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Boracay Island, Philippines.

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Just got back from there (to big chunks of Snow :( ) and while I'd like to explore the Philippines more, this island holds little for me. The beaches are nice but the very poor level of development mean the beach for Kite Surfing could be cleaner and the main beach less like an Asian Blackpool.

There are better Islands in Thailand and Malaysia. Its cheap enough, food and taxi's are cheap enough but nothing like the price and standard of Thailand.

To my shock Philippino food is very hmmm, nice enough I suppose but the rest of the region is much better. Philippino's like far too much sugar in their savoury food. Get a cheese topped roll and you will be buying a cake :confused:

Still only place I know where a can of beer is less than a can of coke. :D
 
Aaaah. i live on Mindanao and Boracay is a place never goto (having been there of course). The Philippines as a whole are a place where people who are clearly foreign are set to be fleeced, sounds like a genralisation but I have been here on and off for 24 years now. It is what it is.

Boracay, while beautiful and very Westernish in terms of accomodations, no squatting on two bricks wth a bucket of water for a Comfort Room (lavarotory), it is crazily overpriced.

We have 7,107 islands here and some like Bohol are amazingly beautiful. In fact, pics I have posted of my home on Bluelight, in Gallery, show how beautriful even this war torn island can be.

"Nothing like Thailand price wise.": Actually just had 3 months up there and in Cambodia. Phiippines are about the cheapest on the Rim and most of the Mainland and that includes Cambodia. The average tuktuk in Cmbodia is 2 dollars within 5 klicks or so. Here, on Mindnao, the local equivalent, a trike, is 14 Pesos anywhere in the municipaily. 14 Pesos at the current dollar exchange is about 27 US Cents. Big difference.

Buses are more expensive here. Thailand and Cambodia are very inexpensive. For my wife and myself, from Pnohm Penh to Bangkok (changing in Poi Pet of course) it was 24 US and a great accomodation. That is almost 500 klicks. Here? 1400 Pesos roughly for the lower level accomodation of the two tiered quality wise bus system, for both of us to travel 300 klicks to Davao.

Food wise? Borracay is not the best place to sample. Might as well be Manila. Nothing truly local in almost all cases.

The staple here of course is boiled white rice, 3 times a day (thank G-D I have rice mills, ha!). We eat mostly fish although it is more expensive than any domestically produced meat due to demand. We are about 100 klicks in from the coast at Butuan, and 9 from a viullage in Suriagao del Sur and we can pay up to 500 Pesos for a 1 kilo lobster (why noone eats it).

A typical meal varies according to the tribe you are eating around. My wife's people are Visayans and we eat usually, aside from rice, amaplaya which is almost exactly like the Chinese bitter melon but very healthy. Often we have a bit of scrambled egg mixed in with it to take away soem of the bitterness.

For meat on those rare times wwe use it, we usually use Native Chicken (Chikens originated in SE Asia not far from here and a sign of locality in chickens are the babies from hatching have their parents colouring, no fluffy yellow critters), or Brahaman Cows. Cooked in viand (sauce), soy for the rice, and purified water. For dinner tonight we had Blue Prawns cooked with egg, breadcrumbs, garlic, ginger,red onion, and leek all made into fritters. Quite good.

The reason cheese is such a delicay here is that 95% of SE Asians cannot digest it as they lack the enzyme. Philippines has a slightly higher average at 90% unable to digest it.

I get mine at import stores in Davao or Cagayan del Oro.

The breads are almost always sweet. Just local taste.

Anyway, sounds like you had fun, mabuhay.
 
Cambodia is more expensive than Thailand.

Anyway its not just price I am talking about its value for money. What you get for the money you spend. Thailand will take some beating in that respect. Same for the food. I can eat anywhere in Thailand and have fantastic local food. I don't have to head up to a hill tribe to find it.
 
Have to differ with you there, per prices in BK, and it is only very recentlyt that prices in PP have jumped to what would hve beenb inconceivable there just 3 years ago (last visit prior to the one I just returned from). Some things have gained equilibrium, like salries for foreigners (if you can stomach the "new fee" for a work permit, 100 US per year when previously all one needed was their busines visa).

Many other stomach churning things have occurred as well but in almost every case prices are significantly lower, in my personal expereince, than BK....and to tjhink a tad bit nore on it, places like Aran which I also psent more than a few hours in this time as well going both ways.

