Big Brother 6 - The Official Thread

[Melinda]

nope i just hate fucking eleitist wanker goth types who think they are infanatly more superiour than other people just beacuse they define themselves by being anti certain types of culture which are popular not because they particarly dislike the cultural icon but because they are just fashionable haters....

to me it's just another fucking fashion victim...

as vaccious and devoid of opinion and an only provide definition to themselve by the things that they hate with in that culture (so essentially they are just as bad as fan boys of that culture but pretend they oblivious too)

I actually agree. And you were very eleoquent in defence of your position. I find myself embarrassed when I have to defend my self at work for watching this show.

That Jasoon one is still baiting you though! Are you going to let him get away with that? [/being Makosi]
O/T Wasnt there an Aussie actor who starred on Baywatch with a few too many vowels in his Jason?

 

[mrskp]

Good winner.

I'm exhausted.

nn

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

wow, another intellectual in-depth response. Are you counting down til next year Garf?

hmmm tell me why do you define yourself byu cultural icons you hate... aren't you jsut as bad as those who define themselves by cultural icons they like...

see thing is that at least those who define themselves by cultural icons they like are honest about it rather than ones who define but oes they hate are just being fucking bullshitters ... you have to absorb be touched be tainted by the culture to understand it to know it enough to hate it... unless you're just an ignorant kneejerk monkey who just throws feaces at things they don't understand... so which are you a moneky? or a sad ack pretend hater... either way your opinion is worth fuck all, and you are just posting here to hear he sound of your own voice... hollow vessels r u...

 

[DJ Squelch]

Didn't think that much of this years series. Not the worst but certainly not the best. All the tasks this year seemed boring and there was no real twist like the secret bedsit last year or Kameron going to SA BB the year before. The secret garden thing wasn't that big a deal as they always have a new housemate(s) coming in near the end.

At the end of the day......

 

[madzone]

nope i just hate fucking eleitist wanker goth types who think they are infanatly more superiour than other people just beacuse they define themselves by being anti certain types of culture which are popular not because they particarly dislike the cultural icon but because they are just fashionable haters....

to me it's just another fucking fashion victim...

as vaccious and devoid of opinion and an only provide definition to themselve by the things that they hate with in that culture (so essentially they are just as bad as fan boys of that culture but pretend they oblivious too)

This is getting scary. Where's garf?

 

[Melinda]

)
Maxwell, Science,Kinga
Them 3 did give the best value entertainment-wise (not that I would have wanted to be locked up in a house with any of them in real life though )

Oh wow! How wrong are you?!

My final group: Eugene, Makosi, Science, Craig or Derek- cant decide who entertained me most. Didnt like Craig or Makosi, but they were damn entertaining

Any of the above to have won over Anthony.

 

[kea]

What kind of show would you want to see next year? Ive actually enjoyed this one. It HAS been a totally desperate freakshow at times, but if the producers go back to having a more "stable" house, will people watch it?

i think that the thing the BB producers mis-judged this year was the degree to which fans wanted to mock the contestants. basically, people like contestants who are endearing - that can be in a myriad of ways, and has been in the past. the vast enthusiasm for eugene to me is a sign of that desire for an endearing character, which wasn't really fulfilled by anyone else this year.

the BB producers went for the 'EVIL BB' angle, motivated (imo) by the sheer number of wannabe desperate try-hards they are now getting in auditions. most vaguely reasonable people have been put off by previous years - it's become too big for itself, basically! so they're getting lots of people who are desperate to be famous and yet are desperately uninteresting and self-obsessed.
therefore the BB producers decided to go with the 'EVIL' thing in order to mock that desperation, to push them to the limit, in the expectation that viewers would find it amusing to laugh at what lengths people would go to and what crap they would subject themselves to. (box task?!)

however, i think that this misjudged the audience's interests. yes people like a certain degree of goodie/baddie. yes people like a certain degree of gossip, rule breaking, naughtiness, rebellion. yes people like to see Big Brother giving the housemates what-for.
BUT -
people didn't like the cynical atmosphere of this year's BB. the suspicion. the secret tasks, the 'who's a spy', the bitching, the 'nasty' BB ... basically people didn't like the BB producers' overly cynical treatment of their contestants. people wanted to see endearing traits in them - obviously everyone has different views on what that consists of and who is endearing, but most fans do seek and find endearing characteristics in someone or other. this year only eugene was in any way endearing. hence his massive popularity.

this year there was a massive degree of audience scepticism about anything that BB did. i really do think that the producers need to re-build this bond of trust between viewers and the producers if BB is to have a future.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

This is getting scary. Where's garf?

what i havent' slept propperly for about a week...

hee hee

this is me like i said an enigma even though people might consider me a some one they hate who is irrverent insignificant horific or genius sometimes you can't help agreeing sometimes... even when you don't want too...

