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Blues in the 1920's

I love this stuff.
What is the rudest song recorded in this period that you know?
this goes slightly put of time period but Bo Carter's stuff is known for being rude (that actually got released at the time). it also manages to sounds really bleak and eery though
 
It is v difficult to try to play charley patton's stuff even though (maybe because?) it is pretty crude. you may well be familiar with this series of books, they are by far the best resource for getting an idea of what the players were doing on the guitar, stefan grossman actually learnt direct from a lot of them (or at least learnt direct from people who had learnt direct from them, in the case of charley patton): Delta Blues By Stefan Grossman | Used | 9780825602863 | World of Books

he is very careful to transcribe every single note/ghost note, so it often makes simple things look v complicated, but that is also the great thing about it. The volume on Texas Blues cover blind lemon jefferson, and Ragtime Blues covers blind blake and more blind lemon jefferson and a load of others.

A couple of years ago I thought I would learn Spoonful Blues as it's nice and simple. But no it isn't easy, the way the slide and the finger picking work together is not easy at all. Definitely will get that book.
 
I want to tour the Country section too... I need a country selection in my life, have high hopes on this early stuff
I think for that kind of stuff there's no better primer than Harry Smith's Anthology of American Folk Music box set on Folkways, which you should be able to find easily enough from the usual sources.
 
A couple of years ago I thought I would learn Spoonful Blues as it's nice and simple. But no it isn't easy, the way the slide and the finger picking work together is not easy at all. Definitely will get that book.
ohh if you haven't got it and are interested in this music then it is an essential buy! I got given the Rev Gary Davis volume when I was about 11 or 12, still learning stuff from it, it is so rich... it also includes photos showing how to form every weird chord shape, how he did it (using thumb etc). Great archive photos and interview snippets in it too. (good version of spoonful in that one too).
there are tapes/cds to go along with every volume too... not as important now with youtube etc, but at the time it was the only way to hear a lot of the tunes.
 
A couple of years ago I thought I would learn Spoonful Blues as it's nice and simple. But no it isn't easy, the way the slide and the finger picking work together is not easy at all. Definitely will get that book.
You might also like Frederic Ramsey Jr. jazz anthology too, the earlier volumes of which make very explicit the substantial crossover between early country, blues and jazz - I've got vol.1 on atm and it's great.20210806_123101.jpg
 
ohh if you haven't got it and are interested in this music then it is an essential buy! I got given the Rev Gary Davis volume when I was about 11 or 12, still learning stuff from it, it is so rich... it also includes photos showing how to form every weird chord shape, how he did it (using thumb etc). Great archive photos and interview snippets in it too. (good version of spoonful in that one too).
there are tapes/cds to go along with every volume too... not as important now with youtube etc, but at the time it was the only way to hear a lot of the tunes.

I'm aware that Gary Davis's music is real hand stretching stuff. Ouch
 
I'm aware that Gary Davis's music is real hand stretching stuff. Ouch
Yes it is not really suitable for a 11/12 year old hand ha. but even more than the technique it is the endless variations on a song he can do totally naturally, that is the mind blowing bit. TBh the main thing I took from his playing that I use in my own, though, is that it is cool to be a little bit out of tune ha. wrong era for this thread tho, I will hold back from posting!
 
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ohh wait I can't resist just one, imo this is the single best Gary Davis recording and I didn't know it was on youtube, it is a live concert and shows the full range of styles and it is from when he was still at the peak of his powers:
 
On Volume 2: The Blues now - there's a lot of material in the right timeframe on this...

This one from Nolan Welch has Louis Armstrong playing cornet on it :cool:

 
this song has Louis Armstrong's first ever recorded cornet solo (it is still instantly recognisable as him). It is mainly about the beautiful ensemble playing though:
 
this song has Louis Armstrong's first ever recorded cornet solo (it is still instantly recognisable as him). It is mainly about the beautiful ensemble playing though:

I give the hot 5s & 7s recordings a spin from time to time, they're magic all the way through.
 

theres loads of Louis Armstrong stuff on BBC radio at the moment - some really interesting bits
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though this might be the relevant one to the thread as blues selection louis
(havent listened to this one)
 
Charley Patton






This seems to anticipate metal. Just a guy touring plantations in Mississippi with an acoustic guitar. Don't worry if you can't get the lyrics, don't think he cared about that.

 
Just a fact, he had his throat cut at some stage so a lot of the later recordings don't have the vocal strength he relied on, can't tell on these though so I think we're alright.
 
I think this was recorded in the '30s but interestingly he'd figured it out in 1910s. Jelly Roll Morton, The Crave. He grew up in New Orleans so would have been contempories with Lonnie Johnson and Louis Armstrong. He learnt to get good by playing in the houses of ill repute. So kind of similar what to what you hear in the old Westerns in the saloons and so on.

 
Thing is these guys didn't have no second take, no editing. It was easy because they lived it all day every day.

No TV or Internet then.
 
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