Cannot say as much for anything more of other places in Thailand this time going but in the past, all around Cam was cheaper. Anyway, my take on it.


Value? Maybe but aqlot of is perception. A good example would be 93 and 86 Sts., the main drags by the Lake in PP...St 93 being the "Lake" actually. Allyou can eat is still easily found for 2 US and to my knowledge I have not seen anything close in BK since my first significant time there in 92/93. Transport, probablly said as much, is about the same locallly, but long dostance is VERY high in Thailand (nowhere as high as here though).

BUT...many say and I now can say i am committed to the idea, within 10 years, barring another coup in Cambodia (the Thai ones not battering its economy), in 10 years PP will be BK as it looks and feels today , save the gaudy styleof constuction that has replaced everything meaningful in PP.

Crap, even Russian Market got a "facelif" and for any that is pure travesty (I agree loving Art Deco).

Local food...This part is prmarily true as in PP you find Cambodians eating aside fromt heir fave snack, tiny snails, and rarely fried taratnula (more a rural fave), boiled white rice, sliced cucumbers, and either roasted chicken wings or sliced prok chop. That is about as far as "traditional" Khmer food goes these days.

To ilustrte t further....Had Pepper Crab, almost the national dish, right? Kampot is famous for it and some places in PP specialise in the traditional dish. It sold for 8 US barring the barang/farang tax at World Star, one of the cheapest plas on Monivong aside from th stalls.

So...I agree with that at least as far as PP goes.

In Battambang it is as cheap as it has ever been, and all places sampled onm #5 were the same, OUTSIDE of PP.

Always...Rachamim
 
Yeah, used it on my trip but that was not the jist. Overall is the idea. If you have been to PP within ther last say 3 years, you have seen the BK style prefac nonsense that passes for new construction, ther first buildings over 6 flooors, and even 6 used to be rare, ATMs, NAGA World, ALCEDA wire trasnfers, so much crap has caught up.

PP is used up as far as the "Off the Rails" type stuff goes. Laos is enjoying its time in the sun but with its Eradication Program it is not reallly half as opular as I see it, or saw the traffic heading up.

Cambodia still has things to do and see aside from PP surely. The Hill Tribes are amazing, if you can get over the US ordnance all over the area along with mines.

I always laugh at the "jaded travelers" but my negative feelings are sadness more than anything. I love Cambodia and prior to my last visit (3 months) had hoped to relocate there. Now? Not even an inkling, sadly.
 
Yeah, used it on my trip but that was not the jist. Overall is the idea. If you have been to PP within ther last say 3 years, you have seen the BK style prefac nonsense that passes for new construction, ther first buildings over 6 flooors, and even 6 used to be rare, ATMs, NAGA World, ALCEDA wire trasnfers, so much crap has caught up.

PP is used up as far as the "Off the Rails" type stuff goes. Laos is enjoying its time in the sun but with its Eradication Program it is not reallly half as opular as I see it, or saw the traffic heading up.

Cambodia still has things to do and see aside from PP surely. The Hill Tribes are amazing, if you can get over the US ordnance all over the area along with mines.

I always laugh at the "jaded travelers" but my negative feelings are sadness more than anything. I love Cambodia and prior to my last visit (3 months) had hoped to relocate there. Now? Not even an inkling, sadly.

I was in PP eight years ago, and back then it seemed a million years behind BK. Sorry to hear its caught up so fast. I'm heading to Laos this summer to catch the last part of unglobalized SE Asia. After that I suppose its North Korea, then nothing...
 
I was in PP eight years ago, and back then it seemed a million years behind BK. Sorry to hear its caught up so fast. I'm heading to Laos this summer to catch the last part of unglobalized SE Asia. After that I suppose its North Korea, then nothing...

NK is teh mind boggling experience - not cheap to do a trip, but worth every penny
 
Phil: Your post is 100% dead on. I thought of NK as well, especially with my many Cambodian entries and so forth as they are incredibly close allies and believe it could possibly hep in that area (entry). I wonder if you get a stamp when you take the DMZ tour out of Seoul? You do actually enter a meter or two after all...It would be great to have a stamp, it would make for incredible conversation,etc.

Funny, I always laughed at peope who only care about what their passport lookslike inside but NK after all, that would be a tiny bit of history I imagine.