's annoying isn't it...

 

[dynamicbaddog]

What was it that Sam said to Davina when she asked what she had been up to since leaving the house? Summat about internet porn sites ? -I did'nt quite catch it, anyone else hear it?

 

[warszawa]

I have no problem with what happened to Makosi. She thought she was so special and now she knows she's not (I think).

 

[warszawa]

wow, another intellectual in-depth response. Are you counting down til next year Garf?

Are you an intellectual? Go on, say something intelligent. I'll be waiting for five minutes.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

i have seen more intelligent comment from a weevel

 

[kea]

 

[Orangesanlemons]

Just got in, very happy with the result - disliked most of them but fuck it, rude not to make a bit of cash. I noticed that just before the final Anthony & Eugene's odds flipped again, bang on cue. Ha!

Anyone up for a separate "Urban vs bookies" thread next year? I've tipped via this thread so far, but I don't think many people took them up tbh - a more in-depth thread with simple a to b instructions (text alerts? 10% of profits to the server fund?) might be a fun way of spreading the wealth a bit. Genuine offer. You have to work really hard to lose money betting on BB.

So: apart from Sam's sulky pout and pirate outfit, Makosi's machinations, Roberto's accapella jukebox and Science's words of wisdom I've taken very little from this year's selection of dullards. I still love BB as a concept - and will until I lose my interest in people full stop - but they need to alter the audition process to weed out the wannabes with no motivation bar a desperate desire to be z-list enough to be papped outside Chinawhite.

Fuck it, it's all good. I'm taking six months off work now. Cheers y'buggers.

- edit - apols for the smugness of this post.

 

[Melinda]

Feeling strangely flat about the result actually. Disappointed almost.

Kea, Ive thought about you post and agreed with large chunks.

I think you are right and people generally want someone endearing to win. (But to my way of thinking they arent always the best housemate), however I also think people (me included) prefer a nasty BB production team rather than a benign one. We want to see how the characters react.

I liked what you said about the need for BB to rebuild a bond of trust with its audience.

The secret garden thing definitely makes your case about the humiliation of the "wannabees." Its cruel.

 

[kea]

re: what you say about 'we want to see how the characters react' - yes but it's got to be done within a certain framework. people like a naughty big brother, but not a bastard-nasty and cynical one. which is what we got this year.

 

[JFC]

though antony acted like a wanker when he won, and i wanted him to win ,now i am dissapointed that eugine did not win

 

[kea]

most people are keen to see their families. anthony didn't seem to give a shit where his family were, for all his bleating on about his grandmother.

 

[spiralx]

however, i think that this misjudged the audience's interests. yes people like a certain degree of goodie/baddie. yes people like a certain degree of gossip, rule breaking, naughtiness, rebellion. yes people like to see Big Brother giving the housemates what-for.
BUT -
people didn't like the cynical atmosphere of this year's BB. the suspicion. the secret tasks, the 'who's a spy', the bitching, the 'nasty' BB ... basically people didn't like the BB producers' overly cynical treatment of their contestants. people wanted to see endearing traits in them - obviously everyone has different views on what that consists of and who is endearing, but most fans do seek and find endearing characteristics in someone or other. this year only eugene was in any way endearing. hence his massive popularity.

Agreed, the two final housemates were the two consistently nicest people in there... which just goes to show the public still appreciates decency over bitching and manipulation.

 

[spiralx]

most people are keen to see their families. anthony didn't seem to give a shit where his family were, for all his bleating on about his grandmother.

Most of the contestants don't immediately see their family as soon as their interview is over! He's just won BB, I think a few minutes of victory celebrations isn't at all strange!

 

[BadlyDrawnGirl]

Makosi in third place. What a terrible shame for the selfish, evil, fascist cunt.

Mwahahahahahahahhhhhahaaaaahhhh!!!!!!

Bwahahahahhhhaaaaaaaaahhhhhhahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!

Neeeeaaaaagghahahahahahaaaaahhhahahahhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


All over now then...

 

[Melinda]

Makosi in third place. What a terrible shame for the selfish, evil, fascist cunt.

Mwahahahahahahahhhhhahaaaaahhhh!!!!!!

Bwahahahahhhhaaaaaaaaahhhhhhahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!

Neeeeaaaaagghahahahahahaaaaahhhahahahhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


All over now then...

I cant help it. I think your reaction is so OTT. I disagree with much of what Makosi did, but last night's finale has left me feeling flat. It spoilled the show for me. The crowd were always going to boo, but they also took their cue from Davina, who was so arsing unprofessional and nasty I cant find the words.
Disapointed in the winner- but fair enough he got the msot votes. But expected better from Davina. Especially after her piss weak interviews for everyone else. BADLY DONE!

