are electric scooters the new bicycles?
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cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Failed cyclists, not to be trusted.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
It's interesting how any new phenomenon seems to inevitably become a moral panic. I've seen it with Rubik cubes, hula hoops (not the salty potato snack), skateboards, mobile phones...you name it.
In fact, when the telephone first came into common use, it was regarded as the End Of Days, too. I imagine something similar happened when writing first came about.
In fact, when the telephone first came into common use, it was regarded as the End Of Days, too. I imagine something similar happened when writing first came about.
dylanredefined
Not a house elf a tiger
I ride one of the hire ones to pub occasionally. Fortunately they are turned off at night so I can't attempt to ride one back. I still think bicycles are a more dignified way to travel.
a_chap
When the world came apart, where were you?
Yes, but everything pisses off motorists though: pedestrians, cyclists, tractors, caravans, horses, traffic lights, road signs, speed limits, lane discipline and especially ... other motorists.
T & P
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Us motorcylists being the the exception, liked by everyone and always well behaved
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Yes, but everything pisses off cyclists though: pedestrians, motorists, tractors, caravans, horses, traffic lights, road signs, speed limits, lane discipline and especially ... other cyclists.
Athos
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That's not fair; they're not in the least bit bothered by red lights.
Athos
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Cyclists have always been morons, but at least they required the coordination of the four year old to actually cycle, whereas scooters... !
T & P
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It did amuse me that in one of the various threads discussing e-scooters there was widespread hostility from many cyclists towards any suggestion that they should have to share the bus lane with e-scooterists. You'd imagine there'd be some unpowered mode of transportation solidarity there, but no... 
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Cyclists don't like to share the roads with anybody more competent than themselves, which is everyone, hence cyclists not wanting to share the roads with anyone.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
It's a bad combination, like giving a child a crocodile for Christmas.
It's strange to think that it's really little more than a hundred years of believing that 'road-users' does not mean anybody using the road.
Though I suppose 'motorway' means what it says!
Though I suppose 'motorway' means what it says!
BigTom
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Was there? I don't remember that - seen it elsewhere though, there probably was someone here who thought that or my memory my be borked. Anyway, I think they should be in the cycle lanes and anyone who cycles who thinks otherwise is stupid, not just because e-scooters are way more similar to bikes (and especially e-bikes) than pedestrians or cars/vans/etc but because the more people we have using cycle lanes, the more we'll get of them.It did amuse me that in one of the various threads discussing e-scooters there was widespread hostility from many cyclists towards any suggestion that they should have to share the bus lane with e-scooterists. You'd imagine there'd be some unpowered mode of transportation solidarity there, but no...
Motorcyclists by statistics, pedestrians by hierarchy. Horse riders are up there too.
Elpenor
a clown’s heart and a mandolin
First time I’ve seen one round here - it whizzed past with two lads on at a fair lick, not bothering to stop at a red light 
- the green man had just started so I was about to start crossing 
One of the lads did say “look at his hair” which I decided to take as a compliment so the experience wasn’t totally negative.
I wouldn’t like to come off one of them at 30mph
- the green man had just started so I was about to start crossing One of the lads did say “look at his hair” which I decided to take as a compliment so the experience wasn’t totally negative.
I wouldn’t like to come off one of them at 30mph
I won't be taking part in this sort of thing though.
Elpenor
a clown’s heart and a mandolin
Must admit they don’t seem to fit with what you might call the core urban demographic
The lads I saw were probably on their way back from booking a post A levels holiday in Malia, perhaps the use of these scooters will reduce the number of moped accidents in the Med
The lads I saw were probably on their way back from booking a post A levels holiday in Malia, perhaps the use of these scooters will reduce the number of moped accidents in the Med
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
I feel that your OP is somewhat loaded.
Imagine a post along the lines of, that new poster [so and so] is almost as much of a dickhead as hash tag. But only almost.
hash tag
Books, not bombs
They have scant regards for the rules of the road like many cyclists. Because they move faster than cyclists, quite a bit faster in fact, they are much more dangerous.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Whereas car and van drivers, always follow the rules? Everyone drives at 20 in the 20 zones where you live do they? Yeah, thought not.
If you're doing a thread about scooters do a thread about scooters, and save the shitting on cyclists for the 1,800 shitting on cyclists threads already in circulation.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Llanelli: Man, 56, dies after falling from e-scooter
No other vehicles were involved and the man died at the scene, police say.
www.bbc.co.uk
That happened at 30mph.
I was all for them until one missed me by cms in Hackney and scared the shit out of me. Driver probably wasn't even fazed for a second. Fuck getting used to walking down the streets like that.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
Elpenor
a clown’s heart and a mandolin
Christ. I can see the attraction to some extent but there is zero protection if you take a tumble.Llanelli: Man, 56, dies after falling from e-scooter
No other vehicles were involved and the man died at the scene, police say.www.bbc.co.uk
That happened at 30mph.
I did wonder if one of the reasons the scooter today went through the red light was if it braked suddenly the riders would have gone flying.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
There is nothing wrong with the vehicles per se, it's just that there seems to be a certain percentage of them (that much like bicycles) are ridden by dickheads. While evolutionary principles will ultimately rid us of the dickheads, it's who take with them that there is an issue.
They need registering and there needs to be a basic test of skill before being allowed on, whilst we're at it this needs extending to cyclist but given their existing numbers I suspect there will be resistance.
We teach kids to swim at school we should be teaching them to ride bicycles in public safely as well as part of the curriculum. We really need to build more dedicated cycleways though so that pedestrians, cyclists and motorists are properly segregated and mix as little as possible.
They need registering and there needs to be a basic test of skill before being allowed on, whilst we're at it this needs extending to cyclist but given their existing numbers I suspect there will be resistance.
We teach kids to swim at school we should be teaching them to ride bicycles in public safely as well as part of the curriculum. We really need to build more dedicated cycleways though so that pedestrians, cyclists and motorists are properly segregated and mix as little as possible.
