot's on the other hand
It feels like it was written backwards, especially from series 2 or 3 onwards.
One other potential plot hole...Why didn't Walt tell Walt Jr he didn't kill Hank (especially when he's screaming down the phone at him)? Probably just caught up in the moment of hearing his sons voice? A kind of self punishment where it would be a lie to infer he had nothing to do with it? but it would be important to ensure my son didn't think I was a family member murderer! Hopefully Walt Jr doesn't fuck Walt Snr up!
girasol
Addicted to handstands!
Lots of endings here, this one matches the title of the last episode
The final episode is called Felina, alluding possibly to one of the many cat-faced women who litter popular culture (Professor Felina Ivy from Pokémon, for instance, or Felina Furr, the real name of DC comic's anthropomorphic heroine Alley-Kat-Abra). Does this suggest that one of Breaking Bad's few compelling women characters, Lydia Rodarte-Quayle, will have a decisive role in the denouement? Let's hope. Here's an ending based on that premise. After 4, cut to: Jesse, sole survivor of the blast, in his subterranean cage wondering what the noise was. Walt arrives to survey the effects of his bomb and frees Jesse. Then the two men argue and fall to a lengthy fist fight with yawnsome Oedipal resonances. Lydia arrives to find the two men beaten, bloody and supine. Seizing the initiative, she, at gunpoint, puts the pair to work again cooking 96% pure meth for the lucrative Czech market. Or maybe Felina is just an anagram of Finale.
http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2013/sep/25/breaking-bad-12-ways-it-could-end
The final episode is called Felina, alluding possibly to one of the many cat-faced women who litter popular culture (Professor Felina Ivy from Pokémon, for instance, or Felina Furr, the real name of DC comic's anthropomorphic heroine Alley-Kat-Abra). Does this suggest that one of Breaking Bad's few compelling women characters, Lydia Rodarte-Quayle, will have a decisive role in the denouement? Let's hope. Here's an ending based on that premise. After 4, cut to: Jesse, sole survivor of the blast, in his subterranean cage wondering what the noise was. Walt arrives to survey the effects of his bomb and frees Jesse. Then the two men argue and fall to a lengthy fist fight with yawnsome Oedipal resonances. Lydia arrives to find the two men beaten, bloody and supine. Seizing the initiative, she, at gunpoint, puts the pair to work again cooking 96% pure meth for the lucrative Czech market. Or maybe Felina is just an anagram of Finale.
http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2013/sep/25/breaking-bad-12-ways-it-could-end
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
so how did she know who she was? If she was solely victim she either wouldn't know her at all, and/or wouldn't dare to send her away, flea or none. Telling them about Lydia puts her right back in the frame.
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
She's already right in the frame. The DEA have more or less said she'd better come up with something.
She noticed that Lydia's car was a rental. No one washes a rental car. She confronted Walt who told her that Lydia was trying to get him to cook again and that he'd said no. Then she went out to confront Lydia.
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