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

I cant help it. I think your reaction is so OTT. I disagree with much of what Makosi did, but last night's finale has left me feeling flat. It spoilled the show for me. The crowd were always going to boo, but they also took their cue from Davina, who was so arsing unprofessional and nasty I cant find the words.
Disapointed in the winner- but fair enough he got the msot votes. But expected better from Davina. Especially after her piss weak interviews for everyone else. BADLY DONE!

what are you her pr agent or what...

or her apologist?


get over it the horse you backed lost, not only dd they lose but they lost because of their ill tempered behaveiour... get a fucking grip people are going to throw much worse at the tv bird you secretly (only not so) fancy in weeks to come her pr machice (you sure it isn't you) will either go down one of tow routes damage limitiation (ie the sun's lies cost me my big brother win...) or expose after expose (burchillesque i had four hundred thosand abortions and god i'm great!!!) ...

 

[Buddy Bradley]

Just got in, very happy with the result - disliked most of them but fuck it, rude not to make a bit of cash.

So how much did you make in total on the series this year, then?

 

[WasGeri]

Missed it last night, but got texted the result!

Very pleased that Anthony won, he deserved it for having to put up with the unwanted attentions of Craig.

But most of all pleased that Makosi didn't get her hands on the cash - although I dare say she will do pretty well out of the experience.

 

[HarrisonSlade]

nope i just hate fucking eleitist wanker goth types who think they are infanatly more superiour than other people just beacuse they define themselves by being anti certain types of culture which are popular not because they particarly dislike the cultural icon but because they are just fashionable haters....

to me it's just another fucking fashion victim...

as vaccious and devoid of opinion and an only provide definition to themselve by the things that they hate with in that culture (so essentially they are just as bad as fan boys of that culture but pretend they oblivious too)

Or maybes he just doesn't like the show. TO tell you the honest truth I think the show had become an absolute joke when the company "Endemol" decided that they were going to "get evil" and ply the "housemates" with booze and create atmospheres where they will either try and rip each others throats out or cop off. I really liked the idea of watching the mundane and self sufficient lives of people who were asked to live together with basic possesions. To take these people and fuck with their heads is not entertainment, it's a desperate and very dangerous shock tactic. Welcome to the vaccuous world of Dermott O Leary and Vernon Kay everybody.

I did watch it for the first time a couple of days ago however and was surprized to find that the only clips that Endemol could put together to show the most entertaining highspots of the day was the blokes all talking about beating the birds and the birds about beating the blokes in unsubtle whispers. Needless to say I missed it after that.

 

[Hellsbells]

I was so disappointed that Anthony won. I was really rooting for Eugene.
Oh well.....

Having said that, when each of those housemates left the BB house and did all their ridiculouus posing for the cameras and the crowd, I cringed so much and couldn't stand any of them, not even Eugene. They all just came across as so sickeninglly, desperately obsessed for the fame and attention. It all seemed very fake and over prepared.

 

[HarrisonSlade]

I was so disappointed that Anthony won. I was really rooting for Eugene.
Oh well.....

Having said that, when each of those housemates left the BB house and did all their ridiculouus posing for the cameras and the crowd, I cringed so much and couldn't stand any of them, not even Eugene. They all just came across as so sickeninglly, desperately obsessed for the fame and attention. It all seemed very fake and over prepared.

But that has been the case for the past three years though.

 

[Hellsbells]

But that has been the case for the past three years though.

No, it seemed far more so this year. I remember quite clearly previous housemates winning and just looking very naturally and geniunely happy and overwhelmed by the whole experience. Not having some pre-planned poses all worked out and some silly dance routine. When Anthony got on the floor and posed like he did on his entrance into the house, I felt like throwing things at the telly and shouting "Stop bloody loving yourself so much" It was just SO cringy.
And although I was expecting that kind of thing from most of the housemates, I did think Eugene would be a bit more natural. It just really bugged me.

 

[andy2002]

Makosi in third place. What a terrible shame for the selfish, evil, fascist cunt.

What a thoroughly cuntish, childish thing to say. It was a reality TV game show in which Makosi was a COMPETITOR. She said and did things to get what she hoped would be an advantage with the voters and I therefore fail to see that she's actually done anything wrong.

Channel 4 should be ashamed of the way in which they allowed her eviction to proceed last night with 200 people shouting abuse at her and fuckwit presenter McCall complicit in every bit of it. Makosi was clearly shell-shocked by the reaction she got but instead of doing anything to alleviate the situation McCall gave her the toughest post-eviction interview I've ever seen. Perhaps they could arrange a lynching for next year's 'uppity nigger'.