Been to Laos many times, love it but it has also reportedly changed in just the last 18 months. My last time was a bit over 2 years ago. I go for purient reasons, that some already know about. My primary interest has always been, apart from anthropology, sampling the local "scene."

Laos was wide open and NEVER persecuted any Westerner or Israeli for anything short of smuggling. Even Immigration detention was ignored. Now it is quite different.

As for the scene, it is the only SE nation that has actually been successful in Eradication and in a huge way. Also stepped up enforcement against foreigner as said, and so on.

PP to just add a note or two more even has traffic lights all down Monivong and even more advanced than the States in this way with little clocks like Japan telling you how many seconds left until the light change. Donated I am sure and yet they lend a distinctly different feel.

As for the future, I am kind of blase about SE, although would like to hit up Mynammar again if they ever solve their nonsense in the capital. I do not expect the bush to change in my life time.

However, I have never been north of Mumbai, or east of Peshawar in the Western half of Asia and wish to do alot more there. Never even been to Nepal which is huge with Israelis. My wife wants Tibet but of course that will be no time soon. So, I will probably head that way sooner rather than later.


Next week I have NYC with a layover in HK which is a drag except I will be taking Airbuses which I have not been taking that much.
 
Phil: Your post is 100% dead on. I thought of NK as well, especially with my many Cambodian entries and so forth as they are incredibly close allies and believe it could possibly hep in that area (entry). I wonder if you get a stamp when you take the DMZ tour out of Seoul? You do actually enter a meter or two after all...It would be great to have a stamp, it would make for incredible conversation,etc.

Funny, I always laughed at peope who only care about what their passport lookslike inside but NK after all, that would be a tiny bit of history I imagine.

Been to Laos many times, love it but it has also reportedly changed in just the last 18 months. My last time was a bit over 2 years ago. I go for purient reasons, that some already know about. My primary interest has always been, apart from anthropology, sampling the local "scene."

Laos was wide open and NEVER persecuted any Westerner or Israeli for anything short of smuggling. Even Immigration detention was ignored. Now it is quite different.

That's what Cambodia was like eight years ago. Basically no law 'n' order whatsoever--they didn't even all drive on the same side of the road. I remember meeting the head of the Presidential bodyguard, who turned out to be a wild-eyed, knife-wielding ex-IRA man. I suppose those days are gone for good.

But Laos sounds like its still worth a trip. Like you I'd love to get into NK before it collapses. I suspect the "prurient reasons" for which you travel wouldn't apply there, but as you say it would be a unique historical experience. I'm very glad that I travelled in Eastern Europe before the wall came down, no-one will ever have that experience again.
 
Boracay, like so many other dream islands, has been ruined by the desire to get high spending tourists in. When I first went the only accomodation was beach huts, now there's sprawling hotels for suitcase toting Japs.

Still the beer is very cheap, expecially during happy hour, which lasts all day and night if you pub crawl it.

And Yapak beach is pure heaven.


The oddest thing about Boracay is that every fucker on the island, tourist & locals alike, wears t-shirts with Boracay written all over it :D
 
Well Phil, NK is a farmgate, meaning source but if there is any "scene" it sure would not be accessible to me, nor would I cherish the memories as they line me up for the firing squad.

Still would love to see the place.

S. Korea is a failure in that regard as well but at least no Minder sniffing around .

Funny thing, the worst drivers in Asia are still here, but Cambodians STILL drive on whatever side they wish, even in front of the cops who now all have used motorcycles handy.

E. Europe was ok but I HAD to go for family and for religious raons, not for tourism per se. Family in Trans-Diniester, and a shrine at Uman in the Ukraine. First went in the Glastnost Era.

Bahnhof: The weirdest thing to me is seeing people here worship the place like it is HIM come Down. They love it because they equate it with Westerners and as all who have been here know, anyone with light skin is like a ing, usually.

In using the domestic airport in Manila 2 weeks ago I was amzed at the number of foreign tourists heading there. It is not like one of the other 7,107 islands does not have greta beaches.

Is there a way to post pics here? I would love to post a few of the beach we usually go to here, it is in Surigao del Sur. It is Bandit country but we go in convoys and armed to the teeth (seriously).

The beach though? One of the prettiest I have ever seen anywhere. I also love the little village hugging the tarmac track around the inlet. Stunning really.
 
Just a not, trying to post pics and it says the site has a 19.5 kb limit per file and the pic , edited already, is 770 kb. Anyone have ideas?
